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Caroline vows not to say the F word. It goes about as well as you’d expect. Then we get serious about one of the hardest parts of parenting right now: raising kids who think for themselves when the crowd is bigger, louder and more online than ever, and when that crowd insists it’s the moral one.
We break down the “woke” acronym from Bethany Mandel’s interview on Hank Unplugged, debate how history should be taught (facts first, then the argument), and share a 2025 study showing reading for pleasure has fallen about 40% in 20 years. Eva brings Ron Hassner’s research on students who chanted “from the river to the sea” until they saw a map. Plus our meme of the week from Paris, Caroline’s son’s legendary mid-game trash talk, and what we actually do at home to raise upstanders, not bystanders.
Video Chapters
0:00 Welcome
1:01 Raising Kids Who Don't Follow the Crowd
2:36 Education or Indoctrination?
5:00 Stolen Youth and Bethany Mandel
6:30 What Does "Woke" Actually Mean?
7:08 Resilience vs. Victimhood
9:17 America Then and Now
13:00 How Should History Be Taught?
16:40 Anti-Racism and the Oppressor-Oppressed Lens
19:59 Social Media and the Decline of Reading
22:47 The "River to the Sea" Study
24:45 Standing Up When It's Unpopular
28:49 Peer Pressure Then vs. Now
29:18 Who's Teaching Our Kids?
31:09 October 7th as a Wake-Up Call
33:07 Meme of the Week
34:19 Freedom Is One Generation From Extinction
37:42 Raising Kids With a Moral Compass
38:54 Biology, Pronouns and Fitting In
43:25 Cupcake Socialism
43:46 Book of the Week: The War on the West
46:40 Bystander vs. Upstander
47:46 Mic Drop
Shownotes
Hank Unplugged with Hank Hanegraaff -- The episode with Stolen Youth authors Bethany Mandel and Karol Markowicz:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/50AQ5DyZNMx5syX70jFMjE?si=rUzE5nnjSmSt21yWkK5WaQ&utm_source=sms&nd=1&dlsi=a765830261c4425a
The War on the West by Douglas Murray:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0008492492?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback
One by Kathryn Otoshi;
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0972394648?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback
We’re not historians. We’re unexpert and unfiltered. If we got something wrong, show us the evidence.
Two NYC women who overshare for a living. Unfiltered. Unafraid. Unexpert. New episodes every Thursday.
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We’re two New York City women talking candidly about the chaos of modern life, from relationships, parenting, working in and out of the home, to what it takes to stay semi-sane in a world that expects you to hold it all together and be #blessed.
We couldn’t find an honest and vulnerable conversation — so we started one! If you need a laugh, a cry, or just want to hear someone else admit their flaws and validate your crazy, you’re in the right place. Be ready to be… Unfiltered, Unafraid, and UnExpert.
Please follow, like, review, and share the podcast with your family and friends!
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Estee Stimler’s mom is a Holocaust survivor, and Estee says that’s exactly why she’s funny. Her uncle created the New York City Marathon, and he used to come to Friday night dinner to eat meat while telling everyone he was vegetarian. Estee is a playwright, musical theatre writer, dramaturg and future comedy PhD. She joins Caroline in the new Miami studio. Lana Saffrin Betesh, a former lawyer, Jewish community leader and documentary producer, joins Eva virtually from London.
We talk about whether funny can be taught, the Mercutio effect, why a stage show needs heart in a way Seinfeld never did, and Smother, Estee’s new comedy about a Jewish mother who comes back from the dead to get her daughter married. Lana shares how she rebuilt her life after losing her husband at 34, and why she’s now putting her energy into joyful Jewish storytelling. Then it’s a Yiddish lightning round, the Borscht Belt, and a Meme of the Week that asks the only question that matters: who is Donna?
VIDEO CHAPTERS
0:00 Cold open: the snort heard round the studio
1:09 Caroline and Lana’s wedding meet-cute
1:51 “It’s S.D., not Estee”
2:25 Lana introduces Estee
3:51 Women who celebrate each other
4:47 Caroline introduces Lana
6:46 Second acts: what drives you?
