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In this episode of Million Dollar Flip Flops, Rodric sits down with Michele DeFilippo — owner of 1106 Design and a publishing expert who has helped more than 4,000 authors self-publish their books since 2001.

Michele breaks down the confusion surrounding modern publishing, especially the traps authors fall into when they assume they need a “publisher” when what they really need is the right services. She explains the difference between true self-publishing and the growing wave of middleman publishing companies that charge authors upfront, then also take money from every sale on the back end.

Rodric and Michele also talk about AI-generated book garbage flooding Amazon, the misuse of royalties in self-publishing deals, and how authors can protect both their work and their income. If you have a book in you — or one already in progress — this episode is a must-listen.

• Michele’s path to helping more than 4,000 authors self-publish
• The difference between self-publishing and paying the wrong kind of publisher
• Why authors often don’t need a publisher — they need expert services
• How some publishing companies charge authors twice
• The red flags every author should watch for before signing anything
• Michele’s take on AI-generated books and why they’re harming publishing
• Why “royalty” language can be a warning sign in self-publishing deals
• The common misconceptions authors have about book sales
• Why a quality book still matters if you want to build a business with it
• The simple questions authors should ask before hiring anyone

[00:00] The publishing industry’s darker side

Michele opens with a warning about publishers who take authors’ money and still fail to produce a quality book.

[00:00] Meet Michele DeFilippo

Rodric introduces Michele, founder of 1106 Design, who has helped over 4,000 authors self-publish since 2001.

[01:00] Rodric’s own publishing lessons

Rodric shares that after publishing two books, he learned a lot the hard way and wishes he’d had someone like Michele sooner.

[01:00] AI-generated books and publishing garbage

Michele explains her concerns about AI-created books flooding the market and why there is no substitute for an author’s real voice.

[02:00] Biggest misconceptions authors have

She breaks down how authors often misunderstand what self-publishing really means.

[02:00] What self-publishing originally meant

Michele explains that self-publishing used to clearly mean the author was the publisher and kept control and profits.

[03:00] The rise of middleman publishers

She explains how many companies now charge authors to publish their books and still take money from every sale.

[04:00] Publisher vs. services: what authors actually need

Rodric asks Michele to clarify the difference between a publisher and simply hiring the right professionals to help.

[04:00] How Michele’s company helps authors

Michele explains how 1106 Design provides editing, design, distribution setup, and publishing support in the author’s name.

[06:00] The money authors leave on the table

She explains how many authors are unknowingly earning far less per book because they signed bad publishing deals.

[06:00] Rodric on unrealistic publishing expectations

Rodric shares how people often misunderstand what success looks like when a book launches.

[07:00] Michele on the “100 books sold” myth

She pushes back on the often-repeated statistic that most books sell under 100 copies and explains why that number can be misleading.

[08:00] Why authors need protection from scams

Michele talks about the emotional investment authors make in their books and why scams in publishing are especially damaging.

[09:00] Rodric’s story about a poet friend

Rodric shares a story about a friend whose poetry book struggled to find support in traditional publishing.

[10:00] Rodric’s message about Million Dollar Flip Flops

Rodric shares a quick message about his book and the foundation behind it.

[10:00] Where to find Michele

Michele shares where authors can connect with her and download her free book, Publish Like the Pros.

[11:00] Michele’s question for the next guest

She asks a simple but powerful question: what is your why?

[11:00] Michele’s answer to the previous guest’s question

She shares the last physical book she read — The Body Keeps the Score — and what it taught her about hidden suffering and compassion.

[13:00] Final advice for authors

Michele ends by sharing the specific warning signs and questions authors should use when evaluating publishing offers.

“Some of these publishers just take their money and don’t put out a good book.” – Michele DeFilippo

“Authors do not need a publisher. They need services.” – Michele DeFilippo

“If they’re offering you a free ISBN, that’s a red flag.” – Michele DeFilippo

“If they’re offering to pay you in a royalty, that’s a red flag.” – Michele DeFilippo

“There’s no substitute for an author writing down what’s in their heart.” – Michele DeFilippo

“When in doubt, be kind.” – Rodric Lenhart

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Ready to transform your business and your life while making a difference? Grab your copy of *Million Dollar Flip Flops*—the ultimate guide to creating a life and business that feels just as good as it looks. And here’s the best part: 100% of the proceeds go directly to our foundation, Send a Student Leader Abroad, with a goal of sending 1,000,000 deserving kids on life-changing trips around the world.

As a thank you for your support, we’re offering exclusive bonuses available only for our podcast listeners. These bonuses are packed with extra tools and resources to help you implement the principles from the book faster and more effectively.

Don’t miss this opportunity to gain invaluable insights, impact a young leader’s life, and be a part of something bigger.

Click the link, order your copy, and claim your listener-only bonuses today!

Together, let’s change lives—one trip at a time.

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**P.S.** Every book you buy gets us one step closer to sending 1,000,000 kids on life-changing adventures. Let’s make it happen!

In this episode of Million Dollar Flip Flops, Rodric sits down with Arlene Cohen Miller — former attorney, certified coach, meditation facilitator, and mentor for professional women who are carrying too much for too long.

After spending more than three decades practicing law, building a business, raising a family, and navigating the demands of leadership, Arlene made a major shift. She sold her law practice and dedicated her work to helping people communicate better, negotiate with more clarity, and most importantly, calm their nervous systems so they can actually think, lead, and live well.

Rodric and Arlene talk about anxiety, overwhelm, the pressure so many professionals silently carry, and the role meditation and self-care play in sustainable success. This is a conversation about stress, yes — but more than that, it’s about learning how to listen to yourself, care for yourself, and stop trying to push through life on an empty tank.

• Arlene’s journey from attorney to coach, mentor, and meditation facilitator
• What she learned after 31 years in the legal profession
• Why so many professionals struggle with stress, overwhelm, and constant pressure
• The signs that you may need support instead of just “pushing through”
• Why anxiety can shut down your ability to think, plan, and lead
• How meditation helped Arlene slow down and reconnect with herself
• Why self-care does not have to look like sitting silently for an hour
• Simple breathing and mindfulness tools people can start using right away
• Why professional women often carry more stress than people realize
• How building a real support system can change everything

[00:00] Stress shuts down your brain

Arlene opens with a powerful reminder: when stress gets too high, you stop being able to think, plan, and function clearly.

[01:00] Meet Arlene Cohen Miller

Arlene introduces herself as a former attorney, coach, mentor, facilitator, working mother, and now grandmother.

