We go long on two very different “nepo baby” journeys: Zoë Kravitz—from Topanga Canyon rules to rock-star Miami, acting breakthroughs (Big Little Lies, The Batman), directing Blink Twice, YSL muse status, and that headline-friendly dating history—then pivot to Gracie Abrams—JJ’s daughter with a whisper-cutting pen, from SoundCloud to opening ERAS, writing “Us” with Taylor, and a moody-artist friend web that keeps the lore lore-ing. Expect fashion, friendship matrices, messy kitchens, edible confessions, and a surprisingly useful fire-safety tangent. Are they “nepo”? Sure. But the talent shows up on mic and on screen.

Chapter Timestamps

• 00:00 — 🎙️ Cold open + why Zoë & Gracie now
• 02:00 — 🧬 Zoë origin: Lenny, Lisa, Roxy Roker (icon!) 
• #294 Ep Nepo Babies Deep Dive
• 07:00 — 🌲 Topanga vs. 🐍 Rockstar Miami: two childhoods collide
• 12:00 — ⚠️ Eating disorder years + New York move, acting school
• 15:00 — 🎬 Indie starts → X-Men, Divergent
• 17:30 — 🌊 Big Little Lies breakout (we relive the theme song moment)
• 19:10 — 🦇 The Batman = cultural cementing
• 21:00 — 🎥 Director era: Blink Twice (née Pussy Island)
• 24:00 — 💄 YSL muse energy + “getting ready” vibe check
• 26:00 — 🫶 Inner circle: Taylor, Rihanna, Miley (and the snake story)
• 29:00 — 💘 Dating timeline speed-run (Penn, Drake, Fassbender, etc.)
• 37:00 — 💍 Paris wedding vibes → divorce → Channing arc (engaged ’23, split ’24) 
• #294 Ep Nepo Babies Deep Dive
• 44:00 — 🗞️ Mini “scandals”: Oscars caption, the resurfaced Jaden quote
• 49:00 — 📣 Ad Break (Macy’s Fall Guide) 
• #294 Ep Nepo Babies Deep Dive
• 52:00 — 🎼 Gracie origin: the journaler with a piano, LA → Barnard
• 56:30 — 😬 First shows + nerves, why the songs land
• 60:00 — 🎧 “I Miss You, I’m Sorry” becomes a thing
• 63:00 — 🫶 Sour tour → ERAS opener, Taylor collab “Us”
• 68:00 — 🔥 Fire blanket PSA (lol but actually helpful)
• 72:00 — 🕸️ The friend/love web: Olivia, Phoebe, Paul Mescal, etc. 
• #294 Ep Nepo Babies Deep Dive
• 85:00 — 🏁 Wrap + who we should deep-dive next

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🎙️ Episode Summary

Sisters catch-up (👗 wardrobe wars + ✈️ travel dread), Meta’s new auto-dubbing weirdness 🤯, Meghan’s jam saga 🍓, Ireland Baldwin’s love letter to Hilaria ❤️, Pamela + Liam—PR or passion? 👀, Kyle & Mauricio’s family vibes at Alexia’s wedding 💍, Kendall & Gigi’s Vogue cowgirl cover 🐎👒, Kate’s rapid un-blonding 💇‍♀️, Taylor’s understated ring price 💍💸, the wild Turkey height-reduction surgery trend 🦵, and a deep dive on The Cut’s “Forever 35 Face” facelift wave 🧖‍♀️.