7:25 Her uncle created the NYC Marathon
8:59 Speechwriting and the Central Park statue
10:47 Does comedy come from trauma?
12:26 Are we becoming our mothers?
14:48 Smother: a Jewish mother back from the dead
16:51 Can you teach funny?
19:05 What a dramaturg actually does
20:10 Pathos and the Mercutio effect
21:02 Seinfeld vs. The Office vs. Rooster
22:54 Why theater hits different
24:35 Lana’s pivot from law
25:02 Widowed at 34 with two little boys
26:54 “I need you to do me a favor”
28:51 Why Lana is done with Holocaust education
33:07 Zigzag careers and seasons of life
35:28 What October 7th woke up in us
36:00 Are there really only five stories?
38:10 Mother Nature’s a bitch (and epidurals)
38:53 Lightning round: favorite Yiddish word
40:52 Yiddish, the grandparents’ secret language
42:08 Meme of the Week: Who the F*** Is Donna?
44:17 The Borscht Belt and Jewish comedy
44:41 Tuchus afn tish
45:33 Why German still sounds scary
46:12 And scene
SHOWNOTES
Estee Stimler:
https://www.instagram.com/esteestimler/
https://www.esteestimler.com/current-projects
Lana's documentary:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32020404/?_ssoLoop=1
We’re two New York City women talking candidly about the chaos of modern life, from relationships, parenting, working in and out of the home, to what it takes to stay semi-sane in a world that expects you to hold it all together and be #blessed.
We couldn’t find an honest and vulnerable conversation — so we started one! If you need a laugh, a cry, or just want to hear someone else admit their flaws and validate your crazy, you’re in the right place. Be ready to be… Unfiltered, Unafraid, and UnExpert.
Please follow, like, review, and share the podcast with your family and friends!
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Eva wore sneakers to an Oscar de la Renta charity luncheon, and Caroline has thoughts. We get into the social BS that happens in real life, not just online: charity galas, retail philanthropy math, the gala flex, why teens have it harder with Snap Maps, Will Storr's The Status Game, joining boards to get into private school, and whether motive matters if the money is real. Plus JOMO, Tom Wolfe's "Radical Chic," and a Meme of the Week we made with Claude.
Video chapters
0:00 I’m Not Antisocial, I’m Anti–Step and Repeat
1:13 Sneakers at the Oscar de la Renta Benefit
4:17 Retail Philanthropy Math
5:42 The $400 Hermès Raffle
7:00 School Auctions and Status Signaling
8:35 Where Are All the Men?
9:35 “Aware of This?”
10:05 Conspicuous Compassion
11:28 JOMO vs. FOMO
12:59 The Gala Flex
14:02 Teens, FOMO and Snap Maps
15:45 Fake Flex Posts
17:50 The Status Game
20:11 Dominance, Virtue and Success
22:15 $5,000 Tickets for Trees
24:16 Giving Quietly
26:05 Does Motive Matter?
27:00 Word of the Week: Radical Chic
29:05 Meme of the Week (Made by Claude)
Resources
https://nymag.com/docs/07/05/070529radical_chic.pdf
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0374246009?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback
https://www.amazon.com/Status-Game-Social-Position-How/dp/B097TVLKSH/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.CmEQEUtqHyuW8XYZmU5cjmvZI7wrCgjkuzMgA6ieIEAPi7KwbgF6a9s9A2SnZlrfBFU8D55RcgXVv13H22AYwh0MyzgOfynL--cZKXA2pwv7DpJWVyMAfPUgUMt-zFemMM-KtzN4HdWMz_F2v_IUIT_i-l4x-X5ALqKpuMLlclj9iUKA9zyr_3yWLiX8CsDavIz9-768DxFyUEDwDRBsQg.pBI9lU__GMi0PW_Vl80EpKIY3fMpyU7dZStxcUGf4Wo&dib_tag=se&hvadid=694132169225&hvdev=c&hvexpln=67&hvlocphy=9060354&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=13343986586556800428--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=13343986586556800428&hvtargid=kwd-1430420725176&hydadcr=15529_13517374&keywords=the+status+game+by+will+storr&mcid=21c31b9353e539d7a2bfac5160321ebe&qid=1792031877&sr=8-1
We’re two New York City women talking candidly about the chaos of modern life, from relationships, parenting, working in and out of the home, to what it takes to stay semi-sane in a world that expects you to hold it all together and be #blessed.
