Media inquiries: https://www.sonsofpatriarchy.com/contact

Patreon: patreon.com/sonsofpatriarchy

Website: sonsofpatriarchy.com

Donate: https://donorbox.org/sons-of-patriarchy

Are you in the PCA, and need help navigating your situation? Contact: https://tinyurl.com/56sb2c3b

Free live workshops of the PCA Book of Church Order (BCO): https://tinyurl.com/bdcs7xrt

Read and discuss the PCA report on Domestic Abuse and Sexual Assault: https://tinyurl.com/4cx9n538

Donate to Advocacy from the Presbyterian Pew: https://tinyurl.com/ms6ba2ky

Here's Joyce's interview on Bare Marriage: https://tinyurl.com/36zcp3ya

Find Donna Westcott's blogg here: https://tinyurl.com/862jbvyb

Meet Joyce Rohe, former member of Rio Vista Community Church (PCA) in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Lynna Sutherland, the founder of Advocacy from the Presbyterian Pew (and a PCA member herself), and Donna Westcott, a licensed professional counselor (and critic of "Biblical" counseling). What happens when you go against your church elders' wishes by divorcing your abusive and absent husband? They skirt the "process" and discipline you without trial. What happens when you try to navigate that very system? They use it against you. What happens when you try to seek "biblical" counseling for all the pain this causes you? They convince you it's your fault, that there's sin residing in you. In short, you're excommunicated.

Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by:

Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell

Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/

Social Media: Sarah Bader

Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors

SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.

Media inquiries: https://www.sonsofpatriarchy.com/contact

Patreon: patreon.com/sonsofpatriarchy

Website: sonsofpatriarchy.com

Donate: https://donorbox.org/sons-of-patriarchy

The counterpart to Episode 13, It's Only a Matter of Rank. This time we have Beth Allison Barr (James Vardaman Professor of History at Baylor University, and author of numerous books), Sheila Wray Gregoire (founder of Bare Marriage, and author of numerous books), Cait West (yes, again!), and Hannah Oliver.

The men are trained as leaders, and the women, as followers. The virtuous woman *only* stays at home, homeschools her children, satisfies her husband, and makes sure there's no ugliness in her. They are to stay silent, unless, of course, they've been approved to teacher other women to... stay silent. You can speak, as long as you tell other women not to.

At the same time women are more liable to deceit than their male counterparts they also hold the power to cause their brothers to stumble. It's a whiplash, a system wherein you're told to be feminine, but not too feminine, smart, but not too smart, put together, but not independent.

In summary, it's impossible. A standard you can never live up to. But there's another way, the way of Jesus. He who gladly took a rank below his, to give you a rank above yours.

Buy Beth's book Becoming the Pastor's Wife here: https://tinyurl.com/53bepjff

Buy Beth's book The Making of Biblical Womanhood here: https://tinyurl.com/yc7336tk

Buy Sheila's book The Marriage You Want here: https://tinyurl.com/5y6rjdxh

Buy Sheila's book She Deserves Better here: https://tinyurl.com/5n8afrsw

Buy Sheila's book The Great Sex Rescue here: https://tinyurl.com/4t4yna7b

Buy Cait's book Rift here: https://tinyurl.com/y7j85csy

Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by:

Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell

Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/

Social Media: Sarah Bader

Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors

SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.

Media inquiries: https://www.sonsofpatriarchy.com/contact

Patreon: patreon.com/sonsofpatriarchy

Website: sonsofpatriarchy.com

Donate: https://donorbox.org/sons-of-patriarchy

Are you in the OPC and need help? Contact the Presbyterian Advocacy Coalition: https://www.presbyterianadvocacycoalition.org

Meet Theresa Garcia Robertson, Zach LeReaux, and Caroline McKuen.

Theresa is a former member of Covenant OPC in La Grange, Georgia, pastored by Boyd Miller. Zach is Ali's husband (from Let's Get Spiritual), and will shed light on how men should engage with and respond to those who've been abused. Caroline McKuen is the director and founder of the Presbyterian Advocacy Coalition.

For too long these cases and stories have been covered up, whether that be for "lack of evidence," or "sinful, but not criminal," or "undue gossip." Women have been silenced (as have some men), men have been coerced (as have some women), presbyteries have turned a blind eye, and the "good" men in authority, and the churches they pastor do nothing while people suffer.

We've got something to say about that.

Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by:

Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell

Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/

Social Media: Sarah Bader

Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors

SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.

Media inquiries: https://www.sonsofpatriarchy.com/contact

Patreon: patreon.com/sonsofpatriarchy

Website: sonsofpatriarchy.com

Donate: https://donorbox.org/sons-of-patriarchy

Read about the woman's story at FBC Beggs here: https://tinyurl.com/5x7w6ddj

In this episode I spoke with repeat guest Cait West, a woman whose marriage and church (FBC Beggs in Beggs, Oklahoma, led by pastor Chris Gore) was taken over by the patriarchy, and Zach Wagner (author of "Non-Toxic Masculinity") about the Patriarchy.

Patriarchy is not only toxic for the women subjugated under it, it's an impossible system for the men to exercise. It's a reaction to the perceived feminization of the church, of culture, and of society. It's an ideology wherein it's not enough to *be* a man, you must *do* manly things to prove it.

And therein lies the problem, an identity wrapped up in performance rather than the gospel.

Buy Cait's book here: https://tinyurl.com/27nvt34h

Buy Zach's book here: https://tinyurl.com/6pt73vsb

Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by:

Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell

Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/

Social Media: Sarah Bader

Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors

SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.

