This week, the ultimate chaos agent Jessi Ngatikaura joins Lauren and Chanler to talk about fame, friendship feuds, and what really goes down behind the scenes of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. From business blow-ups to relationship red flags, Jessi doesn’t hold back—and neither do your hosts. 💅

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(00:00:00) 🎥 Behind the Curtain — What Jessi didn’t expect when the show dropped, and how Utah reacted IRL.

(00:04:58) 💇‍♀️ Faith, Hair, and Fallout — Running a business in Utah County, balancing Mormon expectations, and bracing for public backlash.

(00:10:58) 📉 Jen & Zac’s Messy Arc — Church drama, text receipts, and one unexpected redemption arc.

(00:14:50) 💬 Taylor Frankie Paul: Icon or Chaos? — Jessi’s real-life friendship with Taylor, her thoughts on Dakota, and what we didn’t see on camera.

(00:18:30) 💥 Hairgate + Demigeddon — What really went down at Saints & Sinners, and why one healing session couldn’t fix the betrayal.

(00:26:00) 🧪 Layla, Miranda, and the Spicy Cast Additions — Who brought it, who played it safe, and what’s coming next.

(00:32:10) 🔄 Mormon Marriage + Glow-Ups — Jessi on her thyroid surgery, plastic surgery transparency, and the cultural double standards in Utah.

(00:38:40) 🔮 Swinging Culture + Mormon Complications — Upside-down pineapples, spiritual loopholes, and what the church says (or doesn’t) about ketamine.

(00:43:15) ⚔️ Mikayla vs. Whitney — Feuds, fractures, and where Jessi sees it all heading next season.

(00:46:40) 🧁 MomTok Constitution? — Breadwinners, Botox, and redefining Mormon motherhood on TikTok.

(00:50:05) 📣 Viewer DMs Save Lives — How Jessi caught a thyroid issue thanks to vigilant fans, and what her recovery journey looked like.

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Lauren and Chanler spiral through the chaos of quitting corporate life, the psychosis of mushroom pilots, and why Planet Bibi wants you to orgasm for an hour. They unpack Meghan and Harry’s long game (including a 2027 olive branch??), compare two wildly tone-deaf weddings, and read anonymous Hampton confessions that will make you think twice before trusting any Birkin. Plus: what Alex Cooper’s doc revealed, and how a TikTok account inspires Lauren.

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(00:00) 🧠 Chanler’s Meta exit, full-time freedom, and reclaiming her brain

(08:05) ✈️ Plane crash psychosis + how to boof your way out of a nosedive

(13:02) 🍄 Pilot on mushrooms and Lauren’s derealization trip in Mexico

(19:07) 💦 Planet Bibi's 25 orgasms + bedroom ergonomics exposed

(23:04) 🎧 Alex Cooper’s doc, her stalker coach, and becoming a one-woman media empire

(29:01) 🎙️ Meghan Markle ends her podcast (again) + Emma Grede keeps it real

(32:46) 👑 Meghan & Harry’s 2027 olive branch, royal family freeze-out, and Charles shade

(36:55) 💒 Blake’s plantation wedding backlash + Bezos & Lauren’s chaotic Venice plans

(41:01) 📱 Taylor and Blake’s texts ruled admissible—what are they hiding?

(44:46) 🏛️ Daily Dose Donna’s site visit + Blake’s wedding venue in question

(51:21) 💼 Hamptons club debt, fake Birkins, and financial denial in zip code 11937

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This one’s for the girls who grew up on TRL, cried to Fearless, and low-key still know all the words to “He Could Be the One.” Nora Princiotti joins Lauren and Chanler to talk about the evolution of authenticity in pop, Miley’s totally unfiltered bombshells, and whether Taylor Swift might be pulling off the greatest long game in music history.

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(00:00) 🎤 Introduction — Meet Nora Princiotti and the book that rewrites pop history: Hit Girls.

(04:58) 👩‍🎤 Authenticity in Pop — Ashlee Simpson, Avril Lavigne, and why being “real” became a trap.

(10:22) 🎧 Poptimism vs Rockism — What’s “real music” anyway? We dive into the early 2000s’ biggest culture war.