We couldn’t find an honest and vulnerable conversation — so we started one! If you need a laugh, a cry, or just want to hear someone else admit their flaws and validate your crazy, you’re in the right place. Be ready to be… Unfiltered, Unafraid, and UnExpert.
Please follow, like, review, and share the podcast with your family and friends!
Surgeon General Warning Disclaimer: We are self-prescribed unexperts, so if you have any real questions or need real advice, please call your nearest doctor.
© 2025 Eva Heyman & Caroline Leventhal
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Caroline dresses like a prisoner because, as her grandfather used to say, after 50 years of marriage, "murderers get out earlier."
Eva brings John Gottman's The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work, and we get into the Love Lab, the 5-to-1 rule, the Four Horsemen, the Roach Motel, the mental load, and "just bring socks," why the marriage has to come before the kids, and what happened when we asked Claude for marriage advice.
Plus Book, Meme, and Word of the Week: LARPing.
VIDEO CHAPTERS
00:00 Married 50 Years? Murderers Get Out Earlier
01:00 The Useless Purse Necklace
01:59 Marriage Is All Hints
02:52 Love Is a Verb
03:40 Claude as a Marriage Therapist
04:51 Should You Go to Bed Angry?
05:51 It's Never About the Dishes
07:53 John Gottman's Love Lab
09:39 Solvable vs. Unsolvable Fights
10:17 The 5-to-1 Rule
11:05 The Marriage Is the Unit
12:44 Would You Rather Be Right or Have Peace?
15:01 The Hot Drop
15:38 Happy Wives Live Longer
16:37 Is the Phone the Mistress?
18:20 Hard Talks Happen in the Car
19:55 The Four Horsemen
21:03 "I'm Sorry, But"
22:58 The Roach Motel vs. the Four Seasons
23:26 The Rosh Hashanah Duffel Bag
26:53 The Dolomites Fight
27:15 "Just Bring Socks" and the Mental Load
28:45 The Forgotten EpiPen
29:28 Burn the Backpack
34:13 Nurture Fondness and Admiration
34:51 Are Women Wired to Test Their Husbands?
36:30 70% of Marriage Is Friendship
39:02 Husband Before Kids?
41:21 Living With the In-Laws
43:09 Breaking the Broken Record
45:39 Book and Meme of the Week
46:43 Word of the Week: LARPing
48:05 "We Need to Talk"
We’re two New York City women talking candidly about the chaos of modern life, from relationships, parenting, working in and out of the home, to what it takes to stay semi-sane in a world that expects you to hold it all together and be #blessed.
We couldn’t find an honest and vulnerable conversation — so we started one! If you need a laugh, a cry, or just want to hear someone else admit their flaws and validate your crazy, you’re in the right place. Be ready to be… Unfiltered, Unafraid, and UnExpert.
Please follow, like, review, and share the podcast with your family and friends!
Surgeon General Warning Disclaimer: We are self-prescribed unexperts, so if you have any real questions or need real advice, please call your nearest doctor.
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Eva and Caroline go all in on American politics this week — a full hour tracing how the Democratic and Republican parties got to where they are today, from the Clinton and Reagan eras through to now. They get personal about their own political journeys, including a confession about a 2016 vote that wasn't exactly popular among friends at the time, and what actually changed after October 7th. The conversation moves through antisemitism and why it's a warning sign worth everyone's attention, the "surplus elite" theory of why so many overeducated, high-achieving people are drawn toward the far left, the role social media plays in deepening our echo chambers, and a candid, personal take on losing friendships over who voted for whom.
