Rand Fishkin uses the ludicrous title, Wizard of Moz. He's founder and former CEO of Moz, board member at presentation software startup Haiku Deck, co-author of a pair of books on SEO, and co-founder of Inbound.org. Rand's an unsaveable addict of all things content, search, & social on the web, from his multiple blogs to Twitter, Google+, Facebook, LinkedIn, and a shared Instagram account. In his miniscule spare time, he likes to galavant around the world with Geraldine and then read about it on her superbly enjoyable travel blog.
Here are the highlights of our conversation with our guest:
Helping people succeed in their professional careers and entrepreneurial ventures is and has been Rand’s passion. This calling was inspired because he was an accidental entrepreneur himself and really got his hands dirty in the SEO world before it snowballed into something.
The philosophy of helping people without asking for return has built up a lot of goodwill and thereby has been instrumental in building their business and their overall success.
Rand discusses a Twitter quote, ‘The best way to sell something – don’t sell anything. Earn the awareness, respect and trust of those who might buy.’
Start-ups inherit the strengths and weaknesses of their founders and Rand’s opportunities are software engineering and technical operations. He feels that Moz had inherited this and is the core of what holds them back in terms of scaling.
Rand gets transparent and shares his combination for disaster: relying on personal intuition and sense of the market, getting khaki and greedy and getting a lot of funding. He further shares his broken theories and his realization that they do not have to lead the market; they just need to follow where it goes.
Their philosophical approach to pivot towards focusing on the ‘now’ and the story behind one of Moz’s most successful launch ever.
About his experience when they did a CEO Swap for week and how this gave him the insights what SEO world was like, what consultants were dealing with, how their processes were working, and what their struggles were.
How the fact that there is no product fit in SEO, there is just the constant pursuit drives them to constantly practice; and how he sees the future and what he thinks is next; and his thoughts about the challenges in standing out from the entire noisy crowd.
The things that Moz, and Rand personally, are working on as of this time including building a better system of keyword research through URLs, the Moz bar, investing in a fund called Backstage Capital, writing a book around transparency and veering away from the mistakes that conventional startup wisdom biases us towards.