Meta-Ideological Politics

We discuss Dugin and the critique of liberalism,  Steelmanning Dugin and misconceptions on classical liberalism, liberalism is built on something deeper, holding polarities and extremes, enculturation and Bildung, essentialism vs anti essentialism, Whitehead’s needle threading middle way, ontological divides in the culture wars, R.R Reno’s critique of Popper’s liberalism, Steiner’s social three folding theory, Verumelue’s common good constitutionalism, the dominance of the economic sphere in America,  the government can’t fix everything (including racism),  can government do something good? diaphanous anti-racism and fallacies of misplaced concreteness, the problems with “whiteness”, universal vs specific programs (reparations debate),  A viable path forward for the left/Democrats??, who are the Dems gonna run in 2024??, various nightmare scenarios, designing a perfect political leader, can we have an “us” without a “them?”, hate players instead of games, should government regulate social media?

We discuss tj and Antimemetics, define anti memes, Layman’s antimemetic ethical imperative, the antimemetic skillset for depolarization, antimeme as adaptive meme for inoculation, anitmemes, antifragility and complexity, information theory and Shannon entropy, tacit vs explicit knowledge, Hayek, markets, art, aesthetics, spirituality, harnessing the tacit, decentralized in form vs function, Zen Koan as antimeme and meta heuristics, Antimemetics and left/right polarities, epistemic injustice, shamanism, entropy and scale, entropy and information are coupled, requisite variety, codification and abstraction, criticisms of MIP (no constraints),  mutually exclusive memes as antimeme, various structures of feeling, a quote from Foucault, antimeme as constraint, and the antimeme as black hole and Mark Fisher’s capitalism realism. 

We discuss How I connected with Jared (ft. Jordan Peterson), what is “ideological” and what is not, Jared’s diplomatic disposition, Jared’s ideological promiscuity, exploring traditional conservatism, make virtue great again, dialogue and virtue, white supremacist archetypes, returning to ontology, hyperobjects, Roy Bhaskar’s critical realism and Demi-realities, inter-religious discourse, Sam Harris’s critique of Islam, and separating culture from content. 

We discuss - why Layman likes Nietzsche, Layman steel man’s Nietzsche the Nazi, How Nietzsche’s work can fork in opposing directions, Ronald Beiner’s book on Nietzsche and Heidegger, pre trans fallacies, the systems of modernity, hierarchies, spirituality, power, critiques of culture,  different types of difference, values, Nietzsche and religion book, Heidegger beyond the pale?, differing definitions of Fascism, Dugin and the “Volk”, spiritual decay and what to re-root into, fractal “we-ness”, Layman’s quantum sense of “we-ness”, Layman’s identification as a woman, group identity and collective action, identity, reification and mystery of being, collective identity development, question of nation-states and polarization. 

We discuss the Rhizoma field school, regenerative methodologies, larger paradigms of social change, small scale initiatives, unintended consequences, dual process theory, addressing macro scale issues, global trade futures, positive impacts of protectionism and localism, Ideology vs material interests, changing circumstances, community design principles (oblique approach), alienation inspiring self production, embodied experience, getting the framing right, action vs theory, holistic invisible hand, problem with subsidies, outcompeting industrial ag, and making farming fun again.

We discuss the theology and spirituality of Brent Cooper, ritual, symbology, spirituality, metanoia, living in the paradox, distinguishing resonance from orthodoxy, abstractivism vs front line activism, liminal web critiques and dreams, MIP’s approach to digesting left content, steel manning CRT, paradigms and anomalies, hyperobjects, epistemic justice, “seeing” and abstraction, ideological and dunning Kruger awareness, and legitimate meta perspective, anticapitalist, postcapitalist, teaching left groups meta-theory vs working on own terms, tracking events that don’t get covered, holding meta positions to transcend reductionism, listening as metaphor, Hanzi’s work, misunderstanding theories and controversial thinkers/theories, scaling education infrastructure, diverse conceptions of Bildung, and American Bildung and the military industrial complex. 

We discuss the, SIMPOL elevator pitch, SIMPOL in the US, levels/scale SIMPOL could work at, SIMPOL is not about building a new structure, consciousness and time, and the subsidiarity test, challenges with communicating SIMPOL and “seeing” hyperobjects, SIMPOL and evolutionary theory, cooperation, competition, and electoral considerations, 2 policy buckets, scientific/rational persuasion vs trust, cooperation incentives, 2 kinds of trust, SIMPOL, Ukraine, liberal hegemony, cultural sovereignty, spreading the message of SIMPOL. 

We discuss Jordan Hall Twitter and ideology critique,  from developmental to ideological blindness,  conservative naturalization, leftist contextualization/epistemologization, deep diving ontology, MIP and integral post metaphysics, and shared ontological grounds, Ryan doesn’t like “what comes next” stuff, Epistemes and ideological granularity, Fred Turner and the necessity of historical literacy, ideology critique, 5 pillars of meta-ideological awareness, ideology is a scary word and left/right appeal, having discernment when choosing the right analytic frame, disciplinary polarization and the need for consilience, myopic divisions of knowledge, ideological dismissal, platform socialism, ideological non-exclusivism and DEI trainings, integrating class analysis with the “meaning crisis”, diversifying the meaning crisis, Bodhisattva vs Arhats, bridge-building, escapism, meta-tribal politics.

We discuss framing the conversation - polarization seeps into romance and dating, aesthetic signifiers, identity, Kegan stages, problem of political mega-identities, internet avatars, fan culture, and tinder, communication mediums, withdrawing from politics and the exhausted majority, SHAME  the “other,” dating, romance and erotic fetishization, transformation requires energy and making space for taboos, repulsion, attraction,  love, hippies, god, the issue with liberalism art, symbolism, aesthetics and channeling energy.