Sophia Roe is one of those people who seems to have been born to break moulds. In this episode, the chef, wellness expert, educator, and speaker sits down to talk about her remarkable life-- from spending her childhood in foster care and not knowing where her next meal would come from, to starring in and producing her own show, Counter Space, on Vice. Through it all, Sophia has been carried by her belief in imagination, never letting fear, or lack of experience, stop her from trying everything. Tune in to hear about making best friends with imposter syndrome, choosing to be grateful even for the most painful moments, scheduling time for crying, and always finding moments for playfulness-- like and walking across the Brooklyn Bridge…  backwards.

