Cartoonist and former brand manager Tom Fishburne—best known as the creator of Marketoonist—joins Carl for a conversation that flips the script on what it means to take risks. From leaving a stable job with a Harvard MBA to becoming a full-time cartoonist, Tom shares what looked like “career suicide” from the outside became his most stable and fulfilling path.

They explore the quiet financial anxiety of childhood, the lessons Tom learned from his mom’s late return to college, and a pivotal year spent in Prague that sparked a lifelong entrepreneurial mindset. Along the way, they talk about the voices of self-doubt, the myth of the “safe job,” and the courage it takes to build a purposefully small, soulful business.

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Cover Art: Josh Passler - TheFinArtist.com

Music Credits: 

Alexandra Woodward / Rabbit Reggae / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com

Cody Francis / Wherever You’re Going / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com

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