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Michael Irvin on Cowboys Wins, Jerry Jones, Thanksgiving in Dallas & Super Bowl?


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The 3x Super Bowl Champ, Hall of Famer, and one and only, Playmaker, Michael Irvin sits down with Ryan and Channing after Dallas' big win vs Minnesota to talk everything Cowboys, Jerry Jones, his dominant era and a deep dive into how his upbringing shaped the man he is today.


With Fred away for the holidays, Ryan taps in his playmaker’s partner to join the Pivot to kick off Thanksgiving week with all eyes on Irvin’s Dallas Cowboys to keep up their winning ways. Extremely fired up, Michael can't help share his excitement around this year's Cowboys team and how the meter is hot for this roster to go all the way this season, Championship or bust!


Sharing his own memories from playing on Thanksgiving, Michael talks about the infamous Leon Lett moment, playing against Randy Moss and what the city of Dallas was like after the big Thursday game. Opening up about his love and respect for Jerry Jones and his close relationship with former coach, Jimmy Johnson, Michael goes in-depth on how it was just playing football in Dallas it became his way of life, sense of family and purpose.


Ryan asks if it was always Dallas for him and Michael shares how he had a special connection to the team as a child from his late father who would watch the games growing up with him. One of 16 kids, Michael learned the importance of teamwork and sacrifice early in life and used it to help propel him to the next level in athletics. Explaining the lineage and meaning of new beginnings behind wearing #88 and how Drew Pearson was the first but Michael wanted to continue to make that the premiere jersey number on the Cowboys for decades to come which he has.


Ryan jokes about Michael saying, “If you can’t help me win, you can’t be my friend,” as he talks about wanting to be surrounded by teammates on the Cowboys who had the same unwavering commitment in winning a Super Bowl As he did. If he found out a teammate didn’t align with this same mission, he wasn’t afraid to let it be known to the coaching staff or the player. On the road to three championships and a hall of fame career, Michael had to face greats such as Deion Sanders defensively and Randy Moss who was always in the shadows to be the next best at his position. Michael shares a few stories from the times competing against them and the respect he has for other receivers who may be more physically gifted but given the chance would trade careers with him if they had the chance, specifically citing Randy Moss.


Michael has high hopes for this year's Cowboys team and talks about how they don't realize how talented they are sometimes which could be a weakness for them down the stretch. Attributing his success to three special women in his life, his mom, his mother-in-law and aunt, Michael says being able to experience the highs of life with them and travel the world has been the highlight of his life.


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