[01:00] From law to coaching and facilitation

She shares her path from practicing law for 31 years to studying coaching, counseling, and meditation so she could help people more holistically.

[02:00] Who Arlene helps today

Arlene explains why she most connects with professional and executive women, especially those juggling work, family, and relentless pressure.

[03:00] Why the legal profession needs this work

She talks about how much unnecessary stress, conflict, and miscommunication exists in law — and why it doesn’t have to be that way.

[04:00] How do you know you need help?

Rodric asks what symptoms signal someone may need support, and Arlene explains the emotional and physical signs of overwhelm.

[04:00] What stress actually does to your body and mind

Arlene talks about anxiety, racing thoughts, heart palpitations, and the way intense stress can shut down clear thinking.

[06:00] Arlene’s relationship with meditation

She shares how her view of meditation changed over time and how slowing down in nature became part of her practice.

[06:00] Meditation does not have to look “woo woo”

Arlene explains that meditation can be walking slowly, breathing, being outside, or simply learning how to come back into your body.

[08:00] How she helps clients begin

Instead of forcing one method, Arlene meets people where they are and helps them find tools they are actually willing to try.

[08:00] Small tools that help regulate the nervous system

She shares practical ideas like longer exhales, simple breathing exercises, and stepping outside to reset.

[10:00] Rodric’s message about Million Dollar Flip Flops

Rodric shares a quick message about the book and the mission behind Send a Student Leader Abroad.

[10:00] Where to find Arlene

Arlene shares her website, online presence, and where people can learn more about her work.

[11:00] Arlene’s question for the next guest

She asks the next guest a simple but meaningful question: what lights up your life?

[11:00] The question Arlene was asked

Rodric asks what kept her going through the hardest times, and Arlene talks about perseverance, self-determination, and building a tribe.

[12:00] Why community matters

Arlene reflects on how finding support, connection, and like-minded people helped carry her through hard seasons.

[12:00] Arlene’s final message

She leaves listeners with a reminder that self-care and self-love are not optional if you want to lead and live well.

“When we’re really stressed out, we can’t think, we can’t plan, we can’t do anything.” – Arlene Cohen Miller

“If you’re noticing that’s happening to you… you probably need somebody.” – Arlene Cohen Miller

“I found out that I wasn’t really a good listener.” – Arlene Cohen Miller

“It doesn’t have to be sitting quietly and going ‘om.’” – Arlene Cohen Miller

“We’re always better when we come together.” – Arlene Cohen Miller

“If you don’t fill your cup up with love, you’re gonna feel desolate.” – Arlene Cohen Miller

“You can’t fill anyone else’s cup if yours is empty.” – Rodric Lenhart

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Ready to transform your business and your life while making a difference? Grab your copy of *Million Dollar Flip Flops*—the ultimate guide to creating a life and business that feels just as good as it looks. And here’s the best part: 100% of the proceeds go directly to our foundation, Send a Student Leader Abroad, with a goal of sending 1,000,000 deserving kids on life-changing trips around the world.

As a thank you for your support, we’re offering exclusive bonuses available only for our podcast listeners. These bonuses are packed with extra tools and resources to help you implement the principles from the book faster and more effectively.

Don’t miss this opportunity to gain invaluable insights, impact a young leader’s life, and be a part of something bigger.

Click the link, order your copy, and claim your listener-only bonuses today!

Together, let’s change lives—one trip at a time.

www.MillionDollarFlipFlops.com/book

**P.S.** Every book you buy gets us one step closer to sending 1,000,000 kids on life-changing adventures. Let’s make it happen!

In this episode of Million Dollar Flip Flops, Rodric sits down with Colin Herdman — lifelong entrepreneur, co-founder of Monkey Island Ventures, and founder of Rainmaker, a company helping business owners grow their network, leads, and sales using LinkedIn.

Colin shares how he went from launching his first business a week after college to building multiple companies across digital marketing, software development, and LinkedIn growth strategy. Along the way, he’s learned that real business growth still comes down to the same fundamentals: understanding your audience, teaching what you know, and building genuine relationships.

Rodric and Colin also dig into AI, the future of marketing, community building, and why LinkedIn live streams may be one of the most underrated tools available for founders, coaches, and sales leaders today.

This is a conversation about growth, yes — but even more, it’s about authenticity, education, thought leadership, and how to stand out online without becoming just more noise.

• Colin’s journey from college graduate to lifelong entrepreneur
• The story behind Monkey Island Ventures
• What his three companies are focused on today
• Why AI is changing marketing — and what it cannot replace
• Why community may become even more valuable in an AI-heavy world
• Colin’s philosophy for using LinkedIn the right way
• The difference between creating noise and creating trust
• Why educational content beats salesy content on LinkedIn
• How Colin uses LinkedIn live streams to generate leads and referrals
• A step-by-step breakdown of his LinkedIn live stream strategy
• Why repetition and thought leadership matter more than constant content churn

[00:00] Colin’s core LinkedIn philosophy

Colin explains the big idea behind his approach to LinkedIn: authenticity, education, experimentation, and understanding what your audience can learn from you.

[01:00] Meet Colin Herdman

Colin introduces himself as a lifelong entrepreneur who launched his first business one week after college.

[01:00] From criminal justice degree to entrepreneurship

He shares how he never used his degree and instead learned business through experience and the school of hard knocks.

[02:00] The businesses Colin is building today

Colin breaks down the three companies under Monkey Island Ventures: Aurion, Cloudburst, and Rainmaker.

[03:00] What’s changing fastest in marketing right now

Rodric asks Colin about the biggest shifts in marketing, and Colin points straight to AI, automation, and the need for authenticity.

[04:00] Why community matters more than ever

Rodric and Colin talk about how AI may make entrepreneurship even lonelier — and why real community will become even more valuable.

[05:00] What’s next for Colin

Colin shares why he is focused on growing the current businesses while staying open to future opportunities.

[05:00] What Rainmaker actually does

Colin explains how Rainmaker helps founders, coaches, and sales leaders use LinkedIn to grow relationships, leads, and sales.

[06:00] Colin’s philosophy for LinkedIn growth

He outlines the three layers of his strategy: authenticity, educational mindset, and understanding what your audience wants to learn from you.

[08:00] How he identifies the right audience

Colin explains how he uses Sales Navigator and ICP-based targeting to define who to connect with.

[09:00] Why first connections matter

He shares why his team reaches out to around 100 people a week and why growing a first-degree network is foundational.

