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John and I have a long history.  He wanted to focus on some of his questions and so we did.  He also thought his questions might help others too.  The opportunity to have his proactive focus is helpful as this discussion develops.  We will probably continue as his questions were ordered on a pad many pages long.  

Words along with outward actions do not define who we are but what we think. Noticing more going on than we think has what appear limited seen as interacting  with interconnectedness rather than concluding any means to an end. There is no defense, so no fight, in  things as they are even as inner debate over how or what things should be drags on. 

Lies only appear to exist in thoughts imagining what is false can be true.  This impossibility will last as long as we insist thinking obsessively that the solution is focusing more thought on thinking harder. Only experience gets harder doing this. 

Consider that thoughts are considerations and to think of them as true is to think of thought as the creator of reality.  If our most fundamental thinking of life, reality, and truth is wrong trying be right has this impossibility naturally contaminate and destabilize all of our thoughts, words, outer actions and emotions. 

We each have an impact, we each change things, since we always make a difference.  
It is what we each think of the difference we make that determines our experience and how we interact socially.  We want things as they are since things are always as they are and to think they shouldn’t be is to think ignorance of everything makes good sense.  Social ills or well-being are distinguished by healthy or unhealthy thoughts.   

If we can make things worse, we can get better, since we know we know and are aware we are aware.

We Know We Know.
We Are Aware We Are Aware.
We Are as We Are.

Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse the Law and Order of our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion.

Principles affirm Our indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality

Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible jibbersh of ignorance - not reality.

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May's principle is Integrity; which is integration since what is Absolute is the seamless nature of all that is and all that are: all that exists.  

Principles are indivisible, inviolable, indiscriminate, and equitable since they reflect the operating basis for functional capacity, of humans and all things.  We share these since there are no distinctions in them, there is nothing we can think of them that can diminish our actual state of existence while our thoughts, especially when they are conflicted are reflective of any incapacity, dysfunction, and suffering we experience.  

We Know We Know.
We Are Aware We Are Aware.
We Are as We Are.

Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse the Law and Order of our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion.

Principles affirm Our indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality

Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible jibbersh of ignorance - not reality.

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Both of these generous men have first-hand experience with violence and talk about the impact of their experience that had it seem to become second nature. They are both close friends and appreciating their frankness is easy since the vulnerable aspects of childhood and trauma are often thought to be hidden.  

Violence is brewed internally with thoughts that are conflicted. There is no greater self-abuse than what we experience since our pain and pleasure centers occur immediately where our thoughts are generated or degenerated.  Thinking that thinking of itself creates a self that we can become is not true thus a major conflict that cannot be overcome by more incorrect thinking.  Proving who we are is unnecessary when we concede who we are is not limited by what we think.  

There are no stories that are told that are true.  They all have the potential for morals while they are often used to excuse what we do.  To act irresponsibly for what we are doing is not moral or virtuous.  Reality and Truth are not based on what we think so what we think of them does not change them - as the impact is only on what we think, we think.  

What is simple is simple.  What is absolute does not change.  To ignore what is always present in favor of what is only imagined to exist is to chronically create complications that are not true.  Mentally obsessive thinking is a mental problem.  Thinking about things that don't exist as all that exists is delusional and insane.  

We Know We Know.
We Are Aware We Are Aware.
We Are as We Are.

Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse the Law and Order of our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion.

Principles affirm Our indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality

Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible jibbersh of ignorance - not reality.

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MOD episodes have no shelf-life or expiration date.  Since our focus is principled and always happening now - each will always reflect the fluid nature of current events.

The right to think does not make what we think right. Inner conflict and emotional turmoil reflect lies that only appear to exist in thought. 

Once thoughts seem true thinking we create reality we imagine what we think is who and all we are. Imposter syndrome is the imposition of these thoughts posing as our “self”. The consequence of this mistaken identity is to feel we don’t belong where we are so constantly try get where we think we should be. Trying to feel better is typical. These conditions are caused by us and since they are wrong seem to happen to us  

 Truth and Reality do not change. Truth sets us Free from false beliefs fighting for proof of truth since they have no use or basis in reality. Reality does not fight or need proof as it is as it is regardless of insufferable thoughts. Essence is essential and optimal, not optional or negotiable. We know we know and are aware we are aware. 

