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October 23Indiana = A MUST WIN Game? / Michigan Wolverines Call-in Show LIVE 110
Michigan Wolverines Call-in Show LIVE 110
Indiana = A MUST WIN Game?
Hosts: John D’Adamo (guest host, subbing for TJ Ronin) & Johnny Olden Jr.
Presented by FanDuel
Aired on MichiganVOCFB
Opening & Sponsor (00:01:32 – ~00:03:00)
John D’Adamo opens, notes he’s not TJ, and welcomes Johnny Olden Jr. They highlight the big weekend ahead for Michigan to keep momentum.
FanDuel segment: Indiana favored by 7.5, over/under 41.5. Both lean toward Michigan covering or winning outright (or keeping it close). Johnny predicts a lower-scoring, old-school Big Ten game; John goes 27-24. They reference the prior Indiana guest (Alec Keezer) and Michigan support on the Tuesday show.
Tommy Carr Spark & Energy Shift (00:03:00 – ~00:06:30)
Discussion of the Penn State game second-half shift when Tommy Carr entered: energy, enthusiasm, and vibe changed for players, coaches, and fans. Johnny praises Carr’s patience on the option (waiting for commitment, fake pitch, cut-up). They note the defense needs hope from the offense. John stresses the need for Carr to stay composed.
Super Chats, Membership Push & “Rip” Situation (~00:07:00 – ~00:09:00)
Reminder to like, subscribe (MichiganVOCFB + Johnny Olden), and hit the bell. Super Chat updates toward unlocking a second hour.
They address Super Chats joking about “set Rip free,” defending TJ’s decision and urging the community to move on from the situation (including mentions of attacks on co-hosts and Michelle’s Monday show).
Main Topic: Indiana as a Must-Win for Whittingham (~00:09:00 – ~00:20:00+)
John introduces the show’s long-standing view that lame-duck AD Ward Manuel (leaving in ~2 months) and President Cybele Raver’s impending AD hire would give Whittingham runway into 2027. New donor-side feedback changes that: Indiana is now viewed as a must-win.
Key points:
Program expectation of 10-2 / elite status every year.

Massive roster investment (~$40M cited).

Unacceptable losses: Minnesota (then walloped by Purdue) and near-miss vs. Western Michigan. Iowa last-play loss more understandable given Ferentz.

Discipline issues, pre-snap penalties, and failure to implement scheme changes (pistol, more inside/outside zone concepts) earlier.

Johnny (already “out” on Whittingham) stresses the new era of college football (Cignetti effect): short leashes, ROI expectations from big money, no multi-year rebuilds.

Criticism of Whittingham’s press-conference demeanor (lacks fire, looks beaten down, doesn’t project leadership/confidence like Cignetti, Chesney, or past fiery coaches).

Scheme note: Recent pistol/gap concepts and Carr operating them looked more like prior Michigan/Sharon-style football; linemen (e.g., Garnera) blocking better with muscle memory.

Prediction: Michigan can win with a competent, Cade McNamara-style game-manager QB (checkdowns, protect the ball, take what’s there). Defense is strong enough.
Clip-worthy: Donor must-win framing; Whittingham press-conference critique; “old era is dead” / Cignetti comparison; Carr’s option execution praise.
Caller: Underwood Unleashed (~00:20:00 – ~00:35:00)
Early Tommy Carr believer. Excited for a “new season” feel. Agrees on needing McNamara-level production and ball security. Predicts a Michigan win but acknowledges Indiana is tough.
Discussion points:
Trick plays / flea flicker possibilities.

Josh Hoover (Indiana QB) due for interception regression (career pick-prone; recent near-misses vs. Nebraska/OSU that defenses didn’t capitalize on). Michigan secondary needs to finish plays.

Defensive line must stop the run and pressure Hoover (Nick Marsh, Becker, etc.). Pass rush (Daly, Nichols) has cooled—likely injury-related.

Secondary matchups (Jair Hill on Becker, Zeke on Marsh, Snowden on Morris, etc.). Indiana’s two high-end receivers make it tougher than OSU’s single-star focus.

Injury report skepticism (Michigan “questionables” usually play; Indiana’s empty report is questioned).

Donor must-win confirmation and frustration over Bryce Underwood being kept in too long (should have been 6-0 and ranked).

Run game (Marshall, Heider, Kuzdal + Carr) is key to making the QB’s job easier; third-and-short vs. third-and-long.

Scheme (Ozempic Rhino / more 11 personnel for levels) and protecting Carr.

Turnover battle (Indiana has won 31 straight).
Clip-worthy: Hoover regression/turnovers; “if we make them one-dimensional we have a real chance”; Carr as field general.
Additional Discussion & Later Callers (mid-show through ~01:50+)
Continued focus on:
Whittingham needing more visible fire (sideline intensity vs. press conferences).

Bryce Underwood’s limitations, NIL/social media factors, new system struggles, and likely portal destination (sit-and-learn year at a place like Oregon/LSU). Respect for his attitude on the sideline.

Identity and culture: Getting back to “Michigan football,” standards, and playing for the state.

Scheme evolution (pistol, less pure East-West to mask Underwood issues).

Callers (including Big J-Twenty-Eight, Keith Rebar, and others) reinforce optimism around Carr as a poised field general, the defense, and the need to avoid penalties/self-inflicted issues. Keith notes the rapid QB upgrade and argues Carr may now be the better QB on Saturday depending on Hoover’s health.

Rapid-fire segment and Super Chat wrap-up as the show approaches the two-hour mark.
Closing Segment (~02:00:00 – 02:10+)
Reiterates Indiana as a must-win with donor expectations; a loss would likely start a coaching-search drip. Path to the playoff remains open with a win (subsequent opponents have QB issues or are weaker).
Final thoughts emphasize coming together, shocking the world, and Carr distributing to weapons.
Upcoming: Saturday postgame live (TJ back); Johnny’s other shows (Maniacs/House Divided Saturday morning; Sunday call-in).
Sign-off: “Always go blue and fuck Ohio.”
Overall Key Takeaways
Central thesis: Indiana is framed as a job-on-the-line game for Kyle Whittingham due to donor ROI pressure, recent losses (especially Minnesota), and the lame-duck AD situation.

Optimism source: Tommy Carr’s composure, the defensive ceiling, and a simplified “Cade McNamara / field general” offensive approach.

Concerns: Penalties/discipline, pass-rush consistency, Indiana’s receivers and turnover streak, and Whittingham’s public demeanor.

Tone: Cautiously optimistic about Saturday but realistic that a loss shifts the program into coaching-search mode. Community energy is high around Carr.

