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On this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, hosts Rob Ocel, Danny Thompson, and Adam Rackis are joined by Tejas Kumar, host of The Contagious Code podcast, author of Fluent React, and Developer Relations Engineer for Generative AI at DataStax. They unpack the current wave of AI announcements from Google I/O and Microsoft Build, and zoom in on the significance of MCP (Model Context Protocol) as a foundational shift in how AI-powered apps will be built and used.

Tejas breaks down what MCP is, why it's catching on across the industry, and how it could become the HTTP of AI apps. The group explores real-world examples, like AI apps managing your inbox or booking flights without ever opening a browser, and discuss how MCP servers enable secure, agent-driven experiences that can act on your behalf. They also touch on hallucinations, the role of fine-tuning vs. tool integration, and the future of checkout flows powered by AI agents.

Keypoints from this Episode:

- MCP enables structured communication between AI apps and servers, allowing agents to perform real tasks like sending emails or booking flights

- Users will increasingly interact with applications through natural language, with agents handling workflows behind the scenes

- Connecting models to tools via MCP helps reduce hallucinations by ensuring actions and responses are grounded in real data

- Most use cases benefit more from retrieval-augmented generation and strong tool integration than from expensive model fine-tuning

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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Rob Ocel, Danny Thompson, and Adam Rackis sit down with Ahmad Awais, CEO and founder of LangBase, to talk about agents, context, and the future of AI-assisted software development. Ahmad shares the origin story of Chai.new, an agent that builds agents, and why he believes context, not code, is the true value layer in the AI era. The group unpacks how "vibe coding" is reshaping who can build software, why Chai isn’t just another AI assistant, and how agents might evolve into personalized, production-grade tools for everyone, technical or not. Plus: Tailwind analogies, Stanford lectures, sports nutrition agents, and a CLI that went viral in a hospital.Key points from this episode:- Ahmad Awais explains that AI agents aren't magic; they're just a new paradigm for writing software. What makes them powerful is their ability to act autonomously with relevant context, not just generate text.- Chai.new helps developers (and non-developers) create purpose-built agents without needing deep ML expertise. It abstracts complex concepts like memory, retrieval, and orchestration into an approachable interface.- Ahmad emphasizes that the real opportunity lies in agents tailored to individual users and use cases. Personal agents with custom context outperform generic ones, much like small teams beat massive frameworks for specific problems.- Chai and LangBase aim to bring AI development to the millions of engineers who aren't AI researchers. With tools like Chai, you don’t need a PhD to build powerful, production-ready AI agents.Follow Ahmad Awais on Social MediaTwitter: https://x.com/MrAhmadAwaisLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrahmadawais/Sponsored by This Dot: thisdot.co

In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Danny Thompson sits down with Reed Harmeyer, CTO of Skylight Social, and Brandon Mathis, React Native engineer at This Dot Labs. They unpack the technical and strategic decisions behind Skylight’s meteoric growth: why they built on the AT Protocol, how they tackled video discovery and scaling challenges, and how a fast-tracked in-app video editor gave them an edge.

Keypoints from this episode:

• Skylight Social was built on the AT Protocol, allowing users to retain followers across platforms like Blue Sky and enabling creators to publish interoperable content in a decentralized social network.

• The team used React Native with Expo to achieve rapid development and cross-platform performance—launching a high-quality, TikTok-like video experience in just days.

• An in-app video editor was prioritized to reduce friction for creators, built using a native SDK wrapped with Expo Modules, enabling features like clip rearranging, overlays, voiceovers, and AI-generated captions.

• User behavior data—specifically watch time—drives content recommendations, not just likes or follows, helping Skylight offer a personalized experience while navigating scaling challenges from hypergrowth.

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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Rob Ocel and Danny Thompson sit down with Julián Duque, Principal Developer Advocate at Heroku, to talk about Heroku’s evolution into an AI Platform-as-a-Service. Julián breaks down Heroku’s new Managed Inference and Agents (MIA) platform, how they’re supporting Claude, Cohere, and Stable Diffusion, and what makes their developer experience stand out.

They also get into Model Context Protocols (MCPs)—what they are, why they matter, and how they’re quickly becoming the USB-C for AI. From internal tooling to agentic infrastructure and secure AI deployments, this episode explores how MCPs, trusted environments, and better AI dev tools are reshaping how we build modern software.

Key Points from this episode:

- Heroku is evolving into an AI Platform-as-a-Service with its new MIA (Managed Inference and Agents) platform, supporting models like Claude, Cohere, and Stable Diffusion while maintaining a strong developer experience.

- MCPs (Model Context Protocols) are becoming a key standard for extending AI capabilities—offering a structured, secure way for LLMs to access tools, run code, and interact with resources.

- Heroku's AI agents can perform advanced operations like scaling dynos, analyzing logs, and self-healing failed deployments using grounded MCP integrations tied to the Heroku CLI.

- Despite rapid adoption, MCPs still have rough edges—developer experience, tooling, and security protocols are actively improving, and a centralized registry for MCPs is seen as a missing piece.