All voluntary actions start with a thought.  Only wrong thoughts, freely thought to be right, have us think escaping the disturbance created through reactive, impulsive, and compulsive behaviors is possible. Effects are the mirror image of cause.  Problems persist when thought of inaccurately. A lie as a lie is no longer a lie.  Wrong as wrong is right. It is the immediacy of our conflicted thoughts that impacts us. Aligning with what is actually happening has peace at the basis of  considerate “response-able” choices rather than chronic thoughts fighting to be right leading to a flurry of more desperate decision.

We are free to choose what we think. Consequences reflect the experience we create. Circumstance offers perspective. To deny either or both is to miss they are a manifest mirror to see mistaken ideas clearly. To act oblivious to what is obvious is a choice. 

What is absolute is indivisible, present, available, in reach, and always whole no matter our effort to pretend otherwise. Understanding is how the seeming invisibility of indivisibility can be seen. To understand our absolute nature is to dissipate conflict only occurring in thought. "Fools ( foolish thoughts ) rush in where Angels fear to tread." Angels know better than to create fear by imagining they are the creators of - rather than expressions of - reality. To think of insanity as our only possibility is to feel dispossessed while possessed and condemned by a force acting against us.  Creating this impression to excuse our involvement is a prayer not to exist. Obsessive thoughts l

We Know We Know.
We Are Aware We Are Aware.
We Are as We Are.

Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse the Law and Order of our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion.

Principles affirm Our indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality

Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible jibbersh of ignorance - not reality.

Contact Welcomed Here

MOD episodes inclusively overlap as they have no shelf-life or expiration date.  Since our focus is principled and always happening now - each will always reflect the fluid nature of current events.

It is not what is said or what is happening, but what we think of it that has the greatest impact on our experience.  If it is not what we hear or what is happening that we experience then we don’t hear or see what is actually happening but what we think.  When we think what we think is true we think all that exists is only what we think.  The immediate result is to imagine we are only what we think and immediately start to imagine we don’t fit or belong where we are so set off on a quest, of questions, born in doubt, to wrestle with what conveniently appears to be a mystery. 

To operate on the basis of a lie is to search endlessly to find fulfillment which is evidence we are aware of the emptiness of our creation.  Thinking about thinking, thinks up more thoughts and does not create a self, or any absolute nature based on being, essence, awareness, or knowledge. Thoughts are not who or what we are but to imagination are we capable of believing they are. 

Obsessive thoughts attempt to prove they are right.  If they were there would be no proof or fight since they would function every time they are applied.  Truth does not require agreement, belief, faith or hope to be true. Truth and Reality are simple since they do not change, as IT IS always as IT IS.

Our discussion is an awakened mediation to apply what we know even as we may not think so. Starting with any lack of faith, any greatness of doubt or sense of hopelessness, if it is accurate, is aligned to what is happening, in thought. When wrong is wrong it is right since there is no fight to avoid its weight or worth even if it has no substance or value. Openly discussing what is happening as it is happening is an exercise we can always use to better express our natural stability and abilities. Nature is easy.  Fighting it is hard since there is nothing to gain but pain and using pain as proof of life is a very twisted idea that has not worked yet and history is our written record of righteous indignation, that has never yet been right enough yet to keep us from killing each other in the name of what is right - when it is only a thought we are defending. Thoughts are thoughts. They are easier to have when thought of as they are rather than the internal conflict of thinking of them as they are not.  Reality and Truth do not rely on, nor are they ever limited in any way, by what we think of them. Nothing imagined can attack us. Nightmares like daydreams only appear real until we w

We Know We Know.
We Are Aware We Are Aware.
We Are as We Are.

Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse the Law and Order of our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion.

Principles affirm Our indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality

Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible jibbersh of ignorance - not reality.

Contact Welcomed Here

MOD episodes inclusively overlap as they have no shelf-life or expiration date.  Since our focus is principled and always happening now - each will always reflect the fluid nature of current events.

Our discussion is not about agreement, faith, or belief. It is the chance to sincerely consider what is said - and see by even considering any effects that occur including reactions - or shifts in awareness.  Consideration is a present contemplation as it is an awakened meditation.  Our observational capabilities are never restricted when we preoccupy our attention with obsessive thoughts.  Obsession is a clever way of making us believe there is nothing else we can do which is a fundamental thought of addiction.  Choice always allows the freedom to not choose.  If we did not know this we would not claim we have no other choice, since we would not use choice as our excuse, we'd simply be busy doing the only thing we think is the only thing possible.  

Watch your experience, and your thoughts,  and notice reactions are always defending something.  Our primary weakness are thoughts that are not true and are effectively indefensible even while relying on chronic thought to maintain the impression they will be, someday.  