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October 21Whitt's SECRET QB PLAN to Beat Indiana / Michigan Wolverines LIVE 272
Michigan Wolverines LIVE Episode 272: Whitt’s SECRET QB PLAN to Beat Indiana
Hosts: John D’Adamo & TJ Rona=in | Guest: Alec Keezer (IndianaVOCFB) | Presented by FanDuel
Opening & Breaking News (~00:01:41–00:07:00)
Episode 272 opens with the tease: “Does Kyle Whittingham have a secret quarterback plan to beat Indiana?”

John and TJ welcome viewers; call for likes, subs, shares, and Super Chats.

Reports (Matt Zenitz / Yahoo / Nacos) indicate Tommy Carr will start vs. Indiana. Whittingham has not publicly named him. Hosts note it was never truly a secret after the Penn State game.

TJ: “A new era is upon us… It really starts this Saturday.” Optimism after the Penn State appetizer, but not “all-in” on running the table yet. Still things to prove.
QB Situation & Handling of the Switch (~00:07:00–00:12:00)
Whittingham told media he watched the film before deciding and refused to name a starter. Hosts respect the process even if the outcome looked obvious on the field.

Bryce had his chance to respond after Minnesota and “sank.” The switch was handled properly so the locker room wasn’t lost. Bryce showed maturity by supporting Tommy.

Hosts wish Bryce well (potential transfer, sit a year, ball out in 2028). He dealt with a lot (new offense, no dedicated QB coach, etc.).

Key point: Film made the decision even clearer. No sabotage of Bryce; the data and plays showed the difference.
Offensive Evolution & Data (Jason Beck) (~00:12:00–00:20:00)
Positive signs of Beck adapting after the bye. More inside zone / between-the-tackles running, some pistol, and better use of 11 personnel (XI).

Charting (shout-out Chuck and Wolverine Casual):
Bryce: ~24 snaps, ~45% Rhino.

Tommy: ~30 snaps, ~50% Rhino.

Success was clearly higher in 11 personnel, especially running the ball. Over-max / Rhino protection produced the least.

Pre-Penn State: Heavy outside/east-west. Vs. Penn State: Evolved to ~45% between the tackles (or charts showing ~58% outside pre-game vs. lower after).

Hosts: “The players are better in pistol, I-formation, and XI personnel.” Don’t need zero Rhino, but far less. Beck is showing growth and not staying stubborn. Big Ten defenses (downhill) require this vs. his prior Big 12 success.
Film Breakdown Highlights (~00:21:00–00:35:00)
Bryce’s final play (3rd & 1, ~32 seconds left in 1st half): Protection was fine. Reckless 50/50 throw into coverage while trying to take the lead. Hogan Hansen open across the middle; Bryce not looking that way. This was the “nail in the coffin” after the earlier missed lob. Hosts: “You just sank, Bryce.”

Tommy’s first plays: Penn State went double-high safety / played off (unknown threat). 11-personnel RPOs with multiple options. Quicker decisions and more space.

Pistol look + Kudstal TD run: Runner gets a head of steam. Excellent O-line push (Afobee and Garnera highlighted) creating a big A-gap hole. Kudstal shows cuts, balance, and second-level burst. Hosts: “This felt like the Natty-year Michigan football.” More pistol wanted going forward.

Overall: O-line and run game looked improved. PFF grades and eye test both trending up. Sample size caveat (Penn State run defense not elite), so Indiana will be the real test.
Mid-Show Discussion & Community (~00:35:00–01:12:00)
Continued talk on youth of the roster (OL, DL, LBs, skill) and 2027 looking very strong. Staff has been aware of the future talent.

Super Chats, community shout-outs (respect for other Michigan outlets/Blueprint, no “site wars”), and general optimism mixed with realism.

Note: John briefly dropped out at one point; light technical/banter moments.
Guest Segment: Alec Keezer (IndianaVOCFB) (~01:12:45–end of main discussion)
Alec joins (voice a bit rough from a wedding weekend). Positive exchange between the shows.

Indiana’s perspective:
Run game has not been consistently effective vs. better defenses (OSU, Nebraska). Heavy reliance on Josh Hoover.

Belief in Hoover’s arm and ability to win games if efficiency ticks up. Nick Marsh and outside weapons are dangerous if corners are left alone.

Brian Haynes defense is a different beast. Special teams and kicking can swing a close Big Ten game.

Indiana hasn’t beaten Michigan in Ann Arbor since 1967.

Keys for Indiana: Passing-game efficiency, keep Michigan off balance, force turnovers, trench play, discipline. Don’t let Michigan dictate.

Keys for Michigan (hosts + Alec discussion): Win turnover margin, stop the run / make them one-dimensional, Jason Beck continues evolution (XI, pistol, more north-south), come out hot, play disciplined (penalties have hurt them), leverage Tommy’s dual-threat/game-manager traits (~64% completion + legs), get the pass rush going.

Score predictions:
Alec: Indiana 19-11 (defensive battle, weird one; over/under around 40 is too high in his view).

TJ / John: Michigan in a close home win (around 27-24 range). Home field matters; Michigan improving but Indiana is the better test.
Closing & Housekeeping (~02:10:00–02:21:55)
Thursday 8 p.m. ET call-in show (John hosting). Saturday postgame live. Mondays at 7 p.m. ET with TJ & Michelle.

Plans to be in Ann Arbor for the Michigan State game (looking for a venue for postgame / fan gathering).

Community note: Longtime chat member banned after repeated disrespect toward co-hosts (TJ addressed it directly). Tolerance has limits.

Final: “Go Blue and fuck Ohio.” Excitement if they beat Indiana; season outlook opens up.
Overall Tone: Cautious optimism after the Tommy Carr spark and Beck’s early adjustments. Real test is Indiana’s defense and physicality. Data and film support the direction, but execution and continued evolution are required.

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2 hr 21 min
October 20Get in the Carr & Beat Indiana! - Michigan Mondays
Episode Notes: Get in the Carr & Beat Indiana! – Michigan Mondays
Hosts: TJ Ronin & Michelle | MichiganVOCFB | Aired ~October 19, 2026 (post-Penn State win, previewing Indiana)
Quick Overview
Victory Monday after Michigan’s win over Penn State. Core focus is the mid-game QB switch from Bryce Underwood to Tommy Carr (who sparked the offense and the stadium), Jason Beck’s evolving play-calling (more north-south/inside runs), the healthy QB-room dynamic, Michigan’s elite defense, and a high-stakes Indiana preview. Win vs. Indiana would shift the season narrative and put Michigan firmly in the College Football Playoff conversation. Strong optimism around Carr as the starter going forward.
Key Timestamps & Clip-Friendly Segments
01:42–04:00 – Michelle’s Ann Arbor weekend recap (perfect weather, electric atmosphere when Carr entered, post-game at Connor O’Neill’s watching Notre Dame collapse). Strong vibes clip.

