The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by J. Kyle Mann to discuss some early NBA observations and overreactions including "the Cavaliers are for real," rookie Jalen Suggs's struggles, LaMelo Ball's recklessness, the depth of the NBA talent pool, and more (1:55). Bill talks with NFL Network's Peter Schrager about MVP odds and why they are eyeing Tom Brady and Derrick Henry, and then they make their Million-Dollar Picks for NFL Week 8 (51:15).

Host: Bill Simmons

Guests: Peter Schrager and J. Kyle Mann

Producer: Kyle Crichton

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