⏱️ Chapter Timestamps

00:00 — Plunging necklines 👗, sister outfit politics, and setting the vibe

03:30 — Long-haul Hawaii flight fear 🌺: meds, meals, and economy survival

09:30 — Meta auto-dubbing our reels 🎥: mouths match, voices cloned

12:15 — Meghan’s jam: the refund that arrived… open 😳

16:00 — Ireland Baldwin’s glowing ode to Hilaria ❤️

21:00 — Pamela Anderson & Liam Neeson: PR stunt or real fling? 🔥

24:30 — WWHL night out + Maude Apatow memory lane 🍸

28:00 — Kyle & Mauricio walk Alexia down the aisle 💍👨‍👩‍👧

32:00 — Vogue cover: Kendall & Gigi’s ranch chic 🌾 vs. “too cool” debate

41:00 — Kate Middleton un-blondes back to brunette 💇‍♀️

45:30 — Taylor’s vintage-style ring 💍: why the $250k estimate makes sense

48:00 — Turkey’s height-reduction surgeries 🦵😬

53:00 — The Cut’s “Forever 35 Face”: facelifts at 35?! 🧖‍♀️

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Therapy can wait—pop culture can’t. Lauren and Chanler unpack With Love, Megan (why José Andrés is the missing co-host), the Pamela Anderson × Liam Neeson “PR bake-off,” why couple-prank TikToks feel like Dante’s 9th circle, a viral aesthetician chemical-peel horror story, Brittany Mahomes’ 30th with Taylor in Nashville vs. Selena’s Cabo bachelorette, and the latest Kris Jenner/Corey Gamble breakup rumblings. Tech gremlins struck mid-record…so we’re unlocking our joyous Taylor Swift × Travis Kelce engagement special (timeline, ring, and Ed Kelsey revelations). Vote in our Spotify poll for next deep dive!

Chapter Timestamps

00:00 — Therapist on hold; Lauren’s solo PR weekend & With Love, Megan ☕️

02:30 — Why the show needs a high-energy foil (enter José Andrés) ✨

05:00 — Pamela × Liam: PR stunt…or PR about a PR stunt? 🎬

14:00 — TikTok “I pranked my husband” couples = actual nightmare 📱

19:30 — The Beverly Hills chemical-peel disaster & safety PSA 🧪

24:10 — Brittany’s 30th: Taylor in Nashville vs. Selena’s Cabo trip 🎉

27:10 — Kris & Corey rumor mill, NDAs, and “payday” threats 💼

34:00 — Tech issues → unlocked: Taylor & Travis engagement special 💍

35:30 — Backyard proposal, timeline, and first reactions 🥂

38:00 — Chandler sees the engagement news mid–Q&A, Lauren in therapy 📱

41:00 — Group chat chaos: only two on FaceTime at first 🫠

43:30 — Champagne at 10 a.m.; heteronormative jokes & name-change debate 🍾

47:00 — Proposal vibe: private, cozy, not performative 🌳

50:00 — Engagement timeline decoded: why now ⏳

52:30 — Ed Kelsey’s viral quote: “She was getting antsy” 🗣️

55:00 — Reading the photos: backyard setting, candid feel 📸

58:00 — Headphone-crease Easter egg & Swiftie sleuthing 🔍

1:01:00 — Why Travis works: antidote to Taylor’s brooding-artist exes ❤️

1:04:00 — The ring: vintage aesthetic, Swift-coded style 💎

1:08:00 — Family lore: Swift & Kelsey group chat reactions 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦

1:11:00 — Wrapping the joy: Taylor’s new “domestic, happy” era 🌟

1:12:00 — Proposal vibes revisited: cozy backyard details 🌳

1:15:00 — Timing theories: career windows, 2-year milestone, tour break ⏰

1:18:00 — Ed Kelsey quote unpacked: Swiftie reactions 🗣️

1:22:00 — Close-reading leaked pics: candid vibes & headphone crease 📸

1:26:00 — Why Travis balances Taylor’s past loves ❤️

1:30:00 — Ring deep dive: cut, carat, vintage inspiration 💍

1:34:00 — Family group chat lore & reactions 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦

1:38:00 — Wrapping with joy: Taylor’s fairytale moment 🌟

1:41:00 — Engagement euphoria cool-down: what this means for her next era ✨

1:47:00 — Back to With Love, Meghan: struggle to fill content, “thank God for Taylor’s engagement” 🥂

1:48:00 — Brutal timing: teaser same day as New Heights pod + engagement on premiere 📺💔

1:49:00 — Not “Meghan-coded,” just bad luck; no Harry, only crew at finale 🎥

1:49:30 — Meghan × cameraman (glasses guy) = more chemistry than guests 😂👓

1:50:00 — Rosewater spray = rare fun sparkle ✨🌹 → sign-off: “Love you guys, see you Wednesday!”