04:43–09:00 – TJ’s breakdown of the Underwood-to-Carr decision: gave Bryce the chance to respond after Minnesota; he sank; Carr’s insertion was the correct progression. Bryce’s support for Carr in the second half highlighted.

09:43–13:00 – Wolverine Casual charting data: 45% of run plays between the tackles (vs. 14% season average); better success and explosives in 11 personnel vs. Rhino; Beck showing growth. Visual-friendly stats segment.

13:05–17:30 – Michelle on Carr’s performance (mobility, accuracy, meeting elevated expectations as a freshman); TJ on full investment in Carr for this year and the next two.

19:00–22:00 – TJ’s defense of the process (Bryce responded after Western Michigan, sank vs. Minnesota, supported Carr). Locker-room dynamics and why the runway approach was right.

~26:30–29:00 – Tommy Carr rest-of-season outlook; only 11 days younger than Bryce; healthy room; potential for occasional dual-QB or wildcat usage.

39:50–42:00 – Kuzdal vs. Marshall fit discussion (Kuzdal as one-cut/power option if going north-south).

43:47–46:30 – Michigan Hockey side note (swept #1 Denver; championship-or-bust year; last title 1998).

43:52–48:00 – Indiana as the narrative-changer: playoff talk becomes real with a win; Big Ten landscape is wide open (QB injuries at Ohio State, Oregon uncertainty, etc.).

49:50–56:00 – Indiana preview numbers: 31st total offense / 25th scoring; 10th defense (strong rush D); Michigan’s offensive rankings are pre-Carr and thus outdated. Emphasis on avoiding East-West, protecting Carr, and winning the turnover battle.

59:40–1:02:00 – Defense confidence (short fields, turnovers vs. Penn State); Indiana’s reliance on explosives and third-down issues (1-for-10 vs. Nebraska); Jay Hill’s prior experience vs. Josh Hoover.

1:05:00–1:07:30 – Additional Wolverine Casual charts (A/B gap % and yards per carry pre- vs. post-Penn State; outside runs still inefficient).

1:08:50–end – Closing: full investment in Carr; Beat Indiana and the fan base gets loud. Michelle’s channel (@michelle4040) and Monday 7 p.m. ET slot.
Core Discussion Points & Analysis
QB Situation & Process
TJ and Michelle both viewed the Underwood-to-Carr switch as handled correctly. Bryce was given the runway to respond after Minnesota (following a solid response stretch after Western Michigan). He did not produce in the first half (two picks, missed layups). Carr entered, executed cleanly, and the team’s energy and execution rose. Bryce’s visible support for Carr was noted as a positive locker-room sign. Full commitment to Carr is now expected for the rest of this season and the next two years. Whittingham’s comments on Carr’s football IQ and work ethic were highlighted. Dual-QB or wildcat concepts (Bryce as a decoy or in limited packages) were discussed as possible but not primary.
Jason Beck & Offensive Identity
Data (via Wolverine Casual charting) showed a clear shift: 45% of run plays between the tackles (vs. 14% season average), higher success and explosives in 11 personnel. Outside/East-West runs remained inefficient. Both hosts stressed that Michigan’s offensive line and personnel are built for downhill, between-the-tackles running. Continued growth from Beck is viewed as essential against Indiana’s front. Penalties and self-inflicted errors also appeared cleaned up.
Tommy Carr Outlook
High expectations tempered by sample size (two quarters plus limited prior snaps). Michelle was impressed by his mobility, accuracy, and composure relative to the elevated expectations created by Underwood’s struggles. TJ stressed responsible ball security and executing what the offense gives him more than superstar play against Indiana. Freshman moments are possible; the same developmental standards applied to Bryce now apply to Carr.
Defense
Consistently praised as elite (#1 in yards per play). Generated short fields and turnovers vs. Penn State. Hosts expressed high confidence it can limit Indiana’s explosive-play reliance, though third-down efficiency and containment of mobile elements remain key.
Indiana Preview (Key Game)
Indiana offense is mid-pack (31st total, 25th scoring); defense is strong (10th nationally, elite vs. the run).

Michigan’s pre-Carr offensive rankings are largely irrelevant now.

Success path: more inside runs, protect Carr, win the turnover battle, and let the defense do its job.

Emotional edge: Michigan is energized at home after the Carr spark; Indiana is coming off a loss and unfamiliar with that mental state under Cignetti.

A win makes playoff conversation realistic given the open Big Ten landscape (Ohio State QB uncertainty, Oregon questions, other results). Losses to Minnesota and Iowa are acknowledged but contextualized.
Other
Michigan Hockey’s sweep of Denver noted as a strong side story. Super chats and chart shout-outs (Wolverine Casual) throughout. Closing energy is high: “Beat Indiana and let’s talk some shit.”
Notable Quotes
Michelle on the stadium when Carr entered: “It was a very distinct moment when everyone kind of realized it and everything shifted… I cannot fully describe the pop of energy.”

TJ on the process: “You allowed Bryce to fail. And then Tommy Carr got his opportunity… the proper approach was had.”

Michelle on Carr: “The way that he met the moment was so impressive to me as a freshman.”

TJ on Michigan’s ceiling: “The only thing that’s going to stop Michigan right now is Michigan.”

On Indiana: “If we win, the narrative of the season changes… Playoffs become a real conversation.”
Overall Takeaways
Michigan feels like it turned a corner with the Carr insertion and Beck’s increased willingness to run inside. The defense remains the program’s clearest strength. Indiana is the next proving ground—both for Carr’s ability to handle a top-10 defense with a week of prep and for whether Beck sticks with the more physical run identity. A win elevates the season from “intriguing” to “playoff-relevant”; a loss keeps the self-inflicted-loss narrative alive. Optimism is high but grounded in the need for continued offensive growth and clean execution.

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1 hr 10 min
October 19 BREAKING: Bryce FINALLY Benched for Carr / MICHIGAN - Penn State Postgame LIVE Part 3
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October 19 BREAKING: Bryce FINALLY Benched for Carr / MICHIGAN - Penn State Postgame LIVE Part 2
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October 19 BREAKING: Bryce FINALLY Benched for Carr / MICHIGAN - Penn State Postgame LIVE Part 1
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October 17The Pressure Is On! – Michigan Wolverines Call-in Show LIVE 109
The Pressure Is On! – Michigan Wolverines Call-in Show LIVE 109
Hosts: TJ Ronin, Johnny Olden Jr.
Guest: Chuck (College Football Chuck)
Aired on: MichiganVOCFB
Focus: Penn State at Michigan preview, Bryce Underwood/Tommy Carr debate, Jason Beck offense critique, film breakdown of Minnesota game, and overall team concerns entering the bye-week game.
Show Overview
The episode centers on the high-stakes Penn State at Michigan matchup (spread ~6.5), a frustrated and divided Michigan fan base (roughly 70/30 on Bryce Underwood vs. Tommy Carr), and deep film-based analysis of offensive struggles. Chuck provides a broader college football perspective on Kyle Whittingham’s and Jason Beck’s learning curve, while hosts and callers emphasize that the issues are systemic—not solely on Underwood. Ticket giveaway, FanDuel sponsorship, and midweek portal additions (e.g., Jeremiah Irby) are also covered. Tone is candid, film-heavy, and increasingly urgent about needing results out of the bye.
Timestamped Key Segments & Notes
~00:01:31 – 00:05:30 | Intro, FanDuel Shoutout & Penn State Game Takes
Hosts introduce Chuck. Immediate focus on Penn State at Michigan. All three lean Michigan.
Chuck: Takes Michigan after film study; sees little Penn State does well and views a loss as a rough sign for the rest of the season.

