In this episode of the "To the Point cybersecurity podcast," hosts Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepper dive into a compelling conversation with Michele Rigby Assad, a former CIA intelligence officer with vast experience in The Middle East. Michele shares insights from her latest book, "Get Off the X," which explores the importance of getting out of one's comfort zone and reassessing effectiveness in both personal and professional contexts. The discussion navigates the complexities of the current threat landscape, highlighting the dangers posed by nation-states like Iran and China, and the evolving challenges in cybersecurity.

Michele underscores the significance of collaboration between public and private sectors to tackle these threats. With her background in intelligence, Michele offers a unique perspective on the interplay between traditional espionage techniques and modern technology, including the role of social engineering and the challenges of artificial intelligence in amplifying cyber threats. Tune in for an enlightening conversation about the need for innovation, proactive measures, and adept leadership in the realm of global cybersecurity.

For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e323