From the "Science… Sort Of" and "iFanboy" podcasts, Ryan Haupt joins Case and Jmike for a discussion about the novel that asks "What was Superman up to prior to Action Comics #1?" From dust bowl Kansas to Tinsel Town's Golden Age and beyond, the three tackle what shapes a boy into a super man!

We're back with more of the radio show, but this time we're joined by Adam Lance Garcia and Steele Filipek, creators of the Green Lama audio drama! This time we're looking at the second team up of Superman and Batman EVER (and the first is lost to time)!

Stupid Sexy Superman!

Case, Jmike, and special guest J.D. Martin breeze through Grant Morrison's fairwell to DC, Superman and the Authority, like it's nothing at all! Nothing At All! NOTHING AT ALL!

When this show was still figuring out a format, Case just assumed we'd be getting to John Byrne's era. Well, now, 4 years in, that's finally true! Join Case, Jmike, and special guest Frank Hernandez for a talk about the definitive Superman origin, until it wasn't.

As part of the #DarkKnightFortnight we're talking about "the one where Superman's Batman", you know the one! Yeah! That one! Speeding Bullets, by J. M. DeMatteis and Eduardo Barreto. To have that conversation, we're joined by Zack Magee from the S.H.U. Podcast.

Take a look back at the formative years of the Man of Tomorrow, as JD and Angela join Case and Jmike for a chat about Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale's landmark series, Superman For All Seasons!

Eternals is finally streaming and Case and Jmike's opinions aren't of a uni-mind, so to arbitrate this discussion we have CeeJay on from Below Freezing!

Many have asked "Must there be a Superman?", but Alan Davis explored what the DC Universe would be like if the Man of Steel never showed up! Case and Jmike are joined by Jonah Gregory from the Inks and Issues podcast for a chat about this classic Elseworlds!

We are joined by Neil Gaiman experts, J.D. Martin and Angela "Bones" Bullock, from the "Fables & Reflections" podcast to talk about the unfinished arc of Miracleman by the bard of comics himself.

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Men of Steel Full Episode Originally aired: January 14, 2022

Edited by Matt Storm

Scored by Gen Moonen

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⏱️ Chapters

00:00 Disclaimer

02:42 Welcome and Guest Intro

03:26 Neil Gaiman's Miracleman

05:48 Miracleman's Publication Problems

07:32 The Birth Scene

10:43 From Alan Moore to Neil Gaiman

11:38 Life in Miracleman's World

17:16 The Climb

24:55 Reactions to Miracleman

27:42 Miracleman and Nuclear Fear

37:04 Jason's Survival Guilt

40:40 Computer-Matched Relationships

44:04 Skin Deep

47:26 Miracle Woman as Venus

50:21 Rebuilding the Natural World

54:21 The Miracleman Children

01:01:50 Notes from the Underground

01:03:25 Andy Warhol and Emil Gargunza

01:07:28 Rebuilding Gargunza

01:14:33 Systems of Control

01:18:25 Winter's Tale

01:23:32 Winter as a Terrifying Figure

01:29:52 Spy Story

01:33:14 The City of Spies

01:37:45 Cold War Paranoia

01:41:34 The Carnival

01:47:18 Miracleman's Gift of Flight

01:50:43 The Unfinished Run

01:53:29 Miracleman's Legal History

01:58:46 The Silver Age

02:03:20 What Might Have Come Next

02:06:17 Final Thoughts on Miracleman

02:12:54 Angela's Final Thoughts

02:18:43 Guest Plugs

02:22:03 Jmike and Case's Plugs

02:24:35 Post-Show

02:24:57 Comics Quest Promo

Dream of Flying with Alex, Jmike, and Case! They're taking a look at the incredibly influential early 80's story, whether they call it Marvelman or Miracleman! So whisper "Kimota" and join the Red Kings in Olympus!