Caleb has a chat with Matt McCrorey from back in Revolution's old home of Minneapolis. Caleb and Matt used to attend a couple of group meetings for people to discuss their deconstruction/deconversion, and though he is not a regular participant or listener, Matt has attended Revolution a time or two at Bryant-Lake Bowl in Minnesota.

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