[10:00] The three campaign types he uses

Colin walks through the main campaign formats he uses: drip messaging, LinkedIn polls, and live streams.

[11:00] Why LinkedIn live streams are the biggest opportunity

He explains why live streams are powerful, why LinkedIn is leaning into them, and why they cut through AI-driven sameness.

[12:00] How Colin structures live streams

Colin shares how he chooses a specific audience and a repeatable 101-level topic that can be taught over and over again.

[14:00] Why repetition works better than constant reinvention

He explains why repeating great content to the right audience is smarter than always creating something new.

[14:00] How LinkedIn event invites do the heavy lifting

Colin shares how LinkedIn’s event system helps drive awareness, reminders, and attendance without feeling spammy.

[16:00] The real power of the follow-up

After each live stream, Colin follows up with attendees in a thoughtful way that opens the door for natural next-step conversations.

[18:00] How live streams build long-term trust

Colin explains how repeated educational live streams create awareness, thought leadership, and referral momentum over time.

[20:00] Where to find Colin

He shares where people can connect with him, download his live stream resource, and learn more.

[21:00] Colin’s question for the next guest

Colin asks the next guest what book most helped them implement growth and strategy in their business.

[21:00] The question Colin was asked

Colin reflects on the importance of turning inward and trying to stay true to who he is.

“Nobody wants to be sold on LinkedIn.” – Colin Herdman

“What is it that they can learn from me? What can I teach?” – Colin Herdman

“The real opportunity is on LinkedIn when you know what your audience can learn from you.” – Colin Herdman

“It’s all about authenticity. It’s all about education. It’s all about you.” – Colin Herdman

“You don’t have to keep creating new content all the time.” – Colin Herdman

“What happens over time is you become top of mind for whatever topics you continually present on.” – Colin Herdman

“It’s all about sending the elevator back down.” – Rodric Lenhart

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📖 Book: Million Dollar Flip Flops

📖 Book: The Magnet, Method & Machine

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Ready to transform your business and your life while making a difference? Grab your copy of *Million Dollar Flip Flops*—the ultimate guide to creating a life and business that feels just as good as it looks. And here’s the best part: 100% of the proceeds go directly to our foundation, Send a Student Leader Abroad, with a goal of sending 1,000,000 deserving kids on life-changing trips around the world.

As a thank you for your support, we’re offering exclusive bonuses available only for our podcast listeners. These bonuses are packed with extra tools and resources to help you implement the principles from the book faster and more effectively.

Don’t miss this opportunity to gain invaluable insights, impact a young leader’s life, and be a part of something bigger.

Click the link, order your copy, and claim your listener-only bonuses today!

Together, let’s change lives—one trip at a time.

www.MillionDollarFlipFlops.com/book

**P.S.** Every book you buy gets us one step closer to sending 1,000,000 kids on life-changing adventures. Let’s make it happen!

In this episode of Million Dollar Flip Flops, Rodric sits down with Mike Wood — construction executive, husband, father, and founder of Learn to Love Being You, a program designed to help people free themselves from anxiety and depression.

Mike shares his deeply personal story of growing up with negative core beliefs, struggling silently for decades, and eventually realizing that success on the outside did nothing to fix the pain on the inside. Even after building a life that looked “successful” by every external measure — money, family, house, healthy kids — he found himself more miserable than ever.

That breaking point became the turning point.

What followed was a journey inward: healing old beliefs, reprogramming the subconscious mind, and discovering that the very things he thought were broken in him were actually patterns he could understand and change.

Rodric and Mike also talk about leadership, construction, emotional healing, mental health in men, and how the work we do on ourselves always shows up in our businesses, teams, and families.

This is a conversation about anxiety and depression, yes — but more than that, it’s about ownership, healing, and learning how to become the kind of leader who changes everything around him.

• Mike’s story of struggling with anxiety and depression for most of his life
• How negative childhood beliefs shaped his adult success and suffering
• Why achieving “everything” on paper still left him miserable
• The subconscious pattern Mike uncovered that changed everything
• How reframing old emotional moments can lead to real healing
• Why men often suffer in silence
• How inner healing changed Mike’s leadership in business
• The story of a million-dollar flood and the leadership lesson it created
• Why you are not broken — you just may not understand your operating system

[00:00] Success without peace is still misery

Mike opens with the powerful truth that even after achieving everything he thought would make him happy, he was still deeply unhappy.

[01:00] Meet Mike Wood

Mike introduces himself as a construction executive and someone whose real mission is helping people rid themselves of anxiety and depression.

[01:00] Construction, books, and parallel paths

Rodric and Mike connect over construction, coaching, and the overlap in their personal journeys.

[02:00] What led Mike down this path

Mike shares how years of anxiety, depression, and negative self-belief became the foundation for the work he now does.

[02:00] The childhood story that shaped everything

Mike explains how struggling to spell his own name in kindergarten created a subconscious belief that he wasn’t smart enough.

[04:00] How subconscious beliefs get programmed

Mike breaks down how emotional moments paired with clear intention can wire limiting beliefs into the subconscious mind.

[05:00] The healing process that changed his life

Mike explains how going back to those early moments, reframing them, and releasing them changed his life forever.

[06:00] Why the subconscious holds onto pain

Mike shares how the subconscious mind tries to protect us, even when the very thing it’s doing is hurting us.

[07:00] Why men suffer in silence

Rodric and Mike talk about how men are often taught not to share emotions, even when they are deeply struggling.

[08:00] When did Mike start figuring it out?

Mike shares when he turned inward and began experimenting with books, meditation, healing work, and deeper self-awareness.

[09:00] How healing changed Mike’s business life

Mike explains how personal growth transformed the way he led inside the construction company.

[10:00] The million-dollar flood leadership story

Mike tells the story of a disastrous flood and how taking full ownership changed the entire energy of the room and the company.

[12:00] Why the business always reflects the leader

Rodric and Mike talk about how emotional patterns, leadership issues, and business problems are always connected.

[14:00] Mike’s question for the next guest

Mike asks the next guest whether they’ve been able to turn inward in relation to life and business.

[15:00] The question Mike was asked

Mike answers a powerful question about what measure would have predicted failure early in his life.

[16:00] Mike’s message to anyone listening

Mike closes with a powerful reminder: you are not broken — you just may not yet understand how your mind is trying to protect you.