In this episode:
CHAPTERS
0:00 — Welcome
2:16 — Why America Still Matters
5:48 — The Democrats: The Clinton Era
8:29 — Obama, Immigration, and the ACA
17:36 — The Left's Shift: Bernie, the Squad, and Media Reactions
22:17 — 2016, Trump, and Learning to Listen
23:25 — The Republicans: Reagan to Trump
29:02 — Trump's Character, COVID Media, and October 7th
31:54 — Media Trust, Hillary, and Biden's Decline
38:17 — Antisemitism, Social Media, and Radicalization
40:43 — What Each Party Actually Stands For
44:10 — Closing Thoughts and Call to Vote
44:51 — Mic Drop
Resources mentioned:
We’re two New York City women talking candidly about the chaos of modern life, from relationships, parenting, working in and out of the home, to what it takes to stay semi-sane in a world that expects you to hold it all together and be #blessed.
We couldn’t find an honest and vulnerable conversation — so we started one! If you need a laugh, a cry, or just want to hear someone else admit their flaws and validate your crazy, you’re in the right place. Be ready to be… Unfiltered, Unafraid, and UnExpert.
Please follow, like, review, and share the podcast with your family and friends!
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Organizational psychologist Alison Fragale (author of Likable Badass) explains why hiring help is essential for your sanity, not a luxury. She breaks down how she outsources childcare, cleaning, and errands without the guilt, why she hires a "third parent" instead of a nanny, and how to give feedback to the people who help you.
In this episode:
Book of the week: Likable Badass by Alison Fragale [AMAZON LINK]
Connect with Alison: [LINKS]
Chapters
0:00 Welcome, Alison Fragale
3:02 What makes a likable badass
4:50 Always go first (the $300 couch)
9:16 It takes a village
12:17 It's not about money, it's a mindset
14:37 Why it's okay to go "in the red" on childcare
18:13 The guilt of outsourcing
21:35 You're not exploiting anyone: the market reframe
22:34 Care.com, TaskRabbit, and the contractor mindset
25:51 Hire a "third parent"
28:00 How to give feedback without the awkwardness
30:22 Ask what they love and hate doing
31:49 Skip the agency? Alison's hiring philosophy
35:14 "If you leave for another nanny job, I failed you"
36:11 Founder's mentality and the 80% rule
39:27 What else can you outsource?
43:14 Where does your husband fit in?
47:44 The day the movers changed his mind
50:36 Keep a bench of five sitters
53:03 Why you should overpay sitters
57:01 Book of the week: Likable Badass
1:01:50 Meme of the week
We’re two New York City women talking candidly about the chaos of modern life, from relationships, parenting, working in and out of the home, to what it takes to stay semi-sane in a world that expects you to hold it all together and be #blessed.
We couldn’t find an honest and vulnerable conversation — so we started one! If you need a laugh, a cry, or just want to hear someone else admit their flaws and validate your crazy, you’re in the right place. Be ready to be… Unfiltered, Unafraid, and UnExpert.
Please follow, like, review, and share the podcast with your family and friends!
Surgeon General Warning Disclaimer: We are self-prescribed unexperts, so if you have any real questions or need real advice, please call your nearest doctor.
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This week Caroline is still getting the hang of driving in Miami, which somehow opens into the real subject of the episode: a week full of milestones. Caroline's son Teddy turned 10 — double digits, closer to college than to the day he was born — and Eva just finished dropping her second son off at college. Eva and Caroline talk through why the second college goodbye is harder than the first, the pressure to perform a "perfect dorm room" online, and a reframe from Claude that changed how Caroline thinks about mom guilt: being present isn't a character trait; it's a battery, and nobody runs on full all the time. Along the way: a very good Uber story, a case for "benign neglect," and why Miami parenting anxiety looks nothing like New York City parenting anxiety.
Eva's book of the week is Culpability, by Bruce Holsinger, about who's responsible when a self-driving car crashes with a teenager behind the wheel, and her new favorite phrase is "slowmaxxing" — the art of a slow, unhurried morning.