Johnny: Takes Michigan off fandom but calls it a pick’em; notes Michigan doesn’t exploit opponents’ weaknesses well (especially running the ball).

TJ: Takes Michigan to cover; hopes Kyle Whittingham has the team ready. Concerns about Michigan’s inability to score.
Key quote (Chuck): “I watch Penn State and there’s nothing they do well… I don’t see how Penn State has something that Michigan can’t handle.”
~00:04:15 – 00:05:40 | Ticket Giveaway Announcement
Two sets of Row 6 tickets for the Penn State game. Requirements: membership, follow, repost, comment “Go Blue” with username. First winner already determined (DetroitLionSixteen / Christian); second drawn at end of show (Xavier Ely).
~00:06:00 – 00:10:00 | Fan Base Frustration & Overall Team Outlook
TJ notes Twitter frustration and a 70/30 split favoring Tommy Carr over Bryce Underwood. Asks Chuck for wide-view take.
Chuck is concerned about the learning phase for Whittingham (new to Michigan) and Beck (scheme/personnel fit). Risks of a 6-6 or 5-7 season, portal/QB questions, and whether the learning curve ends before things spiral.

Surprise at execution level given Whittingham’s track record and Kerry Combs’ special teams background. Biggest surprise is Beck’s offense not clicking immediately—Chuck was a big Beck fan from New Mexico/Utah and expected a strong downhill run + QB-run marriage.
Key quote (Chuck): “Sometimes there’s a learning phase… and a lot of times, unfortunately, that ruins your season.”
~00:10:50 – 00:13:00 | Bryce Underwood Performance & Future
Chuck is “somewhere in between” the 70/30 camps.
Not ready to move off Underwood now (progress early, then setback; can’t abandon a major investment after one bad game as Michigan’s coach).

Does not view him as the long-term QB who develops into a consistent passer capable of leading to a title. Possible complementary role if reads/running improve; open to Tommy Carr or another option for a more prolific offense.

Wants Underwood to take ownership publicly and carry himself more like a traditional QB.
Hosts note sideline selfies and flashiness concerns. TJ has previously compared aspects of Underwood’s demeanor to a receiver.
~00:13:50 – 00:25:30 | Deep Film Breakdown – Minnesota Game Run Reads (Offense Issues)
Chuck walks through stills/clips of run concepts (power read, trap, option, etc.). Narrative that Underwood was “guessing on reads” (started by some analysts) is overstated.
Michigan at its best with Hogan Hanson in and threats that force defensive respect.

Mixed bag of blame: correct reads by Underwood in multiple spots; offensive line missing blocks/assignments (Nataphobia, others); Beck adjustments (second puller, speed option); occasional wrong reads or miscommunications by Underwood; Minnesota adjustments (extra LB, slanting DEs); backs (Savion Heider) missing explosive opportunities with poor vision.

Examples include unblocked LBs on motion looks, wrong defender read on power, and personnel (Hoffman/Johnson) not commanding respect like Hanson/Marsh.
Key takeaway (Chuck): “It’s definitely not all on Bryce… it’s kind of a mixed bag… cluttered in general.” Issues pile up with different people responsible each time. Beck shows in-game adjustments but not yet strong self-scouting of tendencies.
~00:25:30 – 00:29:00 | Tendencies, Self-Scout & Tight End / Rhino Discussion
Hosts press Beck on using film of Michigan’s own tendencies against defenses. Chuck hopes the bye produces a self-scout; so far limited in-game adjustments.
Agreement that heavy Rhino usage stems partly from TE blocking limitations (Hoffman not effective; Hanson is the preferred answer—threat that defenses respect, not elite but not awful as a blocker).

Whittingham/Beck both historically like TEs; current personnel is driving the package usage, which further crowds the box and limits passing threats.
Key quote (Chuck on Hanson): “He’s clearly a threat that defenses respect from what I see on film.”
~00:29:00 – 00:31:30 | Penn State / Indiana as Runway & Tommy Carr Snaps
TJ frames upcoming games as Underwood’s runway. Chuck notes backup QB snap increases (especially if starter is struggling) are not standard for established QBs; signals a shorter leash. Hosts acknowledge Carr’s reps are rising.
~00:31:30 – 00:35:00 | Does Carr Fix the Issues? + Broader Offense Critique
Chuck: No—if you can’t run consistently or create explosives, problems persist regardless of QB. References Ty Simpson’s situation as a cautionary example.
Hosts stress issues are bigger than one player. Defense praised (especially LBs under Alex Whittingham; front and secondary strong). Offense lacks complementary football and winning habits (“find ways to lose”).
~01:36:00 – 01:39:00 | Midweek Transfers (Jeremiah Irby & Others)
Discussion of Irby (corner, Boise State background with turnovers/tackles) and TE addition. Viewed as positive roster upgrades (especially defensive). Hosts note these were likely in the works independent of record; court eligibility timing made them midweek. Winning would have framed them as “championship moves.”
~01:39:00 – 01:42:00 | Winners Find Ways vs. Current Mentality
Comparison to Indiana finding ways to win (vs. Nebraska) and past Michigan championship teams. Current team plays not to lose in spots and lacks that edge. 2022 class fifth-year context briefly noted.
~01:43:00 – 01:55:00 | Ticket Winners, Final Thoughts & Wildcat / Scheme Simplicity
Winners announced (Christian / DetroitLionSixteen and Xavier Ely). Jason thanked for ticket donation.
Consensus lean toward Michigan win via improved run game vs. a weak Penn State team, but high frustration.

Wildcat on 3rd-and-1 disliked by Chuck (unnecessary with Underwood’s size/athleticism; better as short-yardage smash with Marshall).

Beck’s scheme described as relatively simple/user-friendly (Whittingham’s own words early); limited reads. Underwood’s decision-making is the recurring issue.

If Underwood struggles again (especially multiple turnovers), Carr likely sees meaningful snaps.
Key quotes:

Chuck: “Penn State sucks. I really, really hope that Michigan sucks less.”

