Marriage is magical… but also occasionally maddening. In this episode, we welcome licensed marriage and family therapist Aly Bullock, to spill her wisdom on making love last long after the honeymoon.

💥 [00:02:10] We kick it off with the most-asked question about long-term relationships—and a fresh perspective you probably haven’t heard before.

💃 [00:04:50] “Non-toxic drama”? Yes, it’s a thing—and you might just be obsessed with the concept.

👀 [00:10:45] How something as simple as eye contact might be the most underrated intimacy move.

📱 [00:12:00] The couples app that’s transforming everyday connection—one tiny prompt at a time.

🥴 [00:17:15] Is it possible to be happy, healthy, and passionate in the long run? Let’s just say this part might challenge your assumptions.

💔 [00:24:15] What to do when you’re years in and still unsure if your partner is “the one.”

😬 [00:27:15] The art of addressing a partner’s weight gain—with honesty and compassion.

💅 [00:33:00] What to say when your partner’s new look has you questioning everything—including their haircut choices.

💵 [00:36:10] Money dynamics in relationships: how to handle shifts in income and power without blowing things up.

👶 [00:41:50] Kids change everything—here’s how to stay close when chaos enters the chat.

🔐 [00:48:50] Trust issues and betrayal: what healing really looks like, and how to know when it’s time to walk away.

👪 [00:55:10] In-law boundaries, decoded. (Yes, you can set them without sparking family feuds.)

Find Aly on social media at the handles @pairedapp and @relationshipswithaly where she shares relatable, actionable couples content and check out the show notes for 25% off a year membership to Paired premium to get her expert advice tailored specifically to you and your partner. http://www.paired.com/alypodcast

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[00:00–02:00] 🚀 Was this really a “medium news week”? The girls dive into the headline that sent them — literally — into orbit.

[02:00–06:00] 🌌 Katy Perry returns from space and says she’s “never felt more connected to love.” The commentary that follows? Unhinged perfection.

[13:00–17:00] 💇‍♀️ Dyson Airwrap: myth or miracle? Lauren enters her hair reform era, and Chanler has thoughts.

[24:00–29:00] 👠 Shoe size shame and celebrity foot gossip (yes, this is a real segment, and yes, it’s glorious).

[31:00–34:00] 💸 The $30 Stanley Cup that almost ended a wedding before it started.

[35:00–39:00] 🎭 A viral SNL sketch, bad teeth jokes, and a rumored celeb breakup — things get dicey.

[40:00–47:00] ⚖️ An unexpected twist in the Lively vs. Baldoni case, including a new voice on Team Justin.

[47:00–52:00] 👯‍♀️ The Kyle and Dorit friendship breakdown — are we watching the end in real time?

[52:00–57:00] 🎶 Morgan Wade, Wilder Days, and Real Housewives chemistry that’s way too on-the-nose.

[57:00–End (~01:01:00)] 🥂 A toast to long-lasting love — and Jennifer Tilley just living her fabulous life.

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Lauren and Chan chat about the countdown to Chan’s wedding and take a stroll down memory lane (0:47). They discuss the backlash over Blake Lively’s time at a donut shop (8:51), the White Lotus finale (15:03), Lauren’s suspicions about Taylor and Travis (30:18), Sydney Sweeney’s breakup + potential new romance (32:27), Meghan Markle’s new podcast “Confessions of a Female Founder” (37:42), Erin and Abe Lichy’s new podcast “Come Together” (43:59), and finally, their top picks for the Sephora sale (50:57). 

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Lauren and Chan are joined by Olivia Snow of Mother’s Daughter Design (@mothersdaughterdesign on Instagram) to chat about all things interior design. They dive into discussing their favorite celebrity homes, as well as a celebrity home that has them puzzled: 

Emma Chamberlain’s LA house (7:52), Gigi Hadid’s New York apartment (11:57) Emma Roberts’ LA house (15:25), Kendall Jenner’s LA house (21:14), and Gwyneth Paltrow’s Montecito house (26:41).