Chapters:
0:00 Welcome & Miami Driving Chaos
3:46 The Milestones: Teddy Turns 10 & Sandy Goes to College
10:18 Why the Second Goodbye Hits Harder
16:34 Being Present Isn't a Character Trait — It's a Battery
18:15 Mom Guilt, Benign Neglect & Growing Up in NYC vs. Miami
23:55 The Best Uber Ride Ever (More Miami Driving Mishaps)
25:44 Word of the Week: Slow Maxing
29:27 Self-Driving Cars & Our Book of the Week: Culpability
32:16 Wrap-Up & Goodbyes
We’re two New York City women talking candidly about the chaos of modern life, from relationships, parenting, working in and out of the home, to what it takes to stay semi-sane in a world that expects you to hold it all together and be #blessed.
We couldn’t find an honest and vulnerable conversation — so we started one! If you need a laugh, a cry, or just want to hear someone else admit their flaws and validate your crazy, you’re in the right place. Be ready to be… Unfiltered, Unafraid, and UnExpert.
Please follow, like, review, and share the podcast with your family and friends!
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This week we're joined by Amanda Kingloff — craft stylist, former Lifestyle Director at Parents magazine, founder of ProjectKid, and author of the new book The Art of Jewish Joy: Crafts and Activities for Celebration and Connection (Chronicle Books), co-written with Suzy Ultman.
We talk about why grown-ups forget how to play, what it means to "unlearn" the conventional use of a bottle cap, and how Amanda went from a pre-med, photography-major mindset to building a career out of arts and crafts. Then we get into the real heart of it: how October 7th sent Amanda back into her own Jewish identity, why she and her husband quietly walked away from synagogue-based Judaism as adults, and how she and Suzy built a book that renames every holiday chapter after the value inside it — the Art of Self-Reflection (Rosh Hashanah/Yom Kippur), the Art of Shining Bright (Hanukkah), the Art of Honoring Freedom (Passover), the Art of Grit and Grace (Purim).
Also covered: the Sukkot tradition of leaving the corners of a field unharvested for the poor, why you cover the challah before kiddush, Amanda's daughter's snow-globe Halloween costume, and Eva's new favorite phrase, "achievement cheap."
0:00 Welcome
0:13 Meet Amanda Kingloff — craft stylist & author
2:31 Why Grown-Ups Forget How to Play
6:23 Halloween Costumes & the DIY Shelf Wall
8:08 October 7th and Finding Her Way Back to Judaism
10:47 The Yom Kippur Ritual in the Park
15:22 The Book Reveal: The Art of Jewish Joy
19:33 Why We Cover the Challah
20:17 Sukkot: The Unharvested Corners
21:28 Back to Crafting: Mind Maps & Painted Shabbat Rocks
24:08 "Achievement Sheep"
28:05 The Camp Award Story
28:56 Renaming the Holidays: Self-Reflection, Shining Bright & Grit and Grace
32:18 Wrap-Up & Where to Find the Book
The Art of Jewish Joy is out now from Chronicle Books. https://www.chroniclebooks.com/products/art-of-jewish-joy?srsltid=AfmBOoqvL5Dqy0WX9DUxcXkpL_ZasyahTTje2GehaYjSAD4PnPRRRN79
Find Amanda at @amandakingloff and Suzy at @suzyultman.
We’re two New York City women talking candidly about the chaos of modern life, from relationships, parenting, working in and out of the home, to what it takes to stay semi-sane in a world that expects you to hold it all together and be #blessed.
We couldn’t find an honest and vulnerable conversation — so we started one! If you need a laugh, a cry, or just want to hear someone else admit their flaws and validate your crazy, you’re in the right place. Be ready to be… Unfiltered, Unafraid, and UnExpert.
Please follow, like, review, and share the podcast with your family and friends!
Surgeon General Warning Disclaimer: We are self-prescribed unexperts, so if you have any real questions or need real advice, please call your nearest doctor.
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This week, Eva and Caroline debut a brand new format — split screen, Eva in New York, Caroline two weeks into her move to Miami — and cover a lot of ground.
They talk about Hayden Panettiere's sudden death, which sent Eva down a Nashville rewatch and into a bigger conversation about what fame does to child stars.