(19:00) 🌸 Interviewing Miley Cyrus — Nora’s interview with Miley, unfiltered stories, and emotional honesty from the popstar.

(26:00) 💿 Miley Album Recs — Where to start if you’ve only heard “Flowers” and “Party in the U.S.A.”

(36:10) 🎶 “Since U Been Gone” — The story behind Kelly Clarkson’s scream-your-heart-out hit and the pop comeback no one saw coming.

(43:56) 🪩 Taylor Swift — The rerecords, the rage, and her business plays... Did she devalue her own masters on purpose?

(47:58) 👑 Brat Summer & Cowboy Carter — Cultural saturation, chart performance, and what we’re actually listening to.

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If you like chaos, congratulations, this episode is tailor-made for you. We’ve got major courtroom drama in the Blake Lively vs Justin Baldoni case, Taylor Swift blending into Travis Kelce’s family wedding, Meghan Markle twerking (?), and a manifestation debate no one asked for. Plus, the woo-woo polyamory breakdown that needs to be studied.

(00:00) 👩🏼‍⚖️ Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni - Court bombshells, conspiracy theories, and one very shady filing.

(12:59) 💍 Taylor Swift at Travis Kelce’s Family Wedding - We’re talking dresses, dancing, and… was that a Swiftie infiltration?

(19:46) 👑 Meghan Markle’s Hospital Dance Video - Is it cute or is it cringe? Discuss.

(26:13) 🌻 Hailey Bieber’s Therapeutic Summer - Instagram captions don’t lie. We decode.

(31:59) 🍼 Lauren Bostick Manifested Motherhood - What she said about fertility broke the internet. Let’s unpack.

(42:28) 🔥 Expanded Monogamy, Burning Man, and The Goddess Pipeline - Truly one of the craziest things we’ve ever covered. Brandy Melville models involved.

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Chanler’s back from the flight from hell—complete with zero legroom, tarmac heat, and a bralette breakdown. Lauren lands from St. Barth and immediately roasts the snack box struggle. The sisters debrief their Juicy Scoop appearance, dish on Brooklyn upgrades, and dive into the latest Karen Read courtroom twists. Then it’s The Valley's most overblown scandal (a pantry tequila swig??), Blake Lively’s legal backpedaling, Taylor Swift’s mini dress moment, and why Ubah’s fiancé might be the hottest man in Bravo history.

Timestamps:

[00:00] ✈️ Flight from Hell — Chanler barely survives United's final row with no AC, no food, and full claustrophobia. She strips. Literally.

[10:00] 🎤 Juicy Scoop & Jet Lag — Post-interview blackout and a proud sister moment over their Heather McDonald appearance.

[11:30] 🏡 Brooklyn Era Incoming — Chanler shares details on her dreamy new apartment: double square footage and heated bathroom floors.

[15:00] ⚖️ Karen Read Trial Gets Messier — FBI investigations, hostile witnesses, and a town with collective amnesia. It’s getting wild.

[20:00] 🍾 Pantrygate on The Valley — Did a secret tequila swig mean more? Janet stirs the pot hard and the girls call BS on the drinking drama.

[25:00] 💔 Jesse & Michelle Meltdown — Jesse’s verbal abuse, Michelle’s glow-up, and why divorce might’ve saved her personality.

[28:00] 🧾 Blake Lively's Legal Retreat — She’s trying to drop the emotional distress claim—but keep her options open? We see you, Blake.

[33:00] 🎭 Sutton Foster Steps Out (Silently) — Hugh Jackman’s girlfriend skips the press line while Deborra-Lee Furness drops spiritual shade.

[36:00] 👠 Taylor Swift at Monkey Bar — Black mini dress, diamond tennis bracelet, and... platform heels? The girls weigh in on the look.

[40:00] 👙 Bethenny’s Bikini Clapback — Bethenny hits the swimwear runway and defends her “cute tush.” The sisters are divided.

[45:00] 🩻 Kylie’s Boob Job Details — 450cc, moderate profile, under the muscle. Kylie finally shares her plastic surgery specs.

