Mike Clelland joins me for Part 2 of our conversation about his book, The Messengers; Owls, Synchronicity, and the UFO Abductee. You can find a previous show in our archive with Mike from 2013 when he was starting this book, but this will go so much deeper into this mystery. Mike is often now known as The Owl Guy due to this research. We will discuss the subtleties of what he investigates, how it all ties together, and what it may teach us about ourselves and the weirdness of the universe.  Download or if you are having problems, try this zipped download link. His website is hiddenexperience.blogspot.com