Award-winning journalist, founder of Zeteo and man feared by all war criminals, Mehdi Hasan joins Francesca to talk about a wide range of issues. They discuss Trump 2.0 and whether or not idiocy will stop the fascism, and the idea that Trump's base would ever turn on him when he fails to deliver. They also talk about the media's loss of credibility during the Gaza genocide, whether debates with right wingers are worth it, and the phenomenon of heralding the murder of a healthcare CEO.

Make sure to check out Zeteo's reporting and podcasts at www.zeteo.com. And check out Francesca's appearance on We're Not Kidding with Mehdi and Amanda Seales.

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