Multiple: Frustration that a talented roster should be in better position; bye must produce visible improvement or fan base will “crash out.”
~01:55:00 – 02:03:00 | Closing Calls, Coaching Scale Question & Outro
Late discussion on whether Underwood’s performance scales with coaching (high-school comparison by Chuck). Hosts urge fire and complementary football. Show ends with “Go Blue / Fuck Ohio.”
Key Takeaways
Offense problems are multi-factorial (OL execution, scheme/adjustments, TE personnel forcing Rhino, QB reads/decisions, back vision). Not solely Underwood, but his decision-making and consistency are the clearest recurring issue.

Chuck is patient short-term with Underwood but unconvinced long-term; bye and Penn State game are critical data points.

Defense (especially linebackers) is a clear strength.

High urgency: fan base patience is thin after recent seasons; results out of the bye are expected.

Portal additions viewed positively and as planned rather than pure desperation.

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2 hr 3 min
October 13Bryce Starting, Tommy Carr Emerging? / Michigan Wolverines LIVE 271
Michigan Wolverines LIVE 271
Hosts: John D’Adamo & TJ Ronan
Presented by: FanDuel
Guest: Marty Leap (Penn State Nittany Lions / Voice of College Football)
Focus: Post-bye week outlook, Kyle Whittingham press conference, Bryce Underwood still starting vs. Tommy Carr emerging, broader team issues, and Michigan–Penn State preview.
Show context: Results phase after the bye. Fan base largely agrees things must improve regardless of QB stance. Oklahoma win noted as a quality result, but overall performance and record create urgency. Special note that Michelle is out of town and John will be out next week; regular schedule returns afterward. Marty Leap joins later for the Penn State breakdown.
Opening & Early Super Chats (~02:20–09:00)
Welcome and standard calls to like, subscribe, share, and use Super Chat.

TJ frames the moment as “result time.” Fan base is frustrated; the staff and players need to step up. Oklahoma win has value even if the record limits its impact.

Super chats touch on Sprague’s absence, Babalola returning to practice sooner, and Witt not buying into Michigan traditions/rivalries/Big Ten style. Quinn’s comment that it’s time to shop for a new coach is noted; hosts say red flags are piling up but started earlier.

Brief basketball (Mike Boyden, depth, free throws, freshmen) and hockey (dominant, need to beat Denver, “natty or bust”) side discussion. Hosts urge patience until later in the season before setting expectations.

Super Chat on Bryce: “If Bryce sucks again, Whit better bench him.” Hosts agree Indiana should not beat Tommy Carr’s first start and will address how the QB situation is likely to play out.
Kyle Whittingham Press Conference & QB Situation (~09:40–~18:00 and continuing)
Press conference clip highlights (Whittingham):
Emphasizes ball security and turnovers: if the turnover problem is not fixed rapidly, “something’s got to give.”

On Bryce Underwood: 6’4”, 230, runs like the wind, strong arm, year of experience plus five games this year. Staff still feels he gives the best chance to win at this point.
Hosts’ analysis (primarily TJ, with John):
Bryce remains the starter for Penn State. Many expected Tommy Carr to get the Penn State game; instead Bryce gets at least the start/beginning.

Runway is no longer infinite. TJ sees Whittingham laying groundwork for Tommy Carr if Bryce does not perform.

Tommy Carr received ~50% of snaps during the bye week (Whittingham called it by design). Hosts are skeptical this was purely standard bye-week backup work; it looks like an active evaluation/competition. Tommy’s name was mentioned among players who stood out in the bye (along with others, notably not Underwood).

Bryce has a roughly two-game window (Penn State and Indiana). If he does not play at the level Michigan needs and show consistent improvement/cleaner football, Tommy comes in—even mid-game against Indiana if they are getting smoked.

Good news framing: Fans will get one of two outcomes soon—Bryce improves and everyone wins, or Tommy gets the opportunity. Portal shopping remains a longer-term reality if neither works.

John notes a caller’s prediction that Bryce starts vs. Penn State, looks good enough to keep the job, Michigan squeaks by, then Indiana crushes them and Tommy is inserted in a worse spot.

TJ stresses Bryce should get the chance to respond (he responded after prior struggles) but does not get an unlimited leash. He is not a “forever Bryce” guy; patience is limited to confirming whether it can click.
Key quote / takeaway:
“If Bryce does not play at a level that is what Michigan needs out of its quarterback… I do see Tommy Carr coming in… A change at quarterback is very, very close.”
Tommy Carr’s opportunity is “soon.”
Broader Team Problems (Bigger Than Just the QB) (~18:00–~32:00)
TJ argues the QB is not the sole issue and the simple “change the quarterback” answer is incomplete:
Coaching staff is a problem (not out yet, but red flags mounting).

Special teams are a problem.

Running game is a problem (ranked in the 120s; not solely because of Bryce—box has been loaded for years).

Penalties are a major issue (one of the most penalized teams offensively; many line penalties—primarily on Harding and the line).

Offense ranked ~115th; schematic and execution issues beyond the QB.

Jason Beck is limiting the offense (half-field reads prominent; using Rhino packages to create them). Last year’s offense had more explosiveness/deep balls. Beck has not fully adapted to the personnel (O-line used to power/Sharon-style run game, not zone/Hogan Hanson stretch blocking). He is stuck on Rhino even while shifting somewhat toward 11 personnel.

Offensive line is okay in pass pro (often near max protection with extra blockers) but run blocking has been poor. Not playing elite or even really good.

Situational play-calling consistency is lacking (better first-half creativity/flea-flickers/wildcat at times; second half goes flat and horizontal).

Loss to Minnesota (first since 2014 under Hoke) and overall standard (should be competing with Ohio State/Georgia for 10–11 wins and playoff contention) make the urgency real.
On the coaching staff / Whittingham:
Whittingham said not much is changing; focus on what has worked and don’t panic over “one or two setbacks.” Hosts push back—offense ranked in the hundreds is more than a couple of setbacks; there are schematic issues.

Some hope for gamesmanship (not tipping hand vs. Penn State).

Whittingham’s stoic/composed approach in chaos is noted; some want more visible fire (comparisons to DeBoer, Cignetti, Saban, Harbaugh, Kirby Smart’s leaked “fuck the scoreboard… fuck these bitches up” speech).