“I literally achieved everything… and I was more miserable than I was when I was 18 and miserable.” – Mike Wood

“I stopped looking to the outside world for excuses and reasons to get better, and I turned my focus inward.” – Mike Wood

“Your subconscious mind is really just trying to protect you.” – Mike Wood

“When you learn to do it yourself, it spreads to your company.” – Mike Wood

“It makes you a real leader.” – Mike Wood

“Men are suffering in silence.” – Mike Wood

“You’re not broken. You just don’t understand your operating system.” – Mike Wood

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Ready to transform your business and your life while making a difference? Grab your copy of *Million Dollar Flip Flops*—the ultimate guide to creating a life and business that feels just as good as it looks. And here’s the best part: 100% of the proceeds go directly to our foundation, Send a Student Leader Abroad, with a goal of sending 1,000,000 deserving kids on life-changing trips around the world.

As a thank you for your support, we’re offering exclusive bonuses available only for our podcast listeners. These bonuses are packed with extra tools and resources to help you implement the principles from the book faster and more effectively.

Don’t miss this opportunity to gain invaluable insights, impact a young leader’s life, and be a part of something bigger.

Click the link, order your copy, and claim your listener-only bonuses today!

Together, let’s change lives—one trip at a time.

www.MillionDollarFlipFlops.com/book

**P.S.** Every book you buy gets us one step closer to sending 1,000,000 kids on life-changing adventures. Let’s make it happen!

In this episode of Million Dollar Flip Flops, Rodric sits down with Eric Dingler — digital marketing agency owner, leadership coach, nonprofit founder, husband, father of four teenagers, and full-time digital nomad traveling the world with his family.

Eric shares how a simple idea to try life on the road turned into four years of full-time travel across more than 50 homes and multiple countries, all while running businesses remotely and homeschooling their kids along the way.

But this conversation goes way beyond travel.

Rodric and Eric dive into digital marketing, leadership, hiring, remote teams, entrepreneurship, and why your leadership capacity ultimately determines the capacity of your business, your family, and your life.

This is a conversation about freedom, yes — but more than that, it’s about building the systems, leadership, and courage required to actually live the life you say you want.

• How Eric and his family became full-time digital nomads with four teenagers
• What long-term travel actually costs and how they made it work
• Why giving kids a passport may be one of the best gifts a parent can give
• How Eric built and runs a digital marketing agency while traveling full-time
• Why local SEO still matters for small businesses
• How Eric’s coaching business evolved from lead generation into leadership
• Why leadership capacity determines business capacity
• The framework Eric teaches for hiring and leading remote teams
• What being a “first-time customer” in 55 different places taught him about marketing

[00:00] Leadership sets the ceiling

Eric opens with a powerful belief: your leadership capacity becomes the ceiling for your business, your family, and your life.

[01:00] Meet Eric Dingler

Eric introduces himself as a digital marketing agency owner, coach, nonprofit founder, husband, father of four, and full-time digital nomad.

[02:00] Why travel became the lifestyle

Eric shares how a conversation about camper-van life eventually turned into a three-month test run in Istanbul — and then a full-time family adventure.

[03:00] Selling almost everything and hitting the road

Eric explains how they made the leap, what changed, and why the family decided they wanted to keep going.

[04:00] What it really costs to travel the world as a family

Eric breaks down the practical side of full-time travel and why they simply used their normal U.S. budget as the framework.

[05:00] Worldschooling, homeschooling, and real-life learning

Eric talks about how their kids learn through place-based education, history, and direct cultural experience.

[06:00] The hardest part of the lifestyle

Eric shares what surprised him most, including how difficult it can be when family and friends don’t fully understand the choice.

[07:00] What Eric’s digital marketing agency actually does

Eric explains how his agency helps local businesses rank better, get found online, and bring in more customers through websites, SEO, and reviews.

[08:00] Why home builders are a different marketing animal

Eric and Rodric talk about why marketing for builders is very different from typical local service businesses.

[08:00] How Eric’s coaching business began

Eric shares how people kept asking how he built his lifestyle and business, which led him first into lead generation coaching.

[09:00] Why lead generation wasn’t the real issue

Eric explains how he discovered that clients could get leads but still got stuck because they had no team, systems, or leadership infrastructure.

[10:00] Leadership is the real lever

Eric talks about his years leading summer camp teams and how that shaped the leadership framework he now teaches business owners.

[11:00] Hiring your first remote team members

Eric explains how he helps owners recruit, onboard, delegate to, and develop remote team members.

[13:00] Where to find Eric

Eric shares where people can connect with him, his agency, and his coaching business.

[14:00] A question for the next guest

Eric asks what the version of themselves 10 years from now would want them focused on today.

[15:00] The book that helped Eric implement growth

Eric shares the book that most impacted his business execution and planning: The 4 Disciplines of Execution.

[16:00] What travel taught Eric about marketing

Eric reflects on how becoming a “full-time first-time customer” changed the way he sees local business marketing.

[17:00] The email capture lesson most businesses still miss

Eric explains why not collecting customer emails is one of the biggest marketing mistakes local businesses make.

“Your leadership capacity is the capacity of your business, your life, your family.” – Eric Dingler

“Lead better, you’ll live better.” – Eric Dingler

“One of the best gifts a parent can give to their kids is a passport.” – Eric Dingler

“I can’t adopt all the kids, but I can help equip more families to adopt.” – Eric Dingler

“I can’t give everybody a job, but I can help all of these people employ all of these people and lead them well.” – Eric Dingler

“If you own a business and you’re interacting with the public and you’re not capturing email addresses, it’s business malpractice.” – Eric Dingler

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Ready to transform your business and your life while making a difference? Grab your copy of *Million Dollar Flip Flops*—the ultimate guide to creating a life and business that feels just as good as it looks. And here’s the best part: 100% of the proceeds go directly to our foundation, Send a Student Leader Abroad, with a goal of sending 1,000,000 deserving kids on life-changing trips around the world.

As a thank you for your support, we’re offering exclusive bonuses available only for our podcast listeners. These bonuses are packed with extra tools and resources to help you implement the principles from the book faster and more effectively.

Don’t miss this opportunity to gain invaluable insights, impact a young leader’s life, and be a part of something bigger.

Click the link, order your copy, and claim your listener-only bonuses today!

Together, let’s change lives—one trip at a time.

www.MillionDollarFlipFlops.com/book

**P.S.** Every book you buy gets us one step closer to sending 1,000,000 kids on life-changing adventures. Let’s make it happen!

