Richard Zwicky introduced Simi Lichtman to discuss MDMA-assisted therapy for relational healing and trauma, explaining that MDMA, an empathogen, fosters safety and connection, allowing individuals to address deeply repressed trauma and relationship defenses.

Simi highlighted the importance of preparation and integration sessions, cautioning that the therapeutic experience might be challenging, not necessarily "ecstatic."

Richard and Simi also discussed guidance for self-guided MDMA journeys and its application in post-rupture relationships