Punt returner change: Marsh is out at the position (inconsistent, muffs, bad decisions). Whittingham attributed it to injury; hosts call that misleading and prefer a direct explanation. New returner not announced.
TJ’s bottom line on the next two games:
If Bryce plays at a Minnesota level again, TJ joins the “bench him” crowd. But throwing Tommy in against Indiana is not ideal; a controlled look would be better. If Bryce struggles and the running game, penalties, and sloppiness continue, the focus shifts harder to Beck and Harding.
Penn State Preview with Marty Leap (~1:44:00 onward)
Marty joins for keys and prediction. Discussion covers both programs’ coaching situations (Campbell vs. Franklin historical comparison, fan-base patience, personality fit in central Pennsylvania, three coaches in ~70 years at Penn State).
Marty’s keys & outlook:
Defense: Contain Bryce Underwood’s legs. Penn State has generated a lot of pressure (high QB pressures, fewer sacks) but has not finished. Rushing up the pocket and allowing Underwood to escape into cleared space is dangerous. QB run has hurt them (Temple, Wisconsin). Injuries (e.g., Max Granville, Achilles) have hurt the pass rush.

Offense: What version of Rocco Becht shows up? Better vs. USC (21/32, 289, TD) but still hesitant, bails early, underthrows deep balls that were open (missed potential game-icing throws to Eskildson). Can’t rely on the run game.

Prediction: Ugly, low-scoring defensive battle. Michigan wins 15-13 or 12-10 type score at home. Not a fun watch for neutrals. Marty is not picking Penn State until they prove they can win again after the recent stretch.
TJ / John keys:
Michigan’s offense must execute against Penn State’s defense; Bryce must play well. If Bryce struggles and Michigan’s defense holds, Tommy enters.

Turnover margin is critical: Michigan ~116th (negative margin); Penn State ~15th (+5). Whittingham said the margin must improve or something has to give. Winning the turnover battle + solid Bryce play + offense executing = Michigan win.

Special teams (kickoff coverage, punt return) must improve—Penn State has a dynamic returner in Zay Robinson (strong averages, multiple long returns). Michigan ranks near the bottom in opponent kickoff returns.

Michigan needs disciplined football (limit penalties); Penn State should try to force undisciplined play (jumping offsides, gimmicks).
Predictions:
Marty: Michigan 15-13 / 12-10 range, ugly.

TJ: Michigan 19.

John: Michigan 13, Penn State 9. All see a low-scoring defensive slugfest; Big House is a slight edge.
Marty notes the Big House has historically been a house of horrors for Penn State (blowouts, few wins outside COVID year). He promotes Penn State VOCFB content (X: MartyL_53; weekly live postgame + midweek videos).
Closing Super Chats & Wrap (~2:00–end)
Discussion of coaching fire/passion (DeBoer, Cignetti, Kirby, Harbaugh).

Personnel vs. scheme on the O-line; calls for more power/duo/inside zone that the line is used to. Beck has made some adjustments but still leans on wildcat/jet elements that stagnate.

Recruiting/portal outlook: O-line is a must; other positions (tight end, corner, QB) likely addressed. High-school class is small.

Reminder of Thursday call-in show and Saturday postgame.

Final call: Figure it out and perform. “Go Blue and fuck Ohio.”
Overall takeaway: Bryce Underwood starts vs. Penn State with a short leash (roughly two games). Tommy Carr is being prepped and is close if Bryce does not improve. Hosts see larger issues (Beck’s scheme/adaptation, O-line run blocking, penalties, special teams, coaching consistency) that a QB change alone will not fix. Penn State game is expected to be an ugly, low-scoring defensive battle decided by turnovers, discipline, and whether Bryce can play cleanly enough.

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October 09The Great QB Debate - Michigan Wolverines Call-in Show LIVE 108
Michigan is on a bye after the Minnesota loss, and the fan base is split roughly 70-30. TJ Ronin and Johnny Olden spent the show on Kyle Whittingham, Jason Beck, the penalty problem, and whether Bryce Underwood still gets the ball coming out of the bye.
Show setup
Hosts: TJ Ronin and Johnny Olden Jr. MichiganVOCFB call-in, episode 108. Bye week, no game to grade. TJ frames the room as angry and divided, about 70-30, and says the Bryce Underwood–Tommy Carr debate is the live topic. Second hour is tied to Super Chats and memberships. FanDuel read is Lions -5.5 vs. Arizona; both take Detroit, with a nod to Drew Petzing knowing the Cardinals.
Kyle Whittingham: Johnny is out
~4:10–6:15. Johnny is done with Whittingham. He says Whittingham was pushed toward a figurehead role at Utah, has no fire or attention to detail, and cannot coach week to week in the Big Ten. Western Michigan was a fight: undisciplined, penalties stacked, offense abysmal.

Scheme complaint lands on Beck too. Johnny wants downhill runs with the two bruiser backs, not Rhino/read-option stuff that forces Underwood to read everything. Whittingham, as CEO, should have killed that weeks ago.

Johnny does not care about the Utah résumé. “What have you done for me lately?”
TJ is concerned, not out
~8:35–10:20. TJ agrees on the red flags: slow starts, no juice, 10–12 men, penalties. He says this is the most penalized Michigan team of the decade. He is not firing Whittingham yet. His read is that Whittingham trusted the defense (playoff-caliber under Jay Hill) and let Beck run the offense, and the bye is when real changes should show.

Kerry Combs, Beck, and Whittingham all concern him. The line that sticks: Whittingham in Week 5 saying he does not have an answer, and calling this the biggest challenge of his career despite the most talent he has had.

~11:00–13:20. Johnny does not buy the “we’ll get it fixed, I don’t know how long” answer. Buyout talk lands around $20–25 million. TJ says Michigan already paid a roughly $30 million bill and will pay this one if the losses pile up (Penn State, Michigan State, Ohio State, on top of Minnesota). Johnny’s picture: lame-duck year, then out if it gets bad enough.
Penalty numbers
~14:30–15:10. TJ’s on-air look-up: 2026 is at 7.6 penalties and 66.4 penalty yards per game. Closest recent comp is the 2020 COVID year at 5.6 penalties per game, about two fewer flags and 20 fewer yards. That is the cleanest “this staff is not the disciplined Utah brand” stat on the show.
The QB debate
Johnny on Underwood (~16:30–19:10):
Cannot read the field. Locks on the first receiver. Fine early if he gets in a groove; once it goes bad or the game is on him, he regresses fast.

Iowa was the exception because Iowa does not change much. Minnesota’s last two drives were the break for Johnny: locked on, threw into double and triple coverage, and on the last play faked a read, flipped his body, and chucked it. Johnny says the delayed tight end was open. PJ Fleck’s timeout saved an earlier interception into triple coverage, and Underwood came back and did the same thing.
TJ’s counter (~21:10–27:30):
Do not burn the season off two bad games. Western Michigan and Minnesota were unacceptable. Oklahoma, UTEP, and Iowa were usable data points, and the 70 percent was quiet then.

Underwood was not the only regression vs. Minnesota. Andrew Marsh is scared to return punts. Whole offense is broken, which is why TJ wants Beck addressed.