[50:00] 💍 Ubah Gets Her Man — Ubah Hassan’s new fiancé is hot, tall, and rich. Chanler is unwell. Jill Zarin thinks it’s divine intervention.

[55:00] 💔 Lauren Sanchez Grace Clause — Why does Sutton get heat but Lauren Sanchez gets worshipped? The girls make their case.

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This week, Lauren and Chanler are coming to you from full LA trip prep mode. From Beyoncé's celestial performance to Mormon Wives chaos, they're breaking down the biggest stories. Expect mystery, mom drama, reality TV breakdowns, and one very bold Vogue request.

• [00:00] 🎬 Packing, filming, and a camera setup saga—plus, why Chanler is unusually zen pre-LA

• [07:46] 🎤 Beyoncé’s LA concert: iconic cameos, wardrobe wins, and a soft launch for Jay-Z's redemption arc?

• [13:46] ⚖️ Karen Read trial deep dive: conspiracies, Facebook moms, and a possible swingers' night with a garage door guy

• [24:11] 🥃 Sandy Cohen, The OC, and an unforgettable party moment involving a very lost wristwatch

• [26:51] 📺 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: friendship fallouts, glam mom interventions, and shifting alliances on-screen

• [39:21] ✂️ Book deals, hair-related shade, and the moment the group chat energy shifted on camera

• [41:41] 🍼 Emotions run high with a pregnancy reveal and a redemption arc that hits surprisingly hard

• [47:11] 💍 Engagement rumors swirl as an NFL legend updates his yacht name and sparks internet theories

• [50:11] 👑 Meghan Markle’s alleged pitch to be on every Vogue cover—and what reportedly happened next

• [53:41] 🧾 Brittany Bateman’s legal drama heats up—featuring lawsuits, former friends, and court filings

• [56:51] 💸 Dakota Johnson talks rent struggles, career rejections, and what “making it” actually looked like

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Fresh off their Ballerina Farm pilgrimage, the girls are back—and chaos reigns. Lauren and Chanler unpack the alleged threat Blake Lively’s legal team made against Taylor Swift (yes, the one about exposing 10 years of private texts 😳). Then it’s a deep dive into the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: ketamine therapy, family betrayal, facelifts, and MomTok delusions. Plus, major developments in the Karen Read trial and Cassie Ventura’s devastating testimony in the Diddy case. You’re not ready. 👀

⏱️ Chapter Timestamps:

[00:00–01:00] 🐄 Back from Ballerina Farm: A recap of their visit to Utah with Courtney Grow

[01:00–13:00] 💔 Taylor vs. Blake: The alleged threat, the fallout, and the godmother betrayal

[13:00–16:00] 👀 Travis Kelsey unfollows Ryan, Reputation (TV) hints, and the AMAs theory

[16:00–44:00] 🎬 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S2: Taylor’s heartbreak, toxic parents, and ketamine therapy

[44:00–45:30] ✈️ PSA: Why Provo dating is a danger zone

[45:30–54:00] ⚖️ Karen Read trial update: Discredited expert testimony, taillight confusion, and police cover-up concerns

[54:00–55:30] 😠 Sgt. Yuri Bucha's shady performance on the stand

[55:30–01:02:00] 💣 Diddy trial: Cassie’s testimony, freak off allegations, and the breakdown of his decade-long abuse

[01:02:00–01:03:00] 🧠 Why this matters: justice for victims and Cassie’s stand

[01:03:00–01:04:00] 🎤 Outro: Upcoming content, love for the Global Elite, and farewell until Friday

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Lauren and Chanler’s dad, a family law attorney, returns to share legal wisdom on divorce, prenups, and child support, plus wild stories like chasing stolen goods. They reflect on their LDS upbringing, raising five daughters, and pursuing dreams at any age.

⏱️ Timestamps

[00:00–02:00] 🎙️ Dad’s Return

Listener love brings Dad back.

[02:00–04:00] 💕 Deb’s Friendship

Dad cherishes his 42-year marriage.

[04:00–09:00] 👧 Raising Daughters

Mom’s strictness, faith, and reading shaped success.