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Gwyneth wipes her IG avatar and drops a cinematic “new chapter” reel—memoir incoming? We connect the dots, then dive into that Ben Affleck discourse (technically excellent… and reportedly livid). Next up: Burning Man déjà-dust, Zoë Kravitz’s very public summer (Harry Styles, Austin Butler), and the legendary “snake in Taylor’s bathroom” story. Serena Williams opens up about GLP-1s and a Ro partnership, we unpack the optics, and we parse those Wayfarer/Justin Baldoni court docs everyone’s calling a “smear campaign” against Blake Lively. Finally, RHOSLC’s chaotic trailer and a very cute 30th birthday recap. Buckle in. 

00:00 Intro & studio glow-up + brunette banter 💡💇‍♀️

04:00 Burning Man dust-storm PTSD & “art cars are… floats?” 🌪️🚐

15:00 Gwyneth’s IG wipe + collage reel: is it a book? 📖✨

19:00 Ben Affleck “livid” over bedroom chatter (Amy Odell tie-in) 😳☕️

25:00 Zoë x Harry (and Austin), hotness rankings, boyish vs. broad 🌶️💋

32:00 Taylor Swift snake story: bathroom demolition for a reptile 🐍🛁

36:00 Serena Williams on GLP-1s + Ro partnership: destigmatize or #ad? 💉🏅

39:00 Chandler turns 30: art, rings, and three massive bouquets 🎂🎁

43:00 Wayfarer/“smear” headlines vs. what the docs actually say ⚖️📄

47:00 RHOSLC trailer chaos: powdered wigs & pointed reads 🥶🍷

50:00 Meghan Markle chatter: rebrands, shade, and Sussex fatigue 👑📰

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From a brazen Food52 embezzlement to Meghan’s Netflix “first-look” spin, plus Margaret Qualley’s cringe moment, K-Fed’s tell-all, Leo’s eternal 32—and the nothing-burger “dark truth” about Pooky & Jet. 

00:00 🎧 — Cold open: today’s menu

01:00 🎂 — Chan turns 30 (homebody chic)

05:20 🍞 — Food52 scandal: Studio 52, luxe receipts, and “how did no one notice?” 

12:30 👑 — Meghan’s trailer vs. Taylor’s takeover (and why the vibes feel copy-paste S1) 

18:40 📺 — The jukebox-parlor music bit & what would actually make Meghan’s show pop 

23:10 📰 — Netflix “first-look” explained (not a fat renewal—here’s what it really means) 

27:20 🎤 — Margaret Qualley’s awkward answer about Taylor & Jack (tone tells all) 

31:00 📚 — K-Fed’s tell-all and Sam Asghari’s “professional father” crack 

35:10 💬 — Why “full-time dad” ≠ hero arc (context matters) 

36:30 🕺 — Leo “feels 32” (and the obvious joke) 

39:45 💑 — Pooky & Jet: the “dark truth” that wasn’t (performative ≠ sinister) 

45:00 🧳 — Lightning round: what show should the Sussexes actually make?

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Taylor Swift just hijacked the entire Pop Apologists docket — and Chanler & Lauren are living for it! From cryptic orange sparkles to a khaki skirt, a mint briefcase, and one very un-Swift-like F-bomb, the girls deep-dive every Easter egg, theory, and reveal surrounding TS12. Plus, a swoon-worthy GQ profile of Travis Kelce, the TikTok saga that broke their brains, and a dash of celeb vow renewal gossip to round it out.

Timestamps:

00:00 – 🎤 TS12 announcement reactions & New Heights teaser

07:00 – 🎶 Album sound rumors & producer lineup

15:00 – 📀 Release date theories & cover art leaks

20:00 – 🎧 Why Taylor choosing a podcast is a power move

25:00 – 🕵️‍♀️ Easter eggs that led to TS12

35:00 – 🎭 Album title debate: Life of a Showgirl

39:00 – 📋 Playlist clues & production style predictions

40:00 – 📰 Travis Kelce’s GQ profile & relationship insights

47:00 – 💪 Travis on Taylor’s work ethic & humility

53:00 – 🏈 Childhood, family values & shared backgrounds

57:00 – 💍 Nicola Peltz & Brooklyn Beckham vow renewal

59:00 – 🌀 “I Fell in Love with My Psychiatrist” TikTok deep dive

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Gwyneth Paltrow might be one of the most beautiful, hated, privileged, and mystifying celebrities alive—and this week, Chanler sits down with journalist and author Amy Odell to unpack it all. From Oscar meltdowns to Goop jade eggs and $200K necklaces, the girls dig into what makes Gwyneth so adored… and so triggering.