In this episode of Million Dollar Flip Flops, Rodric sits down with Matt Morizio — former professional baseball player, husband, father of seven (with number eight on the way), entrepreneur, and founder of Reconstructing Wealth.

Matt shares the winding road from five seasons in the Kansas City Royals organization to becoming a wealth manager who helps entrepreneurial families rethink their relationship with money. What started as a desperate search for work after baseball became a calling to help people not just grow wealth, but rebuild the way they think and feel about money altogether.

Rodric and Matt also dive into youth sports, entrepreneurship, coaching, masculine leadership, and what it means to be successful without losing the people who matter most. This is a conversation about money, yes — but more than that, it’s about identity, family, freedom, and living with intention.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• Matt’s journey from pro baseball to entrepreneurship and wealth management
• Why competitive athletes often make strong entrepreneurs
• The surprising book that changed Matt’s view of investing forever
• How most people’s biggest money problem is not money — it’s fear of the unknown
• Why emotional freedom around money matters more than just “having enough”
• How generosity can actually rewire your relationship with money
• Why Matt believes entrepreneurial families need unconventional advice for unconventional lives
• A powerful reflection on legacy, family, and becoming the man your future self would respect

[00:00] A book that changed everything

Matt shares how Dancing with the Analysts introduced him to a completely different investing philosophy — one that ultimately led him into wealth management.

[01:00] Meet Matt Morizio

Matt introduces himself as a husband, father, entrepreneur, former professional athlete, and wealth manager.

[02:00] Baseball, family, and a full-circle moment

Matt talks about his five years in the Kansas City Royals system and returning to spring training with his son.

[04:00] Do athletes make better entrepreneurs?

Rodric and Matt explore the connection between competitive sports, resilience, and entrepreneurship.

[09:00] How Matt got into wealth management

Matt shares the story of getting released from baseball, starting a family, needing income fast, and stumbling into a staffing role that eventually opened the door to finance.

[12:00] The investment model that made him change careers

Matt explains how reading Dancing with the Analysts showed him a model of wealth management that felt truly valuable and different.

[14:00] Who Matt helps now

Matt breaks down his ideal client: entrepreneurial, unconventional, growth-minded people who challenge the status quo.

[17:00] Rodric’s book and SASLA message

Rodric shares a quick message about Million Dollar Flip Flops and the foundation behind it.

[19:00] A father-son trip and advice to a 14-year-old self

Matt shares a deeply personal story about taking his son on a “coming of age” trip and reflects on what advice matters most.

[21:00] What would your future self want from you now?

Matt answers a powerful question about what 10-years-older Matt would want him focused on today.

[22:00] Matt’s real message about money

Matt explains why true financial freedom is emotional, not just mathematical — and why money fear is usually fear of the unknown.

[24:00] Education + generosity = freedom

Matt shares why learning how money actually works, combined with generosity, can radically change your life.

“I’ve learned that anybody can understand how the game of money works.” – Matt Morizio

“Unconventional lives often require unconventional advice.” – Matt Morizio

“Financial freedom really is about emotionally detaching from your money.” – Matt Morizio

“It’s not even fear of money at all. It’s fear of the unknown.” – Matt Morizio

“The sooner you’re willing to give it away as part of your plan… that biologically rewires your subconscious to no longer be fearful of it.” – Matt Morizio

“I want to be most loved and respected by the people who know me most.” – Matt Morizio

• 🌍 https://reconstructingwealth.com

• 🔗 https://www.instagram.com/reconstructingwealth/
• 🔗 https://www.instagram.com/mattmorizio/

• 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattmorizio/

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🌍 Foundation: Send a Student Leader Abroad (SASLA)

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Ready to transform your business and your life while making a difference? Grab your copy of *Million Dollar Flip Flops*—the ultimate guide to creating a life and business that feels just as good as it looks. And here’s the best part: 100% of the proceeds go directly to our foundation, Send a Student Leader Abroad, with a goal of sending 1,000,000 deserving kids on life-changing trips around the world.

As a thank you for your support, we’re offering exclusive bonuses available only for our podcast listeners. These bonuses are packed with extra tools and resources to help you implement the principles from the book faster and more effectively.

Don’t miss this opportunity to gain invaluable insights, impact a young leader’s life, and be a part of something bigger.

Click the link, order your copy, and claim your listener-only bonuses today!

Together, let’s change lives—one trip at a time.

www.MillionDollarFlipFlops.com/book

**P.S.** Every book you buy gets us one step closer to sending 1,000,000 kids on life-changing adventures. Let’s make it happen!

In this episode of Million Dollar Flip Flops, Rodric sits down with Tim Beattie — founder of Stellafai, former consultant, transformation expert, and a thoughtful voice on the intersection of AI, coaching, consulting, and measurable outcomes.

After spending more than two decades inside major consulting firms and boutique advisory businesses, Tim saw the same problem again and again: too much waste, too little clarity, and not nearly enough focus on outcomes that actually matter.

What followed was a journey into rethinking how coaches, consultants, and professional services firms deliver value. Instead of centering engagements around time, activity, or vague deliverables, Tim is focused on helping experts anchor everything around real outcomes, measurable progress, and longer-lasting impact.

Rodric and Tim dig into where AI can genuinely support transformation work, where it still falls short, and why human connection, facilitation, trust, and community may become even more valuable in the years ahead.

This is a conversation about technology, yes — but more than that, it’s about people, change, coaching, energy, and what really creates lasting transformation.

• Tim’s journey from traditional consulting to building Stellafai
• Why most consulting and coaching engagements waste too much time and money
• Why outcomes should anchor every client engagement
• The difference between information and actual transformation
• How AI can amplify coaching instead of replacing it
• Why facilitation, trust, and emotional safety matter so much
• The growing importance of community in an AI-driven world
• Why coaches may need to become more “in your pocket” than “once-a-month”
• What Tim believes truly drives impact and meaningful change

[00:00] A vision for AI in coaching and consulting

Tim explains how AI could become a powerful amplifier for learning and coaching — if it is built on the right human foundation.

[01:00] Meet Tim Beattie

Tim introduces himself as a “recovering consultant” and shares his background across big consulting firms, boutique advisory businesses, and transformation work.

[02:00] Why consulting needs to evolve

Tim talks about the inefficiencies, waste, and money hemorrhage he saw in traditional consulting — and why he went searching for a better model.

[03:00] Outcomes before everything else

Tim explains why every coaching or consulting engagement has to start with the client’s actual problem, desired outcome, and measurable progress.