They also get to listener questions:

The best place areas to save money in a house that needs a lot of work? (40:07)

What styles are coming next? (43:47)

A designer’s thought’s on wallpaper?( 45:19)

Where to spend and where to save with furniture? (46:46)

What to look for in a rug? (48:17)

How do I not decorate like everyone on Instagram? (49:46)

What are the best friendly decorating tips? (52:45)

How do I find my own style? (54:52)

What lighting shade gives the coziest light in a home? (56:27)

What are inexpensive ways to update a bedroom or kitchen? (58:35)

How to handle your partner having very different interior style opinoins? (1:00:53)

What is trending now that people will regret in five years? (1:03:00)

What are online retailers that are really good quality for the price? (1:04:15)

When should you do use a designer for specific items?(1:07:20)

What are Olivia’s favorite paint colors to use? (1:10:33)

How to know when to use a decorator? (1:14:02)

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​​Lauren and Chan chat about whether there was any shade from Gwyneth toward Meghan Sussex as well as a continued plea to Meghan (15:30), Hannah Neeleman’s interview with Tatler magazine (22:48), Gisele Bündchen’s gorgeous life with Joaquim Valente (31:11), new realizations about Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively’s alarming parenting choices on the Deadpool & Wolverine set (36:04), all their thoughts on Season 3 of White Lotus (40:38), and finally, Bethenny Frankel’s recent interview on Skinny Confidential, plus their new favorite account on TikTok (52:05). 

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Lauren and Chan chat about Kim and Kanye’s latest battle (6:27), Meghan Markle’s new podcast (14:17) as well as her St. Patrick’s Day snafu (19:45), Taylor Swift’s latest easter eggs (26:34), and Donna Kelce’s surprising Instagram post (28:40). Lauren and Chan are then joined by the one and only Arielle Lorre to share the intense amount of work that goes into her career and two shocking personal stories that you have to hear to believe. Arielle mentions it all: Behind the scenes of building an influencer and podcast brand (35:37), Arielle’s favorite skincare products (47:04), Arielle’s catastrophic jet lag (48:13), and finally, Arielle’s botox nightmare (54:56)

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Lauren and Chan are chatting all about the latest celebrity and reality tv happenings. They dive into Blake Lively’s Another Simple Favor premiere at SXSW (4:24), Nick Viall’s reaction to Justin Baldoni on Juicy Scoop (8:33), the newest allegations about Justin Baldoni (11:06), Blake and Ryan wanting to protect their texts (16:59), Thomas Markle’s statements about With Love, Meghan (21:45), Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet’s recent tennis outing (29:27), updates on Jax Taylor and Brittany’s side about what prompted him to get help (31:13), Tamra Judge quitting RHOC (35:06), and finally, their take on The Baldwins (41:26). 

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Lauren and Chan are joined by Taylor Lorenz to discuss all things related to internet culture. They dive into the following: The Socialite Rank (3:32), the social media ecosystem (11:33), parasocial relationships (14:35),  aspirational content (20:18),  mommy bloggers (28:33), the birth of influencer marketing (33:04),  viral content shaping societal values (36:42), AI creators & digital clones (40:31), going from an influencer to being in the public eye with Meghan Markle (45:16), and finally, image curation and PR strategy with Gwyneth Paltrow (51:00). 

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Lauren and Chan are joined by Kate Kennedy from the Be There in Five podcast to chat about all the things living rent-free in their minds. They discuss Jenny Slate’s It Ends With Us HR complaint and why Justin Baldoni’s communication style may be the issue (2:32). They dive into Ballerina Farm and which publication Lauren thinks should be featuring Hannah (10:57). They take a moment on Nara Smith’s account and content strategy (13:40).  They loop back around to Blake and Justin to discuss the recent Hollywood Reporter article and SNL appearance (19:15).  They discuss their take on Blake and Taylor’s friendship in light of the lawsuits (33:33). They give their take on Meghan Markle’s upcoming ventures As Ever and With Love, Meghan (38:00). Finally, they give their complete thoughts on Pookie, and whether they buy what she and Jett are selling (52:44). 

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Lauren and Chan are so excited to bring you the first Pop Apologists Profile on the legend and icon Demi Moore. She’s had the kind of career that is truly one in a million, but the true story behind her life is a mix of triumph, resilience, and heartbreak. From childhood struggles to public relationships that made headlines, Demi’s journey has been anything but ordinary. Hear all about Demi’s tumultuous childhood (3:22), Demi’s shocking earliest relationships (18:55), her big break into acting (22:22), Demi meeting a hot new actor named Bruce Willis, plus all about their 13 year marriage (31:46), Demi’s iconic moments that shaped our culture (40:42), the ending of Bruce and Demi’s marriage (51:02), her relationship with Ashton Kutcher and the difficulties that followed (53:20), and finally, Demi’s stunning second act. (1:11:36)

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