CBS News chief Washington correspondent Major Garrett sits down with David Rubenstein, co-founder of the Carlyle Group and principal owner of the Baltimore Orioles, for a wide-ranging conversation. They discuss how sports brings people together, how sports betting has affected treatment of athletes, his thoughts on a second Trump term and whether he believes an economic recession is on the horizon. 

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