Midlifing

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Lee and Simon have a hypothetical and very real conversation about being with loved ones.

Recorded 1 August 2021.

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Related links (and necessary corrections):

• Latin in UK schools (a few of them): https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jul/31/latin-introduced-40-state-secondaries-england
• Dawn Butler thrown out of chamber for calling UK PM a liar: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57927398
• A Few Good Men (film): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Few_Good_Men
• A Few Good Men (play): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Few_Good_Men_(play)
• The Good Fight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Fight
• The Good Wife: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Wife
• Teevee snacks: https://theaustralianfoodshop.com/product/original-chocolate-teevee-snacks-175g/
• Servo: http://www.slang.com.au/s/servo/
• Marshmallow test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzppzOGJv8Y
• delayed gratification: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_gratification
• Quantity of carbon produced in flight from London to Wellington: 5.57 metric tons of CO2e (estimated at https://calculator.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.aspx)
• Visualising a metric a ton of CO2: https://www.conservationmagazine.org/2013/06/visualizing-carbon/
• Phantom phone vibrations: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20130701-why-you-feel-phantom-phone-calls
• Akram Khan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akram_Khan_(dancer)
• Smooth Criminal: https://youtu.be/h_D3VFfhvs4

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Prompted by some listener feedback in which Lee and Simon are accused of nearly jumping the shark, they decide to come clean about their ambitions and reach out to you, yes you, their listeners. Also, who are we kidding, these show notes are not written by someone else.

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Related links (and necessary corrections):

• jumping the shark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark
• making lawyer money (Cal Newport and Jordan Harbinger): https://open.spotify.com/episode/3TRgvpqazAj5WntG6YiODn?si=21c7e9528c30484c
• foundering: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/foundering
• North York moors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_York_Moors
• Catherine Cookson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Cookson
• foundling: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/foundling
• dear John letter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dear_John_letter
• floundering: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/floundering
• jingle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle

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Lee expresses some concerns about the UK's "Freedom Day" and has an excellent strategy to prevent people dropping by. They touch on the 1976 film Logan's Run which leads to a conversation about assisted dying. We also find out if Simon's nephew Finn is polite or just not a glutton.

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Related links (and necessary corrections):

• Camo software for using phone as webcam: https://reincubate.com/camo/
• Freedom Day: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/freedom-day-coronavirus-restrictions-lockdown-end-b1886862.html
• Logan's Run (1976): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan's_Run_(film)
• carousel (from Logan's Run) - killed at 30 (not 32 Simon): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wjXpTDuHiE
• Logan's Run (book): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan's_Run
• climate vandalism (not quite the article Simon was referring to but he couldn't find it): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-27/climate-class-action-teenagers-vickery-coal-mine-legal-precedent/100169398
• assisted dying / euthanasia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia
• The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living (Damien Hirst): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Physical_Impossibility_of_Death_in_the_Mind_of_Someone_Living
• first do no harm: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/first-do-no-harm-201510138421
• how to pronounce pain au chocolat: https://youtu.be/Hfy4y9wauZY
• Email from Finn is referring to the middle of Episode 35 (14:10 min): https://www.midlifing.net/1480717/8794478-overdue-part-1-a-stand-up-sauna-for-one

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Our fearlessly absurd friends find themselves in the land of musicals until Simon reveals that he did his long overdue Suspiria watching homework.

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Related links (and necessary corrections):

• Sweet Caroline (don't watch it, you'll never get it out of your head): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty1dwBCR6D0
• Michael Jackson Black or White: https://youtu.be/pTFE8cirkdQ
• Stevie Wonder and Paul McCartney Ebony and Ivory: https://youtu.be/fXAlfh6QKQs
• colons and titles: https://www.psychnewsdaily.com/psychology-article-titles-do-better-with-colons-and-questions/
• The Ladies Who Lunch (Sondheim): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ladies_Who_Lunch_(song)
• Valsalva maneuver: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valsalva_maneuver
• Heathers (musical): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heathers:_The_Musical
• Waitress (musical): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waitress_(musical)
• Todaytix: https://www.todaytix.com
• Suspiria (2018): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspiria_(2018_film)
• Dario Argento original Suspiria (1977): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspiria
• Italian giallo (Lee was right, the original novels had yellow covers): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giallo
• Dashiell Hammett: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashiell_Hammett
• Luca Guadagnino: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luca_Guadagnino
• Tilda Swinton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilda_Swinton
• Goblin's main theme of Suspiria (1977) - note that Simon tried to watch and listen to this but became terrified and couldn't finish it: https://youtu.be/9-IEUz3Kqpw
• Goblin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goblin_(band)
• Pina Bausch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pina_Bausch
• Ausdruckstanz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressionist_dance
• Anne Teresa De Keersmaeker Rosa Danst Rosa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQCTbCcSxis
• Damien Jalet: http://www.damienjalet.com
• Suspiria (2018) final dance costumes: https://dazedimg-dazedgroup.netdna-ssl.com/1041/336-0-1041-694/azure/dazed-prod/1250/4/1254980.jpg
• Daria Nicolodi (co-writer Suspiria, 1977): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daria_Nicolodi