Caroline breaks down her new commute, her "sixth borough" theory of South Florida, and an airport observation that turns into a real debate about immigration and the economy.
They also get into current events, whether Jeremy is allowed to own more than one backpack, and what it actually means to be a "true New Yorker" once you've left.
Episode Chapters
0:00 Welcome: New Split-Screen Format (Miami + NYC)
3:40 "Don't Elsa Your Hair": Grays & Bunny's Overdue Grooming
5:32 Is Miami Really the South? The "Sixth Borough" Theory
7:34 JFK, Wheelchairs & the Immigration Economy
9:25 Solo in Miami: Driving, No Help, Learning the Flow
12:19 New Mantras: "I'm in a Miami State of Mind"
17:58 Books, the Gnome & What Makes a "True New Yorker"
22:36 NYC Politics, Mamdani & Current Events
25:08 Is Jeremy Happy in Florida? (And His Backpack Problem)
29:55 Why We Moved: Building Resilience in the Kids
30:48 Hayden Panettiere, Nashville & Bingeing Soap Operas
35:37 Child Stars and Family Pressure
37:26 Love and Hugs and Sign Off
Show Notes
Jay Shetty Podcast with HAYDEN PANETTIERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs6x8VUGXCw
Nashville TV Series: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2281375/
We’re two New York City women talking candidly about the chaos of modern life, from relationships, parenting, working in and out of the home, to what it takes to stay semi-sane in a world that expects you to hold it all together and be #blessed.
We couldn’t find an honest and vulnerable conversation — so we started one! If you need a laugh, a cry, or just want to hear someone else admit their flaws and validate your crazy, you’re in the right place. Be ready to be… Unfiltered, Unafraid, and UnExpert.
Please follow, like, review, and share the podcast with your family and friends!
Surgeon General Warning Disclaimer: We are self-prescribed unexperts, so if you have any real questions or need real advice, please call your nearest doctor.
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Award-winning Napa Valley winemaker Ashley Hepworth joins Mic'd and Medicated to talk wine tasting tips, how to order wine at a restaurant, and 23 years working at Joseph Phelps Winery. Ashley — who also happens to be Caroline's sister-in-law — walks us through her path from Charlie Trotter's kitchen in Chicago to launching her own wine labels, A Bloom rosé and AH Wine (Rutherford Cabernet Sauvignon). Plus: growing up outdoorsy in Denver, marrying into a Jewish family as a self-described "1% Jewish shiksa," and surviving chaotic in-law family dinners. A conversation about wine, identity, and family — unfiltered, unafraid, unexpert.
Ashley's wines:
Abloomwine.com
Aaitchwine.com
We’re two New York City women talking candidly about the chaos of modern life, from relationships, parenting, working in and out of the home, to what it takes to stay semi-sane in a world that expects you to hold it all together and be #blessed.
We couldn’t find an honest and vulnerable conversation — so we started one! If you need a laugh, a cry, or just want to hear someone else admit their flaws and validate your crazy, you’re in the right place. Be ready to be… Unfiltered, Unafraid, and UnExpert.
Please follow, like, review, and share the podcast with your family and friends!
Surgeon General Warning Disclaimer: We are self-prescribed unexperts, so if you have any real questions or need real advice, please call your nearest doctor.
© 2025 Eva Heyman & Caroline Leventhal
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You have thought it. We said it. Out loud. On a microphone. For everyone.
Mic'd and Medicated is Caroline and Eva — two married moms in New York City who refuse to pretend everything…
They overshare on purpose. Because every time they say the thing nobody is supposed to say, someone writes in and says — I thought I was the only one. You are not the only one. That is the whole point.
Guests range from reproductive endocrinologists to celebrity jewelers to politicians to parenting experts who are also, like everyone else, completely figuring it out as they go.
Funny. Honest. Occasionally chaotic. Always real.
This is not a podcast for women who have it together. This is a podcast for women who are done pretending they do.
New episodes every Thursday. Unfiltered. Unafraid. Unexpert.