Jess and Karli are back and excited to give you the episode you have been waiting for! Today the girls are giving you all of the nitty gritty details of Taylor's friendship/situationship/relationship with Matty Healy. How could a couple week fling turn into some of Taylor's most heartbreaking songs? Find out in today's episode a decade's worth of clues into how they got where they are today.

Watch Lauren Lipman’s Matty Healy Deep Dive on YouTube here. 

Next week we will dive all in to the music behind it all so make sure to hit that follow button wherever you are listening!

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