The New Evangelicals Podcast

In this episode, Tim Whitaker brings on Michael Barrett, a seasoned lawyer and Christian, discusses the deep roots of Christian nationalism, its historical evolution, and how faith intersects with politics in America. He offers insights on how Christians can navigate and challenge the current landscape with integrity and love.

Chapters

02:09 Michael's Background and Christian Tradition

05:56 Historical Roots of Christian Nationalism

12:06 The Evolution of Religious Politics from the 1950s to Today

14:53 The Role of Systemic Roots in Political Movements

20:12 The Misuse of Scripture in Political Discourse

42:03 Upcoming Courses on Faith, Law, and Politics

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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

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In this episode, Tim Whitaker brings on Starlett Thomas⁠ to explore the deep roots of racial violence, white supremacy, and the importance of truth-telling in healing and justice.

Starlett's Website | Racelessgospel.com

Chapters

03:40 Starlett Thomas shares her background and calling

10:05 The body, memory, and racial trauma in America

12:55 The history of lynching and racial violence

17:02 The religion of whiteness and its rituals

36:05 White body supremacy as heresy

44:39 Closing thoughts and call to truth-telling

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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

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In this episode, Tim Whitaker and Andrew Seidel explore the historical and constitutional basis of the United States' relationship with Christianity, debunking myths about the founding fathers' religious beliefs and the influence of Christian principles on American law and culture.

Chapters

08:34 — The founders’ personal faith versus America’s founding principles

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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

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In this episode, biblical scholar and archaeologist Dr. Cynthia Schaefer-Elliott explains how we understand the ancient world and biblical history through archaeology, textual analysis, and comparative studies. She discusses the complexities of biblical texts, archaeological evidence, and how to approach the Bible with nuance and context.

Chapters

01:53 Understanding the biblical texts as multi-vocal and layered

08:55 Archaeology's role in verifying biblical narratives

19:53 The importance of dating methods in archaeology

35:01 Approaching the Bible with nuance and understanding its original context

44:46 Final thoughts and recommendations for listeners

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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

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*This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 421. The War on Black Women Under Trump*

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In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with ⁠Lisa Sharon Harper⁠ discusses the urgent need for embodied, community-driven action to combat systemic injustice, particularly the economic targeting of Black women. She shares stories of resilience and emphasizes the importance of faith, local activism, and understanding historical narratives to drive real change. Harper highlights initiatives like "The Clearing" project, which supports Black women, and offers practical steps for moving from digital activism to tangible on-the-ground efforts.

Chapters

01:21 The Impact of Policies on Black Women

06:48 Faith and Social Justice 

10:34 Community Engagement and Trust Building 

21:26 Supporting Black Women and Initiatives 

27:22 Embodied Action vs. Online Activism 

33:05 Resilience and Economic Empowerment 

45:37 Call to Action and Closing Thoughts

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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

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*This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 422. Faith Unlynched with Dr. Angela Parkert*

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In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with ⁠Dr. Angela Parker⁠ shares her journey as a biblical scholar, her approach to interpreting scripture, and how her work challenges fundamentalist perspectives. She discusses the importance of nuance, historical context, and the Black liberation tradition in understanding the Bible and resisting white Christian nationalism.

Chapters

02:09 Dr. Parker's Journey in Biblical Scholarship

06:42 Navigating the Complexity of Biblical Texts

17:01 Faith and Certainty in Biblical Interpretation

26:01 Experiences of Black Women in Academia

35:54 Reframing the Biblical Narrative

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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

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*This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 424. Islam 101 with Qasim Rashid*

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In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with ⁠Qasim Rashid⁠ discusses the core principles of Islam, its history, and how it promotes peace, religious freedom, and interfaith understanding. He addresses misconceptions about Sharia law, the diversity within Islam, and the importance of unity in a pluralistic society.

Chapters

02:59 Understanding Islam: Myths and Realities

08:56 The Quran: Its Significance and Preservation

12:04 Sharia Law: Misconceptions and Realities

21:11 Understanding Religious Extremism and Its Context

25:45 Historical Perspectives on Islam and Coexistence

30:37 The Role of Faith in Interfaith Relations

35:40 Concepts of Afterlife and Justice in Islam

40:44 Building a Pluralistic Society Against Extremism

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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

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*This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 400. The Separation of Church and Hate*

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In today's episode, Tim interviews John Fugelsang, author of '⁠The Separation of Church and Hate⁠.' They discuss John's upbringing in a Catholic household, the hijacking of Christianity by fundamentalists, and the challenges of engaging with those who hold extremist views. The conversation also touches on the role of media in shaping perceptions of Christianity, the impact of Trump on evangelicalism, and the importance of shared values in combating Christian nationalism. John emphasizes the need for Christians to return to the teachings of Jesus and to advocate for love and compassion in society.

John's Book | ⁠Separation of Church and Hate: A Sane Person's Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds⁠

John on Twitter | ⁠@Johnfugelsang⁠

Chapters

02:45 John's Background and Early Influences

08:29 Engaging with Fundamentalism

14:47 Cognitive Dissonance in Evangelicalism

20:42 The Challenge of Critical Thinking in Faith

38:30 The Role of Media in Shaping Narratives

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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.

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We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!

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*This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 408. I Used to Work For Turning Point. Here's How I Got Out*

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In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Caroline Stout, a former employee of Turning Point USA, about her journey from evangelical fundamentalism to a more nuanced understanding of faith and politics. Caroline shares her experiences growing up in a mega church, her involvement with Turning Point USA, and the evolution of the organization over the years.

Caroline on Instagram | ⁠@Babyblue.tx⁠

Caroline on TikTok | ⁠@Babyblue.tx⁠

Chapters

05:10 Growing Up in Evangelical Culture

15:02 The Evolution of Turning Point USA

24:45 The Impact of Media and Propaganda

35:06 Navigating Complexities of Faith and Politics

40:05 Conclusion and Future Directions

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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

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In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in an insightful interview with ⁠Brian Recker about his book 'Hellbent' and explores the concept of hell, deconstruction, and the future of Christianity. They discuss how traditional views of hell have shaped theology and how a more love-centered approach can transform faith and justice.

Order Brian's Book | Hellbent

Chapters

05:02 Hell as a metaphor for systemic evil

15:09 The role of metaphor and story in spirituality

25:12 The systemic roots of Christian supremacy

35:08 Practical steps toward justice and love

39:48 Closing thoughts and resources

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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

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