Hi Goblin Family,

A few of our episodes were filmed before the protests and overall global civil-unrest took place. We felt it necessary to let you know, as it is not discussed during this chat. All ad revenue from this episode will be given to the Black Lives Matters global network (https://blacklivesmatter.com).

For more information on mutual aid resources, please visit: https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/12y7-Wa4gi8HUeFTv17gPcbMGuVX5cqIudLJmhOrq1-k/mobilebasic

With that we welcome Mike Catherwood! A much needed guest due to his willingness to both climb onto the balcony but also get into nitty gritty conversations about life and career.

Mike started in radio at 22 and has since gone on to co-host LOVELINE with Dr Drew, as well as his own radio shows at KROQ-FM on Kevin and Bean, and now his podcast MIKE LIKES YOU. He’s not only a “cool guy” he’s also incredibly generous and kind in his conversation with Rick about bombing, growing in your art, and navigating insecurities. he Boys discuss their first meeting (nakedness is of course involved), leaning into being good enough, and hits and misses in the industry.

We know you guys have enjoyed these more conversation dense episodes and we think this one in particular is an exceptional version of that. Mike, what a guy… a cool… hot bodied guy.

RICK GLASSMAN https://www.rickglassman.com https://www.patreon.com/takeyourshoesoff https://www.instagram.com/rickglassman

MIKE CATHERWOOD https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mikey-likes-you-with-mike-catherwood/id1496574376 https://www.instagram.com/mikecatherwood

Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/takeyourshoesoff