Media inquiries: https://www.sonsofpatriarchy.com/contact

Patreon: patreon.com/sonsofpatriarchy

Website: sonsofpatriarchy.com

Donate: https://donorbox.org/sons-of-patriarchy

Meet Rachel Curtiss, former member of Cities Church in St. Paul, Minnesota, and Cait West, former member of the PCA, RPCNA, and OPC in Pennsylvania and Colorado.

Rachel was publicly excommunicated by Joe Rigney (now at Christ Church Moscow) because she left an abusive marriage and church without their blessing. Cait West, author of the book Rift, was entrenched in the "stay-at-home-daughter" movement, and managed to escape.

They have both found their voice.

Get Cait West's book here: https://tinyurl.com/ycynkhnd

Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by:

Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell

Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/

Social Media: Sarah Bader

Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors

SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.

Media inquiries: https://www.sonsofpatriarchy.com/contact

Patreon: patreon.com/sonsofpatriarchy

Website: sonsofpatriarchy.com

Donate: https://donorbox.org/sons-of-patriarchy

Join us as we talk with repeat guest Jeff Moss, a former CREC Minister, who has over a decade of experience "in the system."

The Trinity is the bedrock of the Christian faith: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. But what happens when you've entered into a culture war? The perceived "feminization" of the Evangelical church presents to you a problem: how do we fight this? Enter the old heresy of the Father as "authority" and the Son as "submission." The man in the marriage mirrors God the Father's role, while the wife is subjugated to that of the Son.

What better to keep women under control than to tell them to "suffer like Jesus." The Trinity then becomes the foundation for gender roles.

Let's fix this.

Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by:

Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell

Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/

Social Media: Sarah Bader

Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors

SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.

Media inquiries: https://www.sonsofpatriarchy.com/contact

Patreon: patreon.com/sonsofpatriarchy

Website: sonsofpatriarchy.com

Donate: https://donorbox.org/sons-of-patriarchy

Both stories are coming on anonymously. The first is a couple who attended a CREC in the Southeast, and the second is a woman who grew up at Harvest OPC, near Grand Rapids, Michigan.

The first story is about spiritual abuse and gaslighting, the second story is the outworking of Nancy Wilson's disgusting quip, "of course a husband is never trespassing his own garden" in this woman's life.

We can do better.

Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by:

Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell

Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/

Social Media: Sarah Bader

Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors

SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.

Media inquiries: https://www.sonsofpatriarchy.com/contact

Patreon: patreon.com/sonsofpatriarchy

Website: sonsofpatriarchy.com

Donate: https://donorbox.org/sons-of-patriarchy

Join Dr. R. Scott Clark and I as we discuss Federal Vision, it's various off-shoots and internecine debates, amber ale and oatmeal stout "versions," engage with clips from Douglas Wilson, Richard Lusk (among other CREC ministers who have blocked us), and look at the original statements and lectures from Auburn Avenue in 2002.

This is our most theologically dense episode of the series. It's a beatdown of "Federal Vision," a works-based Christianity. We end by describing how this system of doctrine necessarily leads to abuse and obedience that is "cloaked" in submission.

Let's make the gospel scandalous, not scandalized. That which leads to human flourishing, not fear.

R. Scott Clark's faculty page: https://tinyurl.com/yc3pjz5c

R. Scott Clark's podcast: https://tinyurl.com/ycxaruw2

R. Scott Clark's blog: https://tinyurl.com/4sb35au7

Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by:

Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell

Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/

Social Media: Sarah Bader

Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors

SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.

Media inquiries: https://www.sonsofpatriarchy.com/contact

Patreon: patreon.com/sonsofpatriarchy

Website: sonsofpatriarchy.com

Donate: https://donorbox.org/sons-of-patriarchy

A special episode profiling the allegations brought by survivors against Vision of Hope at Faith Lafayette.

Resources:

Website: https://hoperestoredcommunity.wordpress.com

Contact: https://hoperestoredcommunity.wordpress.com/connect/

Recovery Facebook Group: https://tinyurl.com/csk5xhzp

Community Facebook Group: https://tinyurl.com/msbs74fy

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hoperestored.community/

Public Facebook Page: https://tinyurl.com/m282nc7b

Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by:

Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell

Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/

Social Media: Sarah Bader

Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors

SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.

Media inquiries: https://www.sonsofpatriarchy.com/contact

Patreon: patreon.com/sonsofpatriarchy

Website: sonsofpatriarchy.com

Donate: https://donorbox.org/sons-of-patriarchy

Meet Aimee Byrd (a former member of the OPC in the Northeast and prolific author), Ali LeReaux (a former member of the OPC in the Southeast), and Heather Nadreau (a former member of Christ Church Spokane, CREC).

Spiritual abuse so often gets short shrift, but it upends everything you think about the gospel, the church, Jesus, and the pastors who are commanded to shepherd your soul.

The gospel ceases being a salve in favor for a rod. It ceases building you up, by beating you down.

Aimee's books mentioned in the episode:

Saving Face: https://tinyurl.com/5n7jwvmd

The Hope in Our Scars: https://tinyurl.com/3wywurb4

The Sexual Reformation: https://tinyurl.com/y5jh2e28

Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood: https://tinyurl.com/29y5he2z

Why Can't We Be Friends: https://tinyurl.com/22vpsy9e

No Little Women: https://tinyurl.com/4r5b988r

Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by:

Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell

Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/

Social Media: Sarah Bader

Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors

SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.