Fan anger is cumulative, plus expectations were higher. Winning covers ugly quarterback lines; losing does not. He cites the old USC win with Alex Orji barely throwing.
Zach Marshall leak (~23:50–25:30):
Johnny is not surprised. He had been in Marshall’s TikTok live two weeks earlier; Marshall agreed Beck was a problem. Johnny says some of the leaked complaints are fair, but Marshall trusted the wrong person. Three outcomes: team crumbles, stays inconsistent, or the leak forces coaches and players onto the same page. Build the offense around the quarterback you actually start.
TJ’s plan out of the bye (~26:35–31:00):
Underwood starts. Two-game leash: Penn State, then Indiana. He does not want Tommy Carr’s first start to be Curt Cignetti.

If Underwood lays another Western Michigan, the hand is forced even inside that window.

No playoff urgency. Do not rush the decision on a Friday of the bye.
Johnny’s counter:
The rest of the schedule is hard. Waiting means Carr still debuts into Penn State, Michigan State, Rutgers types who have not beaten Michigan in a while and smell blood. If you are going to start him, give him first-team reps these two weeks and build the offense to him. TJ hates taking reps from the starter you claim you are still developing.
Later-hour final thoughts
The back half (from ~2:07) is a panel, not just TJ and Johnny.
Ben: Start the Carr clock. Staying with Underwood looks like 7-5 or 6-6. Carr might not be better, but there is a chance. TJ grants the development-clock argument and notes the locker room is still behind Underwood.

Keith: Bowl eligibility is in doubt. He can see four or five more losses with Underwood. Best arm on the roster, not the IQ for a Big Ten job. Western Michigan throw is the proof of the arm.

BW: Foundation over the quarterback soap opera. Clean up penalties, scheme better, run for 200. He thinks it is scheme and details, not “wrong players.” Did not sign up for a Utah-style fade. Two darker notes: how the Underwood recruitment went down, and the coaching fit.

Defense credit (~2:12): Jay Hill has the defense sixth nationally and playing elite. Nobody is talking about it because the offense is wasting it.

2027 framing: One voice wants Carr now so Michigan knows whether it needs a portal quarterback. Staff is likely having that exact bye-week talk, and pulling Underwood is on the table because the coaches are taking heat. Dampier comes up as a name; the panel is already skeptical. Counter: a competent quarterback should lighten the box. Johnny’s better argument is that even when Michigan could run last year, Underwood still could not read pressure, and this year’s run scheme does not fit the backs. One-dimensional became zero-dimensional.

Johnny’s close (~2:16): Blame Underwood or Beck if you want. The number one problem is Whittingham. He would not fire him today. Lame duck through the year, top three ready (Jay Hill, “Dilly,” whoever), new coach the moment the season ends. The fan-base kill shot is losing to Ohio State. They already lost the Little Brown Jug; last Minnesota loss of that jug was 1977.

TJ’s close: Another week before anyone knows if the run game, the flags, the personnel, or Underwood actually moved. Most talent Whittingham has had, and he is botching it.
Sideline color that stuck
Big Ten basketball media day question to Elliot Cadeau and Trey McKinney: do they feel pressure to pick up for football? Hosts treat that as rock bottom. Rivals “feeling bad” is not to be trusted.

No guaranteed wins left. Western Michigan should have been a loss. Sparty may have the better quarterback. Someone floats Jonathan Smith as a better scheme fit.

Underwood as captain: hosts say they never see him settle the offensive line or lift the sideline. He smiles and talks to nobody when it is bad.

Nobody on the show can remember a sideline shot of Whittingham talking to Underwood, or inspiring any position group. Johnny calls that weird for a head coach and a quarterback. Theory floated: Underwood is not Whittingham’s guy, and a $12 million collective decision may be above the coach’s head. TJ thinks any “you can’t bench him” order is fading. Whittingham told Underwood in Florida he was the guy.

Harbaugh never really recruited Underwood. Panel splits on whether that was NIL timing or Harbaugh seeing something.

Whittingham publicly said it is not only Bryce and not only Beck. TJ’s read: he is saying everything is broken, including the quarterback, in political language.
Clip timestamps
4:12–6:18. Johnny: “I’m out on Witt.” Utah figurehead, no fire, Western Michigan as the evidence.

9:00–10:30. TJ: most penalized Michigan team of the decade, but not ready to fire him. Combs, Beck, Whittingham all concern him.

14:34–15:08. Penalty stat: 7.6 flags and 66.4 yards per game vs. 5.6 in 2020.

16:29–19:05. Johnny on Underwood’s locks, the Fleck timeout, and the last-play fake read.

26:37–28:20. TJ’s two-game leash: Penn State and Indiana, then Carr if it is still broken.

2:12:00–2:12:35. Jay Hill and a top-six defense nobody is crediting.

2:16:42–2:17:50. Johnny: Whittingham is the problem. Lame duck, then a pre-loaded hire.

2:18:35–2:19:00. Little Brown Jug. Last time was 1977.

2:23:00–2:24:45. “Have you ever seen Witt and Bryce talk?”
Where they landed
Johnny is out on Whittingham as the head coach and leaning toward starting Carr’s clock, but he would let Whittingham finish as a lame duck. TJ still wants Underwood out of the bye on a short leash and thinks the bye is the first fair window for scheme fixes. Both agree Minnesota was not good enough, the penalty profile is historically bad for this decade, and the defense is the only unit playing like the preseason pitch. No one on the show thinks the season is fixed until Penn State shows something.