(00:00:00) 📚  Introduction to Gwyneth: The Biography by Amy Odell

(00:01:55) 👸 Why choose Gwyneth Paltrow for the next biography?

(00:05:20) 💎 Her Oscar win & the $200K necklace

(00:09:01) 🏡 The bubble of her bi-coastal, wealthy childhood

(00:11:47) 🎭 From dramatic roles to comedic flops

(00:17:55) 🔥 What Gwyneth represents and why she is a trigger to some

(00:24:36) 🧠 Goop work culture and employee drama

(00:29:39) 🛍️ The future of Goop and the Target line failure

(00:39:27) 🧾 Insights on the 220 people interviewed for the biography

(00:42:32) 🎬 Growing up in the shadow of Bruce Paltrow and Blythe Danner

(00:59:32) 💘 Gwyneth’s love interests throughout the years

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Lauren’s back from Italy and just in time — because Travis dropped a 13-photo grid hard launching Taylor that basically broke the internet. Chanler catches her up on every sparkly-filtered slide. The girls question if this could mean wedding bells? And the real reason so many brands chimed in on the comment section.

(00:00:00) ✈️ Postcards from Italy — Lauren’s friend-filled vacation and her texting boundaries abroad

 (00:06:28) 💑 Taylor & Travis Go Public — 13 photos, soft-launch culture, and the wholesome vibes of each pic

 (00:19:07) 📱 The Filter Debate — Sparkly edits, signature cameras, and why Taylor’s aesthetic never changes

 (00:20:20) 🏰 Chrishell & G Flip’s Third Wedding — Medieval theme, guest fatigue, and how to lose friends annually

 (00:23:48) 😬 Beckham Family Feud — Cursed Notes, Instagram blocks, awkward weddings, and very public shade

 (00:36:18) 🚤 Yacht Wars — $16M vs. billionaire-level $400M boats, and Sir Elton’s peacekeeping tour

 (00:44:05) 🔭 The Coldplay Kiss-Cam Scandal — Public makeouts, lawsuits, and the downfall of Astronomer

 (00:51:00) 🌿 Gwyneth’s Surprise Cameo — Her comedic timing, rumored $2M payout, and the copper-fit hustle

 (00:56:20) 🧼 Goop vs. Rhode — Hailey Bieber’s billion-dollar exit vs. Gwyneth’s grind

 (00:58:00) 📣 What’s Next — Matty Healy’s mom, Katy Perry, Sydney Sweeney and more coming in Friday’s Global Elite episode

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In this bonus episode, Chanler is joined by her husband Ben and their wedding planner, Laura from Love, Laura. We discuss what it actually takes to plan a wedding that feels intentional, elevated, and true to you. From walking away from their original venue to rethinking the wedding party altogether, this conversation goes deep on the emotional, logistical, and aesthetic realities of modern wedding planning — with expert advice from Laura herself.

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(00:00:00) 💍 Where to Start — the foundation of a great wedding and why your planner actually matters

(00:08:32) 🥂 Defining Your Style — avoiding trend traps, trusting your gut, and staying true to your vision

(00:16:40) 🎻 Making It Meaningful — how to create a ceremony that feels intimate, not performative

(00:22:13) 🪑 The Guest List Equation — setting boundaries, navigating family politics, and curating with intention

(00:28:48) 🧠 Avoiding the Spiral — decision fatigue, emotional overload, and how to reset when it gets too much

(00:37:05) 👗 Dress Wisdom — why it’s okay to change your mind, and how to find a look you actually feel good in

(00:43:41) 📸 Capturing the Moment — trusting your team, letting go of the shot list, and being present

(00:52:20) 💒 Final Advice — Laura’s golden rule, Ben’s hot take, and the one thing every bride should prioritize

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