[04:00] Rodric on AI, humanity, and soft skills

Rodric shares how a late-night AI rabbit hole sparked bigger questions about emotion, humanity, and why community may matter more than ever going forward.

[05:00] What AI still cannot replace

Tim breaks down the invisible energy inside a great room: trust, safety, facilitation, and the human magic of shared conversation.

[07:00] Why community is becoming more valuable

Rodric talks about his coaching groups and why real builders sharing openly in a trusted room creates value no AI tool can replicate.

[09:00] Inspiration vs transformation

Tim shares why a great keynote or coaching session can inspire people — but sustained change requires a different layer of support.

[11:00] The “coach in your pocket” idea

Tim explains why modern coaching and consulting may need to become more flexible, more available, and more embedded in real life.

[14:00] What Stellafai actually is

Tim walks through the meaning behind Stellafai, how the company started, and how it helps teams and consultants connect work to measurable outcomes.

[17:00] Rodric’s message about Million Dollar Flip Flops

Rodric shares a brief message about the book, the framework, and the mission behind SASLA.

[19:00] Who Stellafai serves today

Tim explains how the platform supports coaches, consultants, and professional services organizations that want to modernize how they deliver value.

[20:00] Where to find Tim

Tim shares where people can connect with him, use the platform, and book time.

[21:00] A question for the next guest

Tim asks what measure someone would put in place on day one of their career to know whether that career would be successful.

[21:00] What would you do if you knew you couldn’t fail?

Tim gives a thoughtful answer about learning, pushing limits, and why testing boundaries is how real growth happens.

[22:00] What really motivates Tim

Tim closes with a powerful reflection on what drives him: helping people thrive in measurable, meaningful ways.

“If we can feed and build brains and brain cells based on the learning and the conversations and the journey that clients go on with great facilitation and great coaching, then I think an AI model can actually really help amplify and continue to leverage that learning.” – Tim Beattie

“It’s not about the knowledge, it’s not about the script, it’s not about the low-level detail. It’s about how you feel.” – Tim Beattie

“The information that comes out of collaborative sessions and conversations from communities, that is the thing that fuels everything when it comes to change.” – Tim Beattie

“I don’t think AI can replace it.” – Tim Beattie

“Inspiration is one thing. Actioning the change is another.” – Tim Beattie

“What motivates me? Seeing people thrive in a really measurable and impactful way.” – Tim Beattie

🌐 Website:https://stellafai.com

🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timbeattie/

📲 Platform: Free access available through Stellafai

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📖 Book: Million Dollar Flip Flops

🌍 Foundation: Send a Student Leader Abroad (SASLA)

If this episode made you think differently about AI, coaching, consulting, or what really creates transformation, share it with someone who needs to hear it.

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Ready to transform your business and your life while making a difference? Grab your copy of *Million Dollar Flip Flops*—the ultimate guide to creating a life and business that feels just as good as it looks. And here’s the best part: 100% of the proceeds go directly to our foundation, Send a Student Leader Abroad, with a goal of sending 1,000,000 deserving kids on life-changing trips around the world.

As a thank you for your support, we’re offering exclusive bonuses available only for our podcast listeners. These bonuses are packed with extra tools and resources to help you implement the principles from the book faster and more effectively.

Don’t miss this opportunity to gain invaluable insights, impact a young leader’s life, and be a part of something bigger.

Click the link, order your copy, and claim your listener-only bonuses today!

Together, let’s change lives—one trip at a time.

www.MillionDollarFlipFlops.com/book

**P.S.** Every book you buy gets us one step closer to sending 1,000,000 kids on life-changing adventures. Let’s make it happen!

In this episode of Million Dollar Flip Flops, Rodric sits down with Victoria Pelletier for a sharp, timely conversation about leadership, transformation, AI, and what the future of work really looks like.

Victoria shares her path from banking operations to becoming a corporate executive, board member, speaker, and transformation leader. Together, she and Rodric unpack what’s really happening with AI in the workplace, why many companies may be using it as a cover for layoffs, and what skills will still matter when automation takes over more of the technical work.

They also talk about the role of empathy, creativity, and trust in leadership, why community is becoming more valuable in an AI-heavy world, and how the most important human skills may actually become the biggest differentiator going forward.

This episode is a must-listen for leaders, entrepreneurs, and anyone trying to understand how to adapt — without losing the human side of business.

1. Victoria’s journey from banking into executive leadership and transformation work
2. Why some companies may be blaming layoffs on AI before they’ve even implemented it properly
3. The difference between true AI transformation and corporate fear-driven messaging
4. Why the future of work will require more creativity, empathy, and complex problem-solving
5. How AI may replace tasks, but not the human trust needed to build great businesses
6. Why community and human connection are becoming even more important in an AI-driven world
7. How Victoria evolved into a paid speaker and thought leader
8. Why conviction creates capacity — and how leaders find a way to do what matters most

[00:00] Victoria’s concern about AI and layoffs

Victoria opens with a candid take on AI, why she believes some companies are blaming layoffs on AI too early, and how that’s fueling fear across the workforce.

[01:00] Who is Victoria Pelletier?

Victoria introduces herself as a multipotentialite — corporate executive, board member, author, speaker, wife, mom, and more.

[02:00] From banking to executive leadership

Victoria shares how she originally planned to become a lawyer, got recruited into banking, and eventually stepped into her first executive role at just 24 years old.

[03:00] What really worries Victoria about AI

She explains why she believes the biggest concern isn’t just the technology itself, but how organizations are using it to justify workforce changes before they’ve even figured out what AI can really do.

[04:00] AI, workforce redesign, and the need to re-architect roles

Victoria talks about the importance of role redesign, organizational planning, and why so many companies are unprepared for what comes next.

[05:00] Replacing blue-collar work was one thing — replacing white-collar thinking is another

Rodric and Victoria discuss how AI is now targeting knowledge work and what that means for the future of employment.

[06:00] Why empathy and human skills will matter even more

Victoria explains that the work left for humans will require more creativity, compassion, and judgment — especially in moments where rules and automation break down.

[07:00] Why people still do business with people they trust

Rodric reflects on the importance of community, relationships, and creating spaces where people can still connect in real ways.

[08:00] Victoria’s journey into speaking

Victoria shares how her speaking career evolved from conference slots in professional services into a broader platform focused on leadership, transformation, DEI, and the future of work.

[09:00] Learning to charge for expertise

She talks honestly about how uncomfortable it felt at first to ask to be paid for speaking — and why getting over that matters.

