
Sign up to save your podcasts
Or


Removing partisan political rhetoric from state government, Michigan's Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson sits down with Rick to discuss her no-holds-barred style regarding local government. Married into the military, Jocelyn is a no-nonsense leader who isn't shaken by political threats on her life, campaign attacks from the far right, or the pressure to cave to Trump's "stolen election" claims during 2020. Jocelyn never blinked then, and is now running for Governor in 2026. Jocelyn's book, "The Purposeful Warrior: Standing Up for What's Right When the Stakes Are High," is a mantra of how she lives and leads. Delivering on things that will actually improve Michiganders' lives from Detroit to the UP for the long term, Jocelyn remains locked in on her state and hopes to be able to "fight for a stronger Michigan."
・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・
You can check out Jocelyn's new book, "The Purposeful Warrior: Standing Up for What's Right When the Stakes Are High," at fine booksellers everywhere. Feel free to follow her campaign at https://jocelynbenson.com/, on X at @JocelynBenson, and on Bluesky at @jocelynbenson.bsky.social. Jocelyn is surely one to watch!
Follow Rick Wilson at @TheRickWilson on X and @therickwilson.bsky.social on Bluesky, and subscribe to his Substack at therickwilson.substack.com.
Join the fight with the Lincoln Project at www.lincolnproject.us and follow LP on X at @ProjectLincoln. If you'd like to help us continue our critical work, visit https://action.lincolnproject.us/helplp to make a difference.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
By The Lincoln Project4.6
87978,797 ratings
Removing partisan political rhetoric from state government, Michigan's Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson sits down with Rick to discuss her no-holds-barred style regarding local government. Married into the military, Jocelyn is a no-nonsense leader who isn't shaken by political threats on her life, campaign attacks from the far right, or the pressure to cave to Trump's "stolen election" claims during 2020. Jocelyn never blinked then, and is now running for Governor in 2026. Jocelyn's book, "The Purposeful Warrior: Standing Up for What's Right When the Stakes Are High," is a mantra of how she lives and leads. Delivering on things that will actually improve Michiganders' lives from Detroit to the UP for the long term, Jocelyn remains locked in on her state and hopes to be able to "fight for a stronger Michigan."
・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・
You can check out Jocelyn's new book, "The Purposeful Warrior: Standing Up for What's Right When the Stakes Are High," at fine booksellers everywhere. Feel free to follow her campaign at https://jocelynbenson.com/, on X at @JocelynBenson, and on Bluesky at @jocelynbenson.bsky.social. Jocelyn is surely one to watch!
Follow Rick Wilson at @TheRickWilson on X and @therickwilson.bsky.social on Bluesky, and subscribe to his Substack at therickwilson.substack.com.
Join the fight with the Lincoln Project at www.lincolnproject.us and follow LP on X at @ProjectLincoln. If you'd like to help us continue our critical work, visit https://action.lincolnproject.us/helplp to make a difference.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

7,674 Listeners

3,391 Listeners

12,735 Listeners

4,648 Listeners

4,053 Listeners

8,353 Listeners

50,994 Listeners

5,988 Listeners

2,321 Listeners

3,186 Listeners

3,964 Listeners

7,036 Listeners

1,187 Listeners

3,496 Listeners

784 Listeners