Chapters

0:00 – What is MCP and why it matters

3:00 – Heroku’s pivot to AI Platform-as-a-Service

6:45 – Agentic apps, model hosting, and tool execution

10:50 – Why REST isn’t ideal for LLMs

14:10 – Developer experience challenges with MCP

18:00 – Hosting secure MCPs on Heroku

23:00 – Real-world use cases: scaling, healing, recommendations

30:00 – Common scaling challenges and hallucination risks

34:30 – Testing, security, and architecture tips

36:00 – Where to start and final advice on using AI tools effectively

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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Rob Ocel and Danny Thompson talk with Hannes Rudolph, Community Manager at RooCode, to explore how this fast-moving, community-driven code editor is rethinking what AI-assisted development looks like. Hannes breaks down Roo’s agentic coding model, explains how their “boomerang tasks” tackle LLM context limits, and shares lessons from working with contributors across experience levels.

Keypoints from this episode:

- RooCode's "boomerang" architecture breaks complex coding tasks into structured, recursive subtasks, helping AI agents stay focused while avoiding context bloat and hallucination chains.

- Developers can build their own orchestrator and agent modes in Roo, tailoring persona and instructions to fit specific workflows—crucial for long-term productivity.

- Unlike many tools, RooCode shows developers exactly how much each LLM call costs in real time, empowering teams to manage both quality and budget.

- RooCode is deeply community-driven, with user-submitted PRs frequently reshaping priorities. The team emphasizes transparency, collaboration, and accessibility for contributors at all levels.

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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Rob Ocel is joined by Danny Thompson, Adam Rackis, and special guest Coston Perkins for a lively discussion on the evolving role of AI in software development. The group swaps thoughts on everything from the rise of AI agents like RooCode and Claude, to what makes tools like Vercel’s v0 surprisingly powerful for frontend work.

They debate Tailwind’s dominance as the styling output of choice for AI tools, unpack the implications of Shopify’s AI-mandate memo, and tackle the big question: will AI reshape team structures or just amplify developer productivity?Keypoints from this episode:- AI agents in everyday development – The hosts discuss how tools like RooCode, Claude, and Cursor are reshaping daily coding workflows, enabling everything from automated documentation to feature planning and refactoring.- Vercel's v0 is changing perceptions – Originally seen as a landing page generator, v0 is now appreciated for its live, code-focused interface, showing promise for serious frontend development with real-time editing and deployment.- Tailwind’s dominance in AI output – The conversation dives into why Tailwind has become the styling default for AI-generated components, and whether that’s a productivity boost or a future limitation.- AI’s impact on hiring and team structure – The group debates whether AI will reduce developer headcount or empower mid-level devs to produce senior-level output—suggesting AI may reshape team dynamics more than replace them.Follow Coston Perkins on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/costonperkins/Sponsored by This Dot: thisdot.co

In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, host Danny Thompson and co-host Adam Rackis chat with James Perkins, CEO of Unkey, an open-source API management platform built for scale, security, and developer simplicity. James shares the challenges of building globally distributed infrastructure, and why his team ditched serverless and TypeScript in favor of Go and servers.

They talk candidly about the realities of API management at scale, how Unkey balances open source transparency with enterprise-grade performance, and what it takes to build developer trust—both as a brand and as a product.

Keypoints from this episode

• Unkey simplifies API management by acting as middleware for authentication, rate limiting, and security—without requiring deep backend expertise. It's designed for developers to go from idea to production with minimal setup.

• Go over serverless – James and his team initially explored TypeScript and serverless architecture but ultimately returned to Go and servers for better performance, scalability, and developer experience at scale.

• Open-source transparency is core to Unkey’s philosophy – The entire codebase is public, and the team maintains a radically open company culture, where even investor updates and customer support emails are shared internally.

• Customer obsession drives every decision – Regardless of whether a user is paying $0 or $2,000/month, Unkey responds quickly, prioritizes community support, and encourages a culture of ownership and responsiveness across the team.

Chapters

00:00 – Intro + Why Unkey exists
02:00 – James' background and API pain points
03:50 – What Unkey actually does
05:45 – Engineering challenges + scaling architecture
07:30 – Tech stack changes: Go, TypeScript, Serverless
08:45 – Unkey as middleware: auth, rate limiting, analytics
10:40 – Future vision: making APIs as easy as deploying on Vercel
11:45 – Why Go instead of Node or TypeScript
13:30 – Go vs TypeScript: hiring, dependencies, developer experience
15:00 – Why API management is hard at scale
17:15 – Case study: Fireworks and Google Apigee performance issues
19:00 – The complexity of modern API platforms
20:00 – Sponsor break: This Dot Labs
20:35 – Will Unkey expand into app hosting?
22:00 – Unkey's focus on doing one thing really well
23:45 – Content strategy: personal brand vs corporate marketing
26:20 – Customer obsession: internal culture and open company model
30:30 – Open source dynamics and being fully transparent
33:45 – Advice for developer-entrepreneurs
36:24 – Wrap up + where to find the speakers