[10:00] Where to find Victoria

Victoria shares her website and the platforms where listeners can connect with her.

[10:00] Victoria’s question for the next guest

She asks the next guest what they would do if fear or failure were no consequence.

[11:00] Why Victoria really does what she does

Answering the previous guest’s question, Victoria explains that she thrives on challenge, loves questioning the status quo, and wants to be a different kind of leader than the ones she experienced.

[11:30] What Rodric didn’t ask

Victoria shares the question she gets all the time — “How do you fit it all in?” — and her answer: where there is conviction, there is capacity.

“A couple of things really worry me right now… I think there are many companies who are excusing their layoffs as a result of AI when most of them don’t even have initial proof of concepts fully rolled out.” – Victoria Pelletier

“By the time you’re speaking to a human agent, it usually doesn’t follow the logical workflow.” – Victoria Pelletier

“People do business with people that they like and they trust.” – Victoria Pelletier

“Where there’s conviction, there’s capacity.” – Victoria Pelletier

“I thrive on challenge. I challenge the status quo.” – Victoria Pelletier

1. 🌍 Official site: victoriapelletier.com

1. 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoriapelletier

You may find her on:

1. 🔗 https://www.instagram.com/victoria_pelletier_unstoppable/
2. 🔗 https://www.instagram.com/vpelletier29/

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Ready to transform your business and your life while making a difference? Grab your copy of *Million Dollar Flip Flops*—the ultimate guide to creating a life and business that feels just as good as it looks. And here’s the best part: 100% of the proceeds go directly to our foundation, Send a Student Leader Abroad, with a goal of sending 1,000,000 deserving kids on life-changing trips around the world.

As a thank you for your support, we’re offering exclusive bonuses available only for our podcast listeners. These bonuses are packed with extra tools and resources to help you implement the principles from the book faster and more effectively.

Don’t miss this opportunity to gain invaluable insights, impact a young leader’s life, and be a part of something bigger.

Click the link, order your copy, and claim your listener-only bonuses today!

Together, let’s change lives—one trip at a time.

www.MillionDollarFlipFlops.com/book

**P.S.** Every book you buy gets us one step closer to sending 1,000,000 kids on life-changing adventures. Let’s make it happen!

In this episode of Million Dollar Flip Flops, Rodric sits down with entrepreneur, speaker, and thought leadership expert Nicky Billou for a powerful conversation about freedom, faith, entrepreneurship, and what it really means to serve people through business.

Nicky shares the incredible story of escaping Iran as a boy during the Islamic Revolution, how his family fled tyranny for freedom, and the life-changing example set by his father—a man who believed business was never about money first, but always about people.

From there, the conversation dives into entrepreneurship, podcast guesting, relationship-driven business growth, and why the best opportunities still come from genuine human connection—not from hiding behind social media or waiting for algorithms to save you.

This is a high-energy, deeply personal conversation about courage, conviction, and building a business that actually stands for something.

1. Nicky’s story of fleeing Iran during the Islamic Revolution and starting over in the West
2. Why freedom matters so deeply to entrepreneurs and what happens when it disappears
3. The life-changing lessons Nicky learned from his father about generosity, service, and people-first business
4. Why great business is built on solving problems for people—not chasing money
5. How podcast guesting can create real relationships, real trust, and real revenue
6. Why human connection still beats hiding behind social media and automation
7. The importance of belief—both in yourself and in the people you serve
8. Why authenticity and courage in business matter more now than ever

[00:00] Freedom, tyranny, and why entrepreneurship matters

Nicky opens with a passionate reflection on freedom, entrepreneurship, and why free enterprise is impossible without liberty.

[01:00] Escaping Iran during the Islamic Revolution

Nicky shares the dramatic story of growing up in Iran during the revolution, including the moment a Molotov cocktail crashed through his family’s window.

[03:00] From Iran to Greece to Canada

After years of uncertainty and waiting, Nicky’s family finally immigrates to Canada, leaving behind tyranny for a chance at freedom.

[04:00] The incredible example set by Nicky’s father

Nicky tells moving stories about his father’s generosity, faith, and unwavering belief that life—and business—are about people, not money.

[06:00] Why business is about solving problems for people

A core lesson from Nicky’s father: help people first, solve real problems, and profit will follow.

[07:00] Who Nicky helps today

Nicky explains how he now works with entrepreneurs, coaches, and consultants to help them overcome self-doubt, clarify their message, and grow authority-based businesses.

[09:00] Building a thought leader brand and using podcast guesting to grow

Nicky shares how podcast guesting has become one of his most powerful business growth tools—and why he’s become known for helping people monetize it.

[11:00] Why relationships beat “hope marketing” every time

Instead of hoping strangers click a link, Nicky explains why the real ROI comes from genuine relationships with hosts, audiences, and collaborators.

[14:00] Business cruises, high-level conversations, and unexpected opportunity

Nicky shares a real-world story of speaking on a business cruise and walking away with deep connections and tens of thousands of dollars in closed business.

[18:00] What Rodric is teaching both kids and entrepreneurs

Rodric reflects on teaching sixth and seventh graders the same lesson he teaches grown business owners: get out from behind the screen and go talk to real people.

[20:00] The question for the next guest

Nicky asks the next guest what the last physical book they read was, why they read it, and what they got from it.

[21:00] The last movie that changed Nicky’s perspective on business

Nicky talks about watching Magnum Force and how it reinforced a powerful lesson about authenticity, courage, and speaking up for what matters.

[24:00] Why Nicky refuses to stay silent

Nicky shares why he chose to speak openly about freedom, Iran, and what he believes—even if it could cost him business.

[25:00] Where to find Nicky

Nicky shares where listeners can connect with him online and book a conversation.

“Entrepreneurs… freedom means more to them than anything.” – Nicky Billou

“Life’s about people, not about money. Even business is about people, not about money.” – Nicky Billou

“All business is, is you solve problems for people and then you get to make a profit.” – Nicky Billou

“Everybody goes through life and their self-belief wobbles at one time or another… your job is to see their greatness.” – Nicky Billou

“Coming on podcasts is a chance to make a friend.” – Nicky Billou

“Don’t hope. Be a good person. Build a relationship with the audience, build a relationship with the host.” – Nicky Billou

1. 🌍 Website: https://ecircleacademy.com
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1. https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickybillou/

1. https://www.instagram.com/nickybillou/

1. https://facebook.com/thethoughtleaderrevolution

1. https://www.youtube.com/@nickybillou (channel used for interviews, thought-leadership talks, and podcasts)

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In this episode of Million Dollar Flip Flops, Rodric sits down with Bill Shander — information designer, data storyteller, LinkedIn Learning instructor, and author of Stakeholder Whispering.