[09:00–10:00] ⚖️ Baby Names

Courts don’t block odd names.

[10:00–13:00] 💸 Income Lies

Fight ex’s fraud; ditch shady lawyers.

[13:00–17:00] 🕵️‍♂️ Attorney Choice

Pick specialists, trust gut, watch judges.

[17:00–19:00] 💳 Blocked Accounts

Lawyer up for support orders.

[19:00–21:00] 💼 Post-Divorce Work

Both spouses must work; skills matter.

[21:00–23:00] 😈 Bad Behavior

Affairs rarely affect no-fault divorce.

[23:00–27:00] 👨‍👧 Five Girls

Dad navigated hormones; Mom was strict.

[27:00–30:00] 💔 Divorce Tips

Seek faith, a friend; try saving marriage.

[30:00–33:00] 📈 Impulsive Divorces

More common, but kids suffer.

[33:00–38:00] ⚖️ Law Path

Started law at 30 with three kids.

[38:00–41:00] 🚀 Chase Dreams

Pursue goals at any age.

[41:00–44:00] 📝 Prenups

Fair prenups share future earnings.

[44:00–48:00] 🧗‍♀️ College Days

Lauren’s risky dates; sisters’ server jobs.

[48:00–50:00] 🦅 Daughters’ Paths

All chose bold careers, not law.

[50:00–52:00] 💡 New Careers

Nursing, paralegal, sales for reentry.

[52:00–57:00] 🚨 Wild Tales

Limo attorney; stolen goods chase.

[57:00–59:00] 💰 Greed’s Cost

Hidden assets don’t pay off.

[59:00–01:01:00] 🌟 No Status

Raised valuing love, not pedigree.

[01:01:00–End] 🎤 Sign-Off

Dad’s 25 followers get love.

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The girls are back from wedding bliss and diving headfirst into hot topics—from a possible Taylor Swift pregnancy to Diddy’s disturbing trial details. Chanler dishes on an unexpected urgent care visit, while Lauren unpacks blind items about Blake Lively’s rumored fallout with Taylor. They debate the Karen Read trial, analyze Meghan and Harry’s Beyoncé date night, and break down why a 24-year-old pageant queen is outsmarting all of us with $9 million in real estate. Drama, speculation, and Chanel denim slander—this episode has it all.

[00:00–03:00] 💊 Post-Wedding Urgent Care

Chanler reveals her rough post-honeymoon health scare and how “traveler’s issues” sent her to urgent care.

[03:00–05:00] 🌽 Mother’s Day & Corn Cob Shame

The girls reflect on a sweet Mother’s Day… until a corn-eating incident leaves Lauren humiliated.

[06:00–08:00] ⚖️ Should They Cover the Diddy Trial?

They discuss whether they should pivot into full-on legal podcasters and break down audience appetite for darkness.

[08:00–10:00] ☕ Taylor & Travis Reappear!

Taylor and Travis were spotted with both moms on Mother's Day, sparking pregnancy or engagement rumors.

[10:00–12:00] 👜 The Chanel 25 Bag Debate

Lauren critiques Taylor’s controversial denim Chanel bag and the brand’s identity crisis.

[12:00–15:00] 🤰 Engagement or Baby on the Way?

Speculation: is Taylor secretly pregnant—or just shopping hobo bags with bad posture?

[15:00–18:00] 💍 DeuxMoi’s Blind Hint + Pregnancy Test Panic

A DeuxMoi tease hints at an engagement, while Chanler has her own pregnancy test scare.

[19:00–21:00] 🧐 Karen Read Trial Talk Begins

The girls passionately defend Karen and wonder why the supposed “cover-up crew” seems so bad at covering up.

[21:00–27:00] 🧪 Karen Theories & Cocktail Glass Debate

In-depth theorizing: how did the glass stay intact? Why did no one text about the body? They’re confused and obsessed.

[29:00–32:00] 📣 Taylor Subpoenaed in Blake Lawsuit

Taylor’s fiery denial of involvement in “It Ends With Us” is dissected line by line.

