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Magicians and I.B.M. Podcasters Jason Michaels and Ben Young welcome International President of the I.B.M. Stephen Levine to the show. They discuss how Stephen got into magic, his journey from Mastle Castle Knight, to I.B.M. Legal Advisor and, finally, to International President.

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