Sam Goldman talks with Dr. Mia Bloom, member of the Evidence-Based Cybersecurity Research Group, professor of communication and Middle East studies at Georgia State University and a fellow with New America’s International Security program. Her new book, co-authored with Sophia Moskalenko is Pastels and Pedophiles: Inside the Mind of Qanon. Follow her on Twitter at @MiaMBloom.

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.