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"They hated each other." That's Elliot Kaufman describing Israel's war cabinet, not its enemies.
Hen Mazzig, co-founder of the Tel Aviv Institute and author of The Wrong Kind of Jew, says Israel won on the battlefield and lost the world, and that explaining Israel "is not a replacement for policy." He spent five years in COGAT, the IDF unit that issues Palestinian permits and prison visits, and was attacked by settlers while in uniform. We play his Piers Morgan fight with Norman Finkelstein ("Am I a child killer?") and go through what Amit Soussana actually said. Noam asks whether Israel would hold the West Bank if it had no holy sites, why the occupation is the Palestinians' best weapon, and why "sunlight grows mushrooms." Also: Mamdani's October 7 statement, Mearsheimer on the Hannibal Directive, Eurovision, and why Noam thinks everyone should have a baby.
0:00 Hen Mazzig, three years and a day after October 7
4:19 "We won on the battlefield and lost the world"
18:36 Food, famine and the arguments that don't work
28:52 What if the West Bank had no holy sites?
37:56 Smallpox, arrogance and "have a baby"
52:13 Five years in COGAT: what the IDF's humanitarian unit does
61:40 "Am I a child killer?" Finkelstein and the rape deniers
76:00 Mearsheimer, the Hannibal Directive and "sunlight grows mushrooms"
Is Nathan Cofnas's "Guide for the Hereditarian Revolution." a plan to heal or America, or is it simply a racist manifesto dressed up as science.
We ask him to his face. Cofnas is the philosopher at the center of the Jason Arday plagiarism affair.
He says that, all else equal, smarter people have more human worth. He says freedom of association is worth it even if some diner bans blacks and Jews. And he says race realism is about to break into the mainstream whether we like it or not.
Noam takes him through A Guide for the Hereditarian Revolution line by line: the Charles Murray debate, Jared Taylor, a speech by Michael Levin (whose book Cofnas calls important), white kids "brainwashed to despise themselves," Nikole Hannah-Jones's daughter and the lifeboat question. Periel arrives late, just in time to call it insane (as usual).
9:26 Is a smarter person worth more?
23:33 "Some barriers set up between the races"
32:16 Jared Taylor, AmRen and Michael Levin
53:03 "White children are brainwashed to despise themselves"
1:29:54 Nikole Hannah-Jones and her daughter
1:41:53 Lower human worth? The lifeboat question
1:47:38 Closing argument: yarmulkes on the basketball court
Nathan Cofnas, A Guide for the Hereditarian Revolution (Feb 5, 2024)
https://ncofnas.com/p/a-guide-for-the-hereditarian-revolution
Nathan Cofnas, Are Smart People Superior? A Reply to Noah Carl and Charles Murray (Apr 26, 2024)
https://ncofnas.com/p/are-smart-people-superior-a-reply
Debate with Charles Murray: IQ and Human Worth (Sept 16, 2026)
https://ncofnas.com/p/debate-with-charles-murray-iq-and
Nathan Cofnas, Why We Need to Talk about the Right's Stupidity Problem (Jan 2, 2024)
https://ncofnas.com/p/why-we-need-to-talk-about-the-rights
Nathan Cofnas, Beating Woke with Facts and Logic (Oct 9, 2025)
https://ncofnas.com/p/beating-woke-with-facts-and-logic
Nathan Cofnas on X, "Jews tried to be white nationalists" (Apr 28, 2018)
https://x.com/nathancofnas/status/990243373180219397
David Reich, How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of 'Race,' New York Times (Mar 23, 2018)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/opinion/sunday/genetics-race.html
David M. Quinn, How to Reduce Racial Bias in Grading, Education Next (Nov 2, 2020)
https://www.educationnext.org/how-to-reduce-racial-bias-in-grading-research/
Nikole Hannah-Jones on her daughter's schooling, New York Times Magazine (Sept 20, 2026)
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/20/magazine/ny-public-schools-black-students-segregation.html
This American Life, Ep. 898, An Argument (Nikole Hannah-Jones and her daughter)
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/898/an-argument
Synopsis
Richard Hanania is back. His new book, Kakistocracy, argues that populism ends in rule by the worst people, and he and Noam spend an hour testing that against the news: why populism can win without being popular, whether the Iran war was worth the shot even if it fails, whether China would rather help us than fight us, and how the right built a media culture where Tucker Carlson can say Israel killed Charlie Kirk and the vice president shrugs. Then the hardest subject on the show: Nathan Cofnas and "race realism." Hanania explains why he thinks the taboo is universal and why Cofnas is wrong that breaking it defeats wokeness, and Noam tells two stories about kids the experts wrote off. Plus the Epstein email dump, diagnostic inflation, and why smart people believe in God, demons, and the supernatural.
Ross Barkan got fired for it. Jason Arday resigned over it. Claudine Gay lost Harvard because of it. Brian Frye, a Tulane law professor and the legal academy's one and only defender of plagiarism, says nobody can explain why it's wrong in the first place. He joins Noam, Dan, and Periel to make the case: why the Gay affair was "a joke," why Arday's real problem was never plagiarism, why Barkan's readers didn't care, and why comedians police joke theft better than any court could. Also: did Amazon rip off the Comedy Cellar's sign? What's a byline worth when Claude wrote the prose?
0:00 Dan's back from Vegas, and a fan letter about the theme song
Noam Dworman, Dan Naturman and Periel Aschenbrand are joined by Musa al-Garbi. They discuss the Jason Arday scandal, academic freedom, DEI, affirmative action, merit, standardized testing, grade inflation and the growing crisis of trust in elite institutions.
Musa al-Gharbi is a sociologist in the School of Communication and Journalism at Stony Brook University. His work has appeared in The Guardian, the New York Times, the Washington Post, The Atlantic and The Nation among other publications. He is author of the book, We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/jason-arday-and-me
https://musaalgharbi.com
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Chapters:
02:11 Musa Al-Garbi’s experience with cancellation
12:16 The Jason Arday scandal
16:19 Identity, victimhood and the incentives inside elite professions 23:40 Does DEI actually work?
28:04 Race, education and standardized testing
38:29 Grade inflation and the collapse of academic standards
42:35 The bigger problem at Cambridge
45:11 Nathan Cofnas and the free-speech battle
57:06 Why academic freedom exists
1:04:31 The decline of serious political debate
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