A World Appears by Michael Pollan is a fascinating meditation on the mysterious world we live in. Michael joins us to talk about sentience, theory of mind, AI, hubris, computers vs human brains, faith, immersive journalism and more with cohost Chris Gillespie.

This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Chris Gillespie and mixed by Harry Liang.

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