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Part 2 of 2 of Overdue begins with three sneezes and then extends last week's conversation into difficult ideas to do with sexuality and otherness. Please note that Lee and Simon briefly discuss suicidal ideation.

Here's a list of international suicide hotlines: http://www.suicide.org/hotlines/international-suicide-hotlines.html

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Related links (and necessary corrections):

• Studio 54: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_54
• Queer theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_theory
• Heteronormativity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heteronormativity
• queer the pitch: https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/queer+the+pitch
• queerness: https://www.philosophytalk.org/shows/queerness/
• sexual behaviour in the human male: http://sites.psu.edu/245spring2015/wp-content/uploads/sites/21459/2015/07/kinsey.pdf
• baseball metaphors for sex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_metaphors_for_sex
• Victorian sexualities: https://www.bl.uk/romantics-and-victorians/articles/victorian-sexualities
• Trixie Mattel & Katya Zamolodchikova talk porn: 
• benefits of school uniforms: https://www.nordangliaeducation.com/article/2020/7/15/the-benefits-of-schools-uniforms
• BIPOC: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BIPOC
• Bruce Springsteen's Glory Days (1985): https://youtu.be/6vQpW9XRiyM
• It Gets Better campaign: https://itgetsbetter.org/
• Imran Khan and sexual violence: https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/imran-khan-interview-womens-clothes-sexual-violence-b1869777.html
• The Laramie Project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Laramie_Project
• verbatim theatre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_theatre#Verbatim_theatre
• technological affordances: https://marchudson.net/academia/innovation-terminology/technological-affordances/
• Ken Loach's Cathy Come Home (1966): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_Come_Home
• Shelter (apparently only coincidentally related to Cathy Come Home): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelter_(charity)

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Part 1 of 2 of Overdue has Lee and Simon talking about protests, diverse crowds, trust in institutions and feeling out of place.

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Related links (and necessary corrections):

• white power symbol and ok gesture: https://www.npr.org/2019/09/26/764728163/the-ok-hand-gesture-is-now-listed-as-a-symbol-of-hate
• boiled egg hack: https://www.thespruceeats.com/how-to-make-perfect-7-minute-eggs-4768157
• lifehacker: https://lifehacker.com/
• wikihow: https://www.wikihow.com/Main-Page
• Inception: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inception
• Laurence Olivier statue at Southbank (playing Hamlet, it clearly isn't a dagger he was seeing before him): https://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/2931
• pizzagate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory
• Extinction rebellion: https://rebellion.global/
• NZ anti-apartheid movement (Halt All Racist Tours): https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/15-07-2019/the-birth-of-a-movement-that-divided-nz-and-changed-us-forever/

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Lee and Simon become agony aunts (or uncomfortable uncles) for one episode. Perhaps this is the start of a dramatic rise into the top 1% of all podcasts?

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Related links (and necessary corrections):

• Sourdough starter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sourdough#Starter
• Bobby Baker: http://bobbybaker.com/
• Shattered Anatomies: https://www.adrianheathfield.net/project/shattered-anatomies
• Bakery in Auckland using Simon's starter (without payment): http://www.4and20.co.nz/
• Top 1 percent of all podcasts tweet: https://twitter.com/jackbutcher/status/1405883978435993603
• Corbetron: https://twitter.com/corbetron
• Mouthfeel: https://www.streetdirectory.com/food_editorials/snacks/chocolates/the_mouthfeel_of_chocolate_the_cacao_tree.html
• Morrison's mozzarella sticks: https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/morrisons-12-mozzarella-sticks-531233011
• Veuve Clicquot: https://www.veuveclicquot.com/en-us/our-champagnes
• Flamin hot wotsits: https://walkers.co.uk/crisps-range/wotsits/flamin-hot
• For Simon, it's the Vueve Clicquot widow and not the Veuve Clicquot auntie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_Clicquot_Ponsardin

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Simon holds a sports quiz for Lee (without beer). What could possibly go wrong?