[32:00–35:00] 🚫 Girl Gang Fallout: Blake is OUT

With Blake uninvited from Gigi’s party and Travis unfollowing Ryan, it looks like Taylor is officially over it.

[35:00–38:00] 🔥 Blind Item: Blake Tried to Seduce Justin?!

A wild blind claims Blake made a move on Justin… and Taylor may have spilled it to Brittany Mahomes.

[39:00–42:00] 🧨 Diddy Trial Breakdown (Warning: Graphic)

Shocking opening day testimony is covered, from assault to bribes to male escorts and control.

[43:00–45:00] 👑 Jordan Hudson’s Real Estate Empire

Bill Belichick’s 24-year-old girlfriend just bought $9M in condos. The girls are stunned and impressed.

[45:00–48:00] 🧠 The Psychology of Jordan Hudson

Is this 5D chess? They analyze the strategy and ROI behind her sugar baby-to-landlord pipeline.

[49:00–52:00] 🤠 Meghan & Harry at Cowboy Carter

They break down Meghan’s outfit, Harry’s hat, and why this photo dump hits different.

[52:00–55:00] 👑 The Royal Family’s PR Games

With no signs of reconciliation, the girls predict Harry and Meghan’s fading relevance as the next gen grows up.

[55:00–57:00] 💸 Brand Longevity Doubts for Meghan & Harry

Do they have enough “product” to support the lifestyle? Lauren goes full monologue.

[57:00–End] 🎤 Signing Off with Love

Back from the wedding and ready to spill all the tea, the girls close with love for the listeners and a reminder to subscribe for more!

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While Chanler is off honeymooning, Lauren is joined by one of her closest friends and the chicest blonde she knows — Elizabeth. The duo dive deep into royal chaos, from Meghan Markle's HRH mess to Prince William's fury, and break down the Walton Goggins and Amy Lou Wood drama. They also tackle the shocking story of a ring-copying sister-in-law, Jordan Hudson's PR reign over Bill Belichick, and a family feud brewing in the Beckham clan. Plus, a Capri travel segment with insider tips closes the show.

⏱️ Chapter Timestamps

00:00 – Meet Elizabeth 👯‍♀️

Chanler is on her honeymoon, so Lauren invites bestie Elizabeth to co-host. They chat Chandler’s gorgeous Prospect Park wedding and kick off a Capri-themed giveaway.

07:00 – The Ring Copy Heard Round the Family 💍

A listener dilemma: her future sister-in-law copies her exact engagement ring — then drags it on TikTok. The girls are scandalized.

11:00 – Meghan Markle Gossip Bombshell ☕

An anonymous source shares insider PR tea on Meghan’s fame strategy pre-Harry. Spoiler: it involves a deck of rich men at events.

13:00 – Meghan’s HRH Title Scandal 🔥

Lauren and Elizabeth dissect Meghan’s latest controversy — using her royal title on a jam gift basket featured in a public podcast.

19:00 – Did Meghan Break the Rules? 👑

They debate if Meghan’s HRH use was innocent or strategic. Cue a full breakdown of royal branding, commercial promotion, and royal hypocrisy.

26:00 – Prince William’s Fury 💢

New reports claim William is planning to formally strip Harry and Meghan’s HRH titles when he becomes king. The girls weigh in on whether it’s deserved.

30:00 – Security Drama & Harry’s Court Loss 🔐

Prince Harry loses a UK court appeal over taxpayer-funded protection. Lauren and Elizabeth discuss whether the royal family is putting him in danger.

37:00 – Walton Goggins & Amy Lou Wood 💔

The two get into the juicy behind-the-scenes fallout between White Lotus stars Walton and Amy. From Instagram clues to awkward interviews, they speculate on what went down.

42:00 – Jordan Hudson’s PR Reign Over Belichick 🧠💅

Is Bill Belichick’s 24-year-old girlfriend tanking his career? The answer is possibly yes — and the girls go in hard on the weird dynamic.

47:00 – The Beckhams Are Feuding 🥊

David Beckham turns 50 — and Brooklyn + Nicola skip the bash. What’s going on between the Beckhams and Nicola Peltz? And who is Romeo’s new (and recycled?) girlfriend?

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