Reality and truth have no defense as what is Absolute is not at risk.  Once we think we own our truth we think our thoughts are captive and thus we are captivated by what we think is true and real immediately supposing the so-called life of thought's image, ego, can be saved by fighting for what we think.  In fact, like any lie, it is the opposite of what is actually happening.  What is caused is not reality and truth but anxiety and stress that can feel real when our thoughts are thought of as real and true. Whenever we think our thoughts are reality whatever effects are created are imagined to confirm reality.  Pain is evidence of something wrong, not proof of reality where there is no pain.  This line of irrational thinking naturally undermines our functional capacity.  Thinking of things that are not real as real is to think of illusions, the imagery of thought, as reality, while it is in fact the insanity of delusion.   

Nothing said is of any value unless what is said applies to us all. Applying reality never requires much additional thought since it produces noticeable, useable results and can always be reapplied, by all.  As accurate as words can be there are no words that can or will break the "self-will" that thinks it is saved by denying truth.  Yet if you know what is said while thinking you don't you will naturally feel conflict, defensiveness, and defiance as your only choice - while thinking these e

We Know We Know.
We Are Aware We Are Aware.
We Are as We Are.

Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse the Law and Order of our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion.

Principles affirm Our indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality

Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible jibbersh of ignorance - not reality.

Contact Welcomed Here

MOD episodes have no shelf-life or expiration date.  Since our focus is principled and always happening now - each will always reflect the fluid nature of current events.

“All we are is peace, love and wisdom and the power to create the illusion that we are not.”

Jack Pransky
InsideOutUnderstanding.com

Response-ability is the ability to respond. Accountability adds up - or something is wrong.  Re-actions defend thinking that denial can create truth. 

Our conversation is not mythological or magical since it is not hypothetical or impossible. It poses no miracles since nature, like healing, is natural. It uncovers no mystery since Reality and Truth are not hidden as essence is essentially it is not conditional as it is always available and accessible. 


Digging and seeking for what cannot be found creates the feeling of being  lost and alone. Where we always are is where we fit and belong. This is so even as we vainly shake our heads trying to find our place as though it can be elsewhere. Looking everywhere but where we are is traumatic since the impossible conflict imposed will last as long as we rely on the incorrect thought that we think is true. The destabilizing impact on thought - by thought - feels like we don’t belong, since the thought has no basis.  Feeling reflects insanity by acknowledging what we are thinking as bad, wrong, disconnected etc. and it is not a reflection of who we are but what we are choosing to think - that is thoughtless. The present traumatic stress created by imagining the only place we  always are is the place we don’t belong or fit into is crazy since crazy is as crazy does.  Thinking is something we do it is not who we are or we wouldn’t know something is wrong. 

If we can think we’re not thinking what we’re thinking our words, feelings and outward behaviors are going to seem to be happening to us rather than being caused by us. To think circumstances happen to us is to think we’re non-existent. If this were true denial, defiance and defense would create an abundance of satisfaction rather than an abundance of conflict, stress and anxiety.   

Thought has no life of its own. It cannot act against, intrude on, or attack us. Thinking is at our disposal, like our bodies that  head where we aim them. That does not mean our aim is sane. None of this internal dialogue is happening anywhere other than where it is fostered and maintained in our brains and to think of its effect as hidden until we express it outwardly is to think we can control and hide it while it is written on our face and feels like we’re carrying the

We Know We Know.
We Are Aware We Are Aware.
We Are as We Are.

Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse the Law and Order of our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion.

Principles affirm Our indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality

Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible jibbersh of ignorance - not reality.

Contact Welcomed Here

MOD episodes have no shelf-life or expiration date.  Since our focus is principled and always happening now - each will always reflect the fluid nature of current events. 

“All we are is peace, love and wisdom and the power to create the illusion that we are not.”

Jack Pransky
InsideOutUnderstanding.com

It is a leap to consider delusion, lies or hallucinations have any power but to their  creator imagining them real. This scary, lonely, seeming blindness to reality is how any lack of substance, like any pitch black abyss lacking function, usefulness, or value appears.  Empty thoughts thinking another empty thought can be true appears to have us think we are blind to reality. Thought’s impact is immediate  since it is based on what we’re thinking now. 

