In this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn dive into Chapters 36–37 of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros (spoilers for Chapters 1–37 only).

As the battle at Ressen unfolds, we witness devastating losses that shift the emotional landscape of the story. In these chapters, survival comes at a cost — and not everyone makes it through.

From Soleil’s horrifying death at the hands of the venin to Liam’s final stand, we explore what happens when grief has no time to breathe. What is grief, really? Is it only sadness? And what happens in the human brain when survival overrides emotional processing?

We also unpack survivor’s guilt — why surviving can feel heavy, how responsibility can linger after loss, and what it means to carry someone forward when you don’t get the chance to say goodbye.

✨ Themes discussed: grief in crisis, delayed emotional processing, survivor’s guilt, moral responsibility, identity under pressure, and the psychological weight of survival.

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In this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn unpack Chapters 34–35 of Fourth Wing (spoilers through Chapter 35), where Violet’s world — and her trust — begin to fracture.

The truth about venin emerges, secret alliances are revealed, and Violet realises she has been kept in the dark by the people closest to her. But not all betrayals are the same. Xaden withholds information in the name of protection, while Dain crosses a different boundary entirely — accessing memories that were never meant to be shared.

We explore the psychological difference between secrecy and intrusion, intention and impact, and what actually breaks when trust is fractured. Why does being kept in the dark hurt so deeply? And does it land differently when someone takes information from you rather than simply hides it?

✨ Themes discussed: trust, secrecy, autonomy, boundaries, and relational rupture.

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In this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn dive into Chapters 32–33 of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros (spoilers for Chapters 1–33 only). We explore what care looks like when strength, fear, and choice collide — and why receiving care can sometimes be harder than giving it.

Through Violet’s decisions, Xaden’s restraint, and Dain’s resistance, we unpack different expressions of care and protection, and where they begin to feel controlling. We discuss why strong people often struggle to accept care, how concern can slip into authority, and why agency plays such a crucial role in close relationships — especially when risk, love, and loyalty are involved.

✨ Themes discussed: receiving care, strength and control, protection vs authority, agency, choice, emotional restraint, and love that allows autonomy.

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Episode 19: Intimacy, Boundaries & Emotional Honesty
(Chapters 30–31 of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros)

In this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn dive into Chapters 30–31 of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros (spoilers for Chapters 1–31 only). We explore what happens when intimacy becomes a way to cope — and when feelings begin to ask for more than just attraction.

From Violet and Xaden’s explosive connection to the emotional conversations that follow, we unpack intimacy as distraction, vulnerability after prolonged stress, and the moment when boundaries start to matter. We also talk about emotional honesty, self-advocacy, and what it looks like to pause rather than rush into certainty — especially when desire and reality don’t quite align.

✨ Themes discussed: intimacy as coping, emotional vulnerability, boundaries, distraction vs connection, agency, and choosing openness without guarantees.

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In this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn explore Chapters 28–29 of Fourth Wing (spoilers for Chapters 1–29), where Violet’s power fully manifests and changes everything.

Looking at signets as reflections of personality and inner pressure, we explore why lightning makes sense for Violet and what it reveals about her role moving forward.

The conversation also looks at Violet and Xaden’s growing closeness, including their ability to communicate mind to mind, and what that shift signals about attachment and connection. We return to the contrast between Dain and Xaden — protection versus growth — and how these approaches play out both in the story and in real life.

✨ Themes discussed: power and identity, acceptance and integration, attachment, growth vs protection, responsibility, and change.

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In this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn continue their discussion of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros, covering Chapters 26–27 (spoilers for Chapters 1–27). A week away from Basgiath brings family reunions, shifting dynamics, and emotional confrontations that can no longer be avoided.

From Mira’s dual role as sister and authority figure to Violet’s heartbreaking assertion of identity — “because I am not you” — this episode explores what happens when love, protection, and expectation collide. We look at role conflict within families, the psychological weight of lifelong comparison, and what it means to accept limitations without giving up agency.

We also unpack Xaden’s noticeable shift in behaviour, the significance of delayed emotional processing, and the tension between control and closeness — culminating in a moment that blurs the line between strategy and impulse.

✨ Themes discussed: sibling authority, role conflict, vulnerability, comparison, acceptance, emotional processing, and choosing connection under pressure.

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In this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn continue their discussion of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros, covering Chapters 24–25 (spoilers for Chapters 1–25). We explore what agency looks like when desire, responsibility, and long-term thinking don’t align.

From Xaden’s mentoring style and emotional restraint to Violet’s growing confidence and leadership under pressure, this episode looks at how self-control can be both wise and costly. We talk about training for reality rather than ideals, teamwork without hierarchy, and Violet’s ability to think strategically when it matters most. Along the way, we also examine subtle relational moments — including when recognition matters more than approval.

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Things heat up fast in Chapters 22 and 23 of Fourth Wing, and in this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn are here to unpack every messy, fascinating moment. Violet finally starts channelling — but instead of raw power, she’s hit with overwhelming emotion, dragon desire, and a kiss that raises some very real questions about consent.

From grounding and shielding to jealousy, loyalty, and the brutal fight with Jack Barlowe, this episode explores how power, attraction, and agency collide. Is stopping the kiss actually the healthiest moment in the book so far? And how much of this chaos is Violet’s… and how much belongs to the dragons?
Blame the Dragons!

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In Episode 14 of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn explore Chapters 20 and 21 of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros (spoilers for Chapters 1 - 21), diving deep into the psychological fallout of Amber’s execution and meeting a new favourite character. As Violet navigates fear, control, and moral rigidity, we examine how rule-bound thinking, entitlement to others’ inner worlds, and the misuse of authority can shape — and distort — human behaviour.

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In this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn explore Chapters 18–19 of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros (spoilers for Chapters 1–19) through a psychological lens.

They unpack themes of self-efficacy, belief, and self-worth, examining how confidence is built — or undermined — in high-pressure environments. The discussion touches on trust and vulnerability in relationships, the emotional cost of keeping secrets, and the hidden power of support, both human and dragon. A deep dive into survival, resilience, and knowing your worth.

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