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Related links (and necessary corrections):

• Kinsey scale (0-6): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale
• Cristiano Ronaldo and water: https://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2021/jun/16/drink-water-ronaldos-coca-cola-snub-costs-company-billions-video
• Paul Pogba and Heineken: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/16/paul-pogba-moves-sponsors-beer-from-view-at-euro-2020-news-conference
• Man of La Mancha: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_La_Mancha
• Suspension of Ollie Robinson (cricketer), with distracting comments by Oliver Dowden (the person we couldn't remember), and the Prime Minister: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jun/07/sports-minister-oliver-dowden-says-ecb-over-the-top-to-suspend-ollie-robinson-england-cricket
• Priti Patel on footballers taking the knee: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-taking-knee-boo-england-b1865409.html
• culture war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_war

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Just to be clear, Midlifing is not a side hustle. Lee and Simon talk about hobbies.

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Related links (and necessary corrections):

• pain de mie: https://www.tasteatlas.com/pain-de-mie
• pullman tin: https://www.bitchinfrommelanieskitchen.com/2021/04/how-to-bake-a-pullman-loaf-in-a-pullman-bread-pan.html
• Chorleywood bread process (1961, not the 1950s): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorleywood_bread_process
• food stuck in teeth as you get older: https://moorefamilydentist.com/food-stuck-teeth
• waterpik: https://www.webmd.com/oral-health/what-is-waterpik
• Annie are you OK? https://youtu.be/LzAGAA6t2FY
• mirror, signal, manoeuvre: https://youtu.be/j5DMGzlIzSY
• Branco's new mix (Instagram only): https://www.instagram.com/tv/CP-k6iypRbc/
• brain-eating amoeba: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2018/12/07/neti-pot-tap-water-caused-womans-deadly-brain-infection-report/2236681002/
• hobby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobby
• Simon was quoting (about money and value) from Derek Sivers in Cal Newport's So Good They Can't Ignore You: https://www.calnewport.com/books/so-good/
• Hobbyists (Bob Whalley and Lee Miller):  ‘Hobbyists’ (2014) in DIY (Do. It. Yourself), edited by Robert Jude Daniels, co-authored with Joanne ‘Bob’ Whalley, Chichester: University of Chichester, pp. 52-55.
• side hustle: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=side%20hustle
• shoulder arms: https://www.sportspundit.com/cricket/terms/292-shoulder-arms
• let that through to the keeper: https://epitemnein-epitomic.blogspot.com/2008/11/letting-things-pass-through-to-keeper.html
• rectal douching: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectal_douching
• blanket stitch: https://youtu.be/S9zegUYdPmg

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Simon is dealing with a cold and Lee is empathetic. Special guests (not literally): Kermit the Frog, Animal, Mr Miyagi, someone throwing glasses in a cocktail bar in Lisbon, Ian Ellis, Doctor Emmett "Doc" Brown, and Thom Yorke.

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Related links (and necessary corrections):

• Muppets Christmas Carol Marley and Marley: https://youtu.be/VsiKOJOXMJU
• mate (link from James in NZ): https://www.smh.com.au/national/mate-what-s-the-history-of-our-most-treasured-salutation-20210513-p57rhk.html
• These are not the droids you're looking for: https://youtu.be/k1rlThKe1qo
• Promising Young Woman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promising_Young_Woman
• Eighth Grade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Grade_(film)
• Lee's homework (Bo Burnham, Inside): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_Burnham%3A_Inside
• Simon's homework (Suspiria, 2018): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspiria_(2018_film)
• Neti pot nasal irrigation: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/249460
• Cobra Kai: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_Kai
• Whistle past the graveyard: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whistle%20past%20the%20graveyard
• 1.21 gigawatts (Back to the Future): https://youtu.be/I5cYgRnfFDA

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