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Welcome back to The Fifth Question Podcast — I’m your host, Daniel Levine.
In today’s wildly unexpected episode, I sit down with @DavidWilberBlog — a popular Christian writer, teacher, and theologian — who makes a provocative case: Christians should be keeping Jewish (biblical/Mosaic) law.This is Part 1 of a longer conversation, and it focuses on David’s framework as a Christian who practices Torah observance through Messianic Judaism — what he describes as a “Jewish form of Christianity” rooted in first-century practice.✅ What We Cover in Part 1In this episode, we unpack:🔹 Torah & ChristianityWhy David believes Jesus and the apostles affirmed the Torah rather than abolishing itWhat “pronomian” theology is (pro-law) and why he argues “antinomian” Christianity (anti-law) misreads Scripture🔹 The Practical Questions Everyone AsksWhat does “keeping biblical law” actually mean day-to-day?Sabbath: how do you define “rest” without the Talmud?Kashrut (kosher laws): how do Messianic Christians decide what counts as kosher?Can you eat a cheeseburger if the Torah only says “don’t boil a calf in its mother’s milk”?🔹 Paul: Did He Reject Jewish Law?We go deep into the biggest controversy:The classic Protestant/Lutheran reading of Paul vs. newer scholarshipThe “New Perspective on Paul” (including E.P. Sanders)“Paul within Judaism” and scholars like Mark Nanos and Matthew ThiessenActs 21, James, and whether Paul’s practice was actually Torah-observant🔹 Anti-Jewish Theology & Church HistoryDavid’s experience being called a “Judaizer”Early Christian hostility to Torah practice (Justin Martyr, John Chrysostom)Why he argues many modern Christians are “not Protestant enough” — if Protestantism means returning to original roots🔹 Messiah, Law, and the End of DaysWe explore a fascinating philosophical/theological tension:If the Messiah has come (Jesus), why would the law still be necessary?Jewish mystical theories of law changing in the messianic age (Gershom Scholem, Kabbalistic thought)David’s argument from the prophets (Ezekiel 36; Torah “written on the heart”) and Matthew 5 (“not one jot or tittle…”)🎧 Part 2 Coming SoonBecause this conversation ran long, Part 2 will drop in a couple of days — and that’s where we flip the script and get into:Jews for JesusWhy Jews don’t accept JesusA 45-minute debate on “evidence” for Jesus as Messiah (Bible + philosophy + epistemology)➡️ Subscribe so Part 2 shows up automatically when it drops.👍 Support the ChannelIf you enjoyed this conversation, please like, comment, and subscribe — it genuinely helps the show reach more people.Now, here’s Part 1 with David Wilber.#christain #jesus #jewishthought #jewishlaw #rabbi
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Welcome back to The Fifth Question Podcast — I’m your host, Daniel Levine.
In today’s wildly unexpected episode, I sit down with @DavidWilberBlog — a popular Christian writer, teacher, and theologian — who makes a provocative case: Christians should be keeping Jewish (biblical/Mosaic) law.This is Part 1 of a longer conversation, and it focuses on David’s framework as a Christian who practices Torah observance through Messianic Judaism — what he describes as a “Jewish form of Christianity” rooted in first-century practice.✅ What We Cover in Part 1In this episode, we unpack:🔹 Torah & ChristianityWhy David believes Jesus and the apostles affirmed the Torah rather than abolishing itWhat “pronomian” theology is (pro-law) and why he argues “antinomian” Christianity (anti-law) misreads Scripture🔹 The Practical Questions Everyone AsksWhat does “keeping biblical law” actually mean day-to-day?Sabbath: how do you define “rest” without the Talmud?Kashrut (kosher laws): how do Messianic Christians decide what counts as kosher?Can you eat a cheeseburger if the Torah only says “don’t boil a calf in its mother’s milk”?🔹 Paul: Did He Reject Jewish Law?We go deep into the biggest controversy:The classic Protestant/Lutheran reading of Paul vs. newer scholarshipThe “New Perspective on Paul” (including E.P. Sanders)“Paul within Judaism” and scholars like Mark Nanos and Matthew ThiessenActs 21, James, and whether Paul’s practice was actually Torah-observant🔹 Anti-Jewish Theology & Church HistoryDavid’s experience being called a “Judaizer”Early Christian hostility to Torah practice (Justin Martyr, John Chrysostom)Why he argues many modern Christians are “not Protestant enough” — if Protestantism means returning to original roots🔹 Messiah, Law, and the End of DaysWe explore a fascinating philosophical/theological tension:If the Messiah has come (Jesus), why would the law still be necessary?Jewish mystical theories of law changing in the messianic age (Gershom Scholem, Kabbalistic thought)David’s argument from the prophets (Ezekiel 36; Torah “written on the heart”) and Matthew 5 (“not one jot or tittle…”)🎧 Part 2 Coming SoonBecause this conversation ran long, Part 2 will drop in a couple of days — and that’s where we flip the script and get into:Jews for JesusWhy Jews don’t accept JesusA 45-minute debate on “evidence” for Jesus as Messiah (Bible + philosophy + epistemology)➡️ Subscribe so Part 2 shows up automatically when it drops.👍 Support the ChannelIf you enjoyed this conversation, please like, comment, and subscribe — it genuinely helps the show reach more people.Now, here’s Part 1 with David Wilber.#christain #jesus #jewishthought #jewishlaw #rabbi

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