Jordan Ryan talks with Justin Demoss about the world of wildland firefighting, focusing on smokejumpers and hotshots. Justin shares his firefighting journey, highlighting the importance of physical and mental fitness. They discuss deployment, training, and fitness advancements, as well as balancing performance and wellness in the off-season. The episode introduces Hot Shot Wellness and the Wildland Adventure Resilience Program, emphasizing family dynamics and resilience. They also explore the ties between veterans, the military community, and the coffee business, along with using surf therapy as a therapeutic activity.
Ep. 25 | Hotshots: Wildland Firefighting Special Ops | Justin DeMoss
🔥 Mind Body Mushroom Podcast
Welcome back to Mind Body Mushroom, the show where we dive deep into holistic health, personal growth, and the mindset shifts that fuel high performance.
In Episode 25, host Jordan Ryan interviews Justin DeMoss, director of Hotshot Wellness and former Golden Eagles Hotshot. Justin’s mission is to transform the wildland firefighter experience through evidence-based wellness, performance optimization, and personal growth.
We talk about what it's really like on the fire line, the difference between hotshots and smokejumpers (think Army Rangers vs. Green Berets), and how ancient tools like meditation, breathwork, and purpose are now being used to rebuild resilience in some of the toughest humans on earth.
If you’re a veteran, first responder, athlete, or just someone seeking deeper meaning and performance through discomfort — this one’s for you.
The structure of wildland firefighting crews (Type 2, Type 2IA, Hotshots, Smokejumpers)
Mental health challenges in fire season and the dangerous off-season slump
Holistic wellness tools that actually work in high-stress careers
Fitness, recovery, and nutrition myths in tactical populations
What it’s like running a nonprofit for the most underserved first responders
Why meditation, solitude, and nature are critical for mental strength
🧭 Connect with Justin DeMoss & Hotshot Wellness:
🌐 Website: www.hotshotwellness.com
📧 Email: [email protected]
📱 Instagram: https://instagram.com/hotshotwellness
🎥 Watch the Hotshot Wellness Summit talks (free):
https://www.hotshotwellness.com/resources
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🏄 Mentioned in This Episode:
The Swell Mission – Surf therapy for first responders & their families
AWOW and Jimmy Miller Foundation – Veteran & responder surf therapy orgs
Brent Ruby, PhD – Pioneer in wildland firefighter research
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(0:00) Introduction to Wildland Firefighting: Smokejumpers, Hotshots, and Qualifications
(5:08) Wildland Firefighting and Military Comparisons
(8:38) Meet Justin Demoss: A Wildland Firefighting Expert
(10:08) Role of Private Companies and Federal vs. State Command in Firefighting
(13:53) Justin Demoss' Personal Journey and Career in Firefighting
(17:23) Physical and Mental Fitness in Wildland Firefighting
(23:25) Deployment and Training Processes for Firefighters
(30:30) Advancements in Fitness Assessments for Firefighters
(34:54) The Balance of Performance and Wellness in Off-Season
(42:41) Addressing the Mental Health Challenges in Firefighting
(51:04) Introducing Hot Shot Wellness and Its Impact
(53:58) Wildland Adventure Resilience Program and Family Dynamics
(57:03) The Importance of Mental Health for Optimal Performance
(58:27) Future Directions for Hot Shot Wellness and Collaborations
(1:02:40) Applying Research to Support First Responders
(1:05:17) Strategies for Building Resilience and Self-Care in Firefighting
(1:13:15) Connecting and Supporting Hotshot Wellness
(1:14:14) Veterans, Military Communities, and the Coffee Business Connection
(1:15:26) Exploring Surf Therapy and Other Therapeutic Activities
(1:16:28) Closing Thoughts and Acknowledgements