Welcome to a special episode of Modern (MMD), hosted by Steven Hail and Gabrielle Bond. MMD is an international show about modern monetary theory and ecological economics. This week, Steven and Gabie speak with Professor Stephanie Kelton to discuss her New York Times best-selling book, The Deficit Myth.

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