00:35 - Hugh talks about transition from designer and mobile dev to product management
03:12 - Discussing workflow, being in meetings vs heads-down doing work
06:10 - On specialization in big tech vs wearing a lot of hats at a startup
07:55 - Jon discussing the balance between building new features and refactoring/maintenance to support future development
10:45 - How do we decide what to work on?
12:50 - What are we optimizing for in our jobs?
14:35 - Are we doing it for the money?
15:50 - Hugh likes his manager
17:20 - So what are your thoughts on crypto?
18:50 - We get paid to learn!
20:20 - On the perils of being surrounded by techies
23:30 - Work culture makes us want to work more
28:20 - Hugh likes being with family
31:40 - Jon wants to ride his bike to work
34:00 - Why is Singapore cool?
35:11 - Jon wants to run for mayor of Los Angeles and fix traffic
38:00 - Hugh and Jon switch sides
40:22 - Jon wants to study full-time
48:30 - Bitcoin price predictions
51:00 - Jon has tried to evangelize about bitcoin to his friends
55:40 - Andreas Antonopoulos fangirling
56:50 - Is is still worth buying bitcoin?
58:30 - Discussing how to predict the btc price
59:50 - Jon is bad at arithmetic
1:01:00 - Can bitcoin overtake the USD as the world's reserve currency?
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