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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Rob Ocel and Danny Thompson talk with Corbin Crutchley — founder of Playful Programming, Microsoft MVP, GitHub Star, and maintainer of multiple TanStack libraries including TanStack Form, Store, and Config.They dive into Corbin’s work maintaining open source at scale, what makes TanStack Form different (and a bit esoteric), and why the design decisions behind it matter, especially for enterprise teams. They also unpack the tradeoffs of abstraction, type safety in large-scale apps, and best practices for migrating form logic.Later in the episode, the conversation shifts to Corbin’s nonprofit and developer education philosophy: why Playful Programming focuses on deep conceptual understanding over task-based tutorials, how AI is changing how people learn, and what’s next for guiding developers from beginner to intermediate and beyond.Key points from this episode:– Corbin explains how TanStack Form’s architecture, though verbose and esoteric, enables strong type safety, SSR support, and integration with modern frameworks like Next.js and Remix.– The group discusses common pain points in migrating from other form libraries, especially around type inference and validation layers, and how TanStack Form encourages a clean separation of concerns.– Maintaining open source at scale requires balancing community feedback with a strong guiding philosophy; Corbin highlights the importance of civility and staying true to the project’s design principles.– Playful Programming focuses on deep, conceptual education over task-based tutorials, aiming to help learners move from beginner to intermediate with free, accessible content and personalized learning in the future.Chapters0:00 – Why TanStack Form Is Built This Way1:06 – Meet Corbin Crutchley and the TanStack Ecosystem3:34 – How Corbin Joined and Shaped TanStack Form6:17 – Why Use TanStack Form (Despite the Verbosity)10:28 – Type Safety, Generics, and Enterprise-Ready Patterns14:50 – Validation Best Practices and SSR Integration18:45 – Handling Feedback in Open Source21:22 – Playful Programming: Teaching Concepts Over Tasks27:33 – Bridging the Developer Education Gap35:54 – Is It Still Worth Learning Programming?38:25 – The Evolving Role of Developers and Soft Skills41:57 – Wrap-Up and Where to Connect OnlineFollow Corbin Crutchley on Social MediaLinkedin:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/corbincrutchleyX/Twitter: https://x.com/crutchcornSponsored by This Dot: thisdot.co

In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, host Danny Thompson sits down with Ben Peeri, Lead Solutions Architect and Entrepreneur, for a candid and energetic conversation on how AI tools are reshaping the way developers build software. They explore the strengths and tradeoffs of platforms like v0, Bolt, and Replit, diving into how these tools fit into modern dev workflows—from quick POCs to potential production use.Ben shares his unique approach to local LLMs, including how he uses them for pen testing and simulating malicious actors to harden apps before release. The conversation also covers the shifting landscape for junior developers, why thinking like a product owner is more critical than ever, and what it means to lead a team of AI agents.Keypoints from this episode:- AI tools compared – v0, Bolt, and Replit each serve different purposes, from fast prototyping to more complex backend support, but all come with trade-offs in control and scalability.- Local LLMs for security – Running local models allows for safe pen testing by simulating bad actors, something API-based LLMs can’t do due to usage restrictions.- The role of prompting – Effective prompting, even using “carrot and stick” tactics, makes a big difference in the quality of LLM outputs and testing accuracy.- The evolving dev role – Junior devs will need to shift from building everything from scratch to refining and scaling AI-generated code—thinking more like operators of agent-powered dev studios.Follow Ben Peeri on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benpeeri/Sponsored by This Dot: thisdotlabs.com

In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Rob Ocel and Danny Thompson get real about the current state of AI in software development. They talk about what’s working, what’s frustrating, and why so much of the conversation around AI feels repetitive or disconnected from reality. They explore how AI is actually being used day to day—and where it still falls short.

They also discuss the risks of relying too heavily on AI, especially for junior devs, and why understanding fundamentals still matters.

Keypoints from this episode:

- AI fatigue is setting in among developers, with many eager to move beyond hype and explore tools that solve real problems and deliver everyday value.

- Danny built a conversational AI agent named Nexie, trained specifically on Next.js and Vercel documentation, showing how personalized agents can provide focused, meaningful assistance.

- Over-relying on AI can backfire for junior developers. Using it to generate code without understanding the underlying logic undermines learning and growth.

- AI tools are starting to shift how we think about software quality. In some cases, speed and cost-effectiveness may outweigh traditional goals like maintainability.

Chapters

00:00 – Should Juniors Use AI?

01:04 – Real Talk on AI Conferences

03:00 – Building Nexi: A Personal Dev Agent

05:13 – Beyond the Hype: Finding Real AI Use Cases

09:36 – Why Senior Devs Struggle with AI Tools

15:55 – Mentorship, Theory, and Learning the Right Way

21:10 – When to Use AI (and When Not To)

26:50 – The Growing Gap in Dev Skills

30:31 – AI Is Redefining “Good Software”

32:09 – Final Thoughts + Where to Find Us

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