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October 07Start The Carr? / Michigan Wolverines LIVE 270 Part 2
Start The Carr? — Michigan Wolverines LIVE 270, Part 2. Hosts John D’Adamo and TJ Ronin. Bye-week debate on Bryce Underwood’s runway, Tommy Carr, Jason Beck, Kyle Whittingham’s buyout, and the Chip Lindsey reporting.
Core take
TJ is in the minority (~30%) that wants one more look at Bryce after the Minnesota regression before flipping to Tommy Carr. He is not defending sustained poor play. His line: either Bryce responds, or Tommy starts — and that fork is close. John and chat lean toward the change now. They agree the defense should not be thrown out with the offense.
Segment notes
Protect Tommy’s development (0:00–2:10)
TJ argues Michigan should ease Tommy in the same way he wanted Bryce eased last year. The “microwave” demand for instant results blew that up. He tells chat disagreement is fine; insults, misinformation accusations, and personal attacks are not. He frames his confidence as pattern recognition from consulting work, not emotion, and says he has no problem being against roughly 70% of the fan base on this take.
Clip: 0:10–0:31 — “Protect Tommy’s development… we just fast-forwarded through that because we’re a microwave society.”
Sherrone “romance” super chat (2:13–4:46)
Adam Lamparello jokes the real story is romance and a redemption arc for Sherrone Moore. Hosts push back: the fan base was miserable under Sherrone (“goldfish memory”), and calling him back is not a plan. Side note that his wife stayed loyal. Whittingham’s buyout is floated at $5 million — “not financially tied” — with the caveat they can cut bait. They do not want to lose the defense; if the scheme fails, hire a more pro-style OC. Chip Kelly as OC next to Jay Hill is the hypothetical. OC history named: Josh Gattis, Kirk Campbell, Matt Weiss.
Clip: 3:03–3:24 — “Goldfish memory… you were miserable with Sherrone… Whittingham’s buyout’s only five million.”
Titanic / don’t open Christmas early (4:49–7:20)
Chat calls TJ the guy on a deck chair on the Titanic. He runs with it: fan base jumping lifeboats with Tommy Carr’s face on them while the band plays. Counter: Rome wasn’t built in a day; Harbaugh took seven years and a chunk of the fan base was out on him before the title. Christmas-present frame — Tommy is the gift under the tree. Open it too early and you lose the surprise. Best case is Bryce figures it out and you still get a Tommy year later. Worst case, the Tommy season comes anyway.
Clip: 4:49–5:27 — Titanic / lifeboats with Tommy’s face.
Clip: 6:22–6:45 — “If you allow a little time… Bryce does figure it out… if it doesn’t, you get your Tommy Carr season.”
Why no portal QB (7:21–8:19)
TJ: portal QBs were scared off by Bryce’s NIL, and Bryce was given the keys. With a guaranteed starter, Fowler-Nicolosi was about the ceiling of what they could land. Not a real open competition this offseason.
The Penn State deal (8:40–10:35)
TJ’s public offer: if Bryce’s first half against Penn State looks like the second half against Minnesota, the staff makes the change. Leash is short. Outcome is binary — Bryce figures it out, or Tommy starts. He is not arguing for an endless runway if the Minnesota version continues. He wants the response to the regression, with training wheels off.
Clip: 9:06–9:29 — “If Bryce plays the first half against Penn State like the second half against Minnesota… the coaching staff is going to make that change… either Bryce figuring it out or Tommy Carr starting.”
Chase Herbstreit / Carr hype (11:00–12:44)
Chase is not the answer unless they’re up big; arm talent isn’t there (spring game). Conspiracy jokes that he’s a Ryan Day “spy” get laughed off — he’s here for a better deal and a broadcast path. Tommy hype is amplified by the CJ Carr legacy and by how he’s looked in limited snaps (spring, UTEP). TJ: reasonable belief he could be more consistent, but not enough evidence yet.
Juice, Chip Kelly, Michigan Metal (12:45–15:20)
TJ wants more fire from Whittingham; slow starts and lack of juice bother him. Chip Kelly as 2027 head coach is a no — he doesn’t recruit, and his own comments suggest he doesn’t want another HC job. Michigan is not a “linear” landing spot anyway. Shout-out to Michigan Metal (@Michigan_metal) for All-22 and for pushing back on Connor Stalions. Frame for the show: town square, debate ideas, answers will reveal themselves.
Utah OC aside (16:51–17:40)
Who called the Utah offense that hung ~50 on Ohio State? Andy Ludwig. Long OC résumé (Utah, Vanderbilt, Wisconsin, San Diego State, Cal); he later stepped down.
Buyout correction (18:26–20:46)
Steve asks who they’d hire if Whittingham has to go if there’s no improvement. TJ first says zero chance he’s fired. They reconcile the numbers: ~$5 million if he’s poached; if fired without cause he’s owed 75% of remaining base salary — about $24.75 million if fired this year. That is not happening. Other reasons to stay put: defense is the strength, this is mostly an offense problem, board of regents turnover, AD change, new president in about two months. New AD will want a year to evaluate. Best realistic move is an OC change, and even that is uncertain because Whittingham pulled Beck and company out of good situations and they followed him.
Clip: 19:30–20:08 — Fired without cause ≈ $24.75 million. “That’s not happening… the defense is great… it’s an offense issue.”
Poll: who’s the problem? (22:08–23:42)
252 votes. Jason Beck 40%, Bryce Underwood 37%, Kyle Whittingham 12%, run game 11%. About 63% say the biggest issue is not Bryce. Hosts: fan base wants a pound of flesh; TJ isn’t there, but the frustration is real. Christmas-present closer again.
Chip Lindsey reporting (23:43–26:56)
Wolverine notes Chip Lindsey was paid $750K to leave (hosts assume Mizzou covered it). TJ shares what he was told over the summer: concepts practiced during the week never got called on Saturday, including Donovan Edwards in the passing game. Frustration from players and staff. Chip was technically QB coach, but day-to-day work with Bryce sat with a coach transcribed as Synagoga. Sherrone reportedly did not want Chip working directly with Bryce while they fought over whose plays got called. TJ stresses he is not Sam Webb or Balas — occasional group-chat info, not a daily pipeline, and he will not burn sources.
Clip: 24:14–24:47 — “They would run plays and concepts during the week and they would never see the light of day on Saturday… Donovan Edwards not being utilized in the passing game.”
Donors and close (27:00–32:26)
TJ: donors are frustrated after the Minnesota loss — unsurprising. No specific Underwood-donor chatter beyond that. Sign-off: Thursday show at 8 p.m. Eastern. Next Michigan Monday moves to Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern because of John’s Vegas trip (not Tuesday); Michelle can’t make that one. Community post coming. TJ will own it if Tommy gets the job and is the answer. Closing rant on Ohio State fans and Dave Portnoy being bounced from Fox — “Fuck Ohio.” Go Blue.
Quick hits
Position: one more response game for Bryce, then the change is on the table. Not a defense of repeated Minnesota-level play.

Portal: Bryce’s NIL and a promised starting job killed real QB competition. Fowler-Nicolosi was the realistic add.

Staff heat: Beck leads the fan poll (40%). Whittingham buyout if fired without cause is ~$24.75M, so an in-season firing is a non-starter. OC swap is the only live lever, and loyalty cuts against it.

Reporting: Lindsey was handcuffed on Saturday calls; Edwards’ passing role was practiced and not used; Sherrone didn’t want Lindsey on Bryce day to day.

Schedule: Thursday 8 p.m. ET; next week’s show is Monday 8 p.m. ET, not Tuesday.
Shorts timestamps
0:10 — Protect Tommy / microwave society

3:05 — Goldfish memory on Sherrone

4:49 — Titanic deck chair vs. Tommy lifeboats

6:22 — Christmas present / best of both worlds

7:29 — Portal QBs scared of Underwood’s NIL

9:06 — Penn State leash deal

19:41 — $24.75M buyout if fired without cause

22:24 — Poll: Beck 40, Bryce 37, Whittingham 12, run game 11

24:14 — Plays practiced, never called; Edwards in the passing game

29:33 — Fuck Ohio / Portnoy close

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