If you’ve ever:

1. Crushed your team with bullet-heavy PowerPoints
2. Watched people’s eyes glaze over when you show a data table
3. Thought “Yeah… I kind of know what this spreadsheet means”
4. Or worried how AI is about to crash-land into your industry

…this conversation is going to land.

Bill has spent 30+ years helping organizations turn complex data into clear, visual stories that real humans actually understand — from giant consulting firms and governments to nonprofits and corporates in every vertical. Now he mostly teaches that craft and helps people communicate better with data.

Together, we dive into:

1. 📊 What an information designer actually does
2. 🧠 Why our brains struggle with tables but instantly “get” charts
3. 🧵 How data storytelling works (and why we forget to tell stories when numbers appear)
4. 🧩 The universal problem: everyone has data; almost no one communicates it well
5. 💼 Why “everyone” is Bill’s client — HR, finance, marketing, analytics, government, NGOs & more
6. 📘 His book Stakeholder Whispering and why “Uncover what people need before doing what they ask” is the whole game
7. 🔍 The danger of taking stakeholder requests at face value (“We need blue buttons!”)
8. ❓ Using 5 Whys and better conversations to discover the real need
9. 🎨 Why everyone is a designer (yes, even accountants) because everything is a user experience
10. 🤖 Bill’s very grounded concerns about AI:
11. Not “Terminator”…
12. But short–medium term disruption, chaos, and an unprepared society
13. 🧬 What makes us meaningfully different from AI:
14. Empathy
15. Curiosity
16. Discernment
17. Stakeholder whispering and asking better questions
18. 🧰 How to survive and thrive in an AI world by doubling down on human skills
19. 💡 Why you should think of yourself as an experience designer in whatever work you do

If you create presentations, reports, dashboards, or anything where people need to understand data — this episode will help you reframe how you build and share them.

1. Data isn’t the point. Meaning is.
2. Your audience doesn’t need all the numbers; they need the story behind the numbers.
3. Tables are for storage. Charts are for humans.
4. We think we understand tables. Research says otherwise. Visuals win almost every time.
5. Stakeholders rarely ask for what they truly need.
6. “Make the button blue” ≠ the real requirement. Ask why, then ask why again.
7. Everything you create is a user experience.
8. Slides, dashboards, emails, reports, a simple graphic — they all create emotional responses.
9. AI is powerful, but it’s not a discernment engine.
10. It reacts to prompts. Humans decide what should be done and why.
11. Your unfair advantage in an AI world is your humanity.
12. Empathy, curiosity, big-picture thinking, and meaningful conversations will only become more valuable.

(Adjust to your final edit as needed.)

0:00 – “I am concerned about AI…”

0:18 – Intro – Million Dollar Flip Flops

1:00 – Meet Bill Shander: information designer & what that actually means

1:40 – Why visualizing data (charts, maps, flowcharts) makes everything click

2:10 – Humans, stories, and pictures: 100,000 years of evolution

2:40 – Bill’s path: English major → journalism → web design → data visualization

3:30 – Falling into information design & why it fits his journalism roots

4:05 – Who needs this? The “knowledge worker” problem (PowerPoints from hell)

4:40 – Signs your data communication is broken: glazed eyes & bullet overload

5:20 – We know how to tell stories… until numbers show up

6:00 – Rodric on lead sequences and using infographics so everyone finally “gets it”

6:45 – Bill’s client base: literally everyone (corporate, government, NGOs, all verticals)

7:30 – Introducing Stakeholder Whispering and why “blue buttons” are not the point

8:10 – From “make it blue” to “we need noticeable buttons” — defining real needs

8:50 – Needs assessment vs true needs; why “what do you need?” is the wrong question

9:45 – Root cause analysis and the 5 Whys

10:20 – Where to find Bill: LinkedIn + LinkedIn Learning courses

10:50 – Sponsor: Million Dollar Flip Flops book + foundation plug

11:40 – Listener question for Bill: “What were you concerned about that you positively impacted?”

12:00 – Bill’s answer: AI concern & his realistic, non-doom take

12:40 – Short–medium-term disruption, chaos & our lack of societal readiness

13:10 – What Bill is doing about it: speaking, teaching, and reframing the conversation

13:40 – The uniquely human skills we must double down on: empathy, curiosity, communication

14:15 – AI as “information,” humans as “discernment” & meaning

14:45 – Prompting AI well still requires deep understanding of what you actually need

15:20 – “AI slop to the power of AI slop”

15:50 – Everything is a user experience — even a spreadsheet or a widget

16:20 – Why you’re a designer whether you know it or not

16:50 – How owning your role as an experience designer changes your work

17:20 – Wrap up: where to follow Bill & final thoughts

“People don’t need your data. They need the meaning behind your data.”

“When you show people a table, they think they understand it. When you show them a chart, they actually do.”

“Your boss asking for blue buttons doesn’t mean they need blue buttons. It means they need noticeable buttons.”

“AI will do exactly what you tell it to. Humans are still responsible for deciding what’s worth doing.”

“Everything you create is a user experience. You’re designing how people feel when they interact with your work.”

🔗 Official Website: https://billshander.com

🔹 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billshander

🔹 LinkedIn Learning Courses: https://www.linkedin.com/learning/instructors/bill-shander

📘 Book

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Ready to transform your business and your life while making a difference? Grab your copy of *Million Dollar Flip Flops*—the ultimate guide to creating a life and business that feels just as good as it looks. And here’s the best part: 100% of the proceeds go directly to our foundation, Send a Student Leader Abroad, with a goal of sending 1,000,000 deserving kids on life-changing trips around the world.

As a thank you for your support, we’re offering exclusive bonuses available only for our podcast listeners. These bonuses are packed with extra tools and resources to help you implement the principles from the book faster and more effectively.

Don’t miss this opportunity to gain invaluable insights, impact a young leader’s life, and be a part of something bigger.

Click the link, order your copy, and claim your listener-only bonuses today!

Together, let’s change lives—one trip at a time.

www.MillionDollarFlipFlops.com/book

**P.S.** Every book you buy gets us one step closer to sending 1,000,000 kids on life-changing adventures. Let’s make it happen!