Nature does not argue or have any internal conflict since it knows - it does not think. The nature of nature is peace and while it might express states that seem conflicted they are interactive rather than inter-reactive.  Nature is our nature. When we act out of order, and thinking is a primary action, we induce and impose the instability of pressure, stress and anxiety on our bodily experience since we are opposed to what is happening even while it is happening. To think subsequent disordered thoughts can be put in order by maintaining them is not sane. To act on the disturbance of inner conflict, upheaval and emotional turmoil is to foster them in subsequent thoughts. Conceding thought is central to the impact of these disturbing conditions is to see them as something we are choosing rather than helplessly think they are happening to us. We cannot function well while imagining what is not happening is all that is happening. 

There is no sanity in delusions and no delusion in reality.  Emotional sobriety is living sanely just as not drinking or using drugs is sane for an alcoholic or drug addict. This applies to all compulsive behaviors since entertaining ideas that are not true, while believing they are true, causes  reactive, impulsive and compulsive behaviors trying to escape the inner turmoil and conflict created. What is happening is always happening as it is happening where we are - and it includes all we are thinking about what is happening. Dissolving problems is easy. Trying to redo what we’ve done to get over them, push past them, feel better about them, or be in opposition to them, is only as hard as the experience of immediate pressure born only in thought borne as weight in the immediacy of the moment - now  

Honesty is not waiting for the right thing to say.  It is expressing what is bein

We Know We Know.
We Are Aware We Are Aware.
We Are as We Are.

Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse the Law and Order of our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion.

Principles affirm Our indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality

Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible jibbersh of ignorance - not reality.

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QUOTE: This month from Stacey V: 

“All we are is peace, love and wisdom and the power to create the illusion that we are not.”

JackPransky
InsideOutUnderstanding.com

Courage is natural when not discouraged.  Trying to turn a wrong thought into one that is right is discouraging.  This attempt stems from thinking incorrect thoughts are, or can be, true thus making reality dependent on thinking. In fact thinking depends on reality.  To have it backward is an an attempt to reverse the natural order of things. Addiction is the chronic attempt to reverse the natural order of things by claiming what is wrong can be made right by thinking about it obsessively. 

Response-ability is the ability to respond, rather than react.  It is contemplative and considerate rather than an automated, repetitious, re-action or defense. 

Accountability is reckoning with how things actually Are, since it accounts for how things add up and are balanced.  

We Know We Know.
We Are Aware We Are Aware.
We Are as We Are.

Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse the Law and Order of our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion.

Principles affirm Our indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality

Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible jibbersh of ignorance - not reality.

Contact Welcomed Here

MOD episodes have no shelf-life or expiration date.  Since our focus is principled and always happening now - each will always reflect the moving fluid nature of current events.

Consequences are immediate effects of a cause. Feelings are the body’s language.  What we think about what is happening is the  primary cause of our feelings. 

Observation is our present awareness and  as a reflection of what is happening it is not an opinion. Mental health is accurately thinking about what is happening - as it is happening - now.  Opinions about what is happening are about what we think not what is happening. To think we don’t like, want, or think what is happening should be happening has our thinking at odds with what is happening not the reverse. 

Thinking is never at odds with reality only itself and the self it is at odds with is who we wrongly think we become.  This simple twist in thought creates an impression that everything and everyone not allied with our thoughts is ready to attack us or is against us. 

When thoughts are thought of as reality and truth they seem permanent and intractable. Saying we are stuck in our thoughts or that they are intrusive and have the independent capacity to attack us is common.  This is simply an overt attempt to disclaim responsibility for what we are choosing to think.  This impossibility has life, the world and all its people appear difficult, complicated and impossible to confirm the false claim is cemented, or stuck, in reality.  Delusion cannot be stuck while it can be imagined to be within the limited confines of sick thoughts thinking only of them selves. 

It is only once we think thoughts are true that we think we become the creators of reality amd so thoughts seem stuck while it is our chronic attention that creates that sticky impression.  

There is no disharmony, discord or instability in our Absolute State of Knowing Awareness.  It is what we incorrectly think about our nature that is defective and primary to the disharmony and disturbances we suffer and write off, like any deduction, under the guise we call human nature. Our nature is not worthless or useless.  

We Are as We Are.  We are seldom if ever only as we think we are. Thinking is something we do so cannot be who we are. Thoughts are imagined they are not the creators of reality and truth. They are products of both. Thoughts are designed to express reality and truth. There is no fight for what is right anymore than there is a cost for freedom. Freedom is free as right is right neither require a fight. 

We Know We Know.
We Are Aware We Are Aware.
We Are as We Are.

Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse the Law and Order of our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion.

Principles affirm Our indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality

Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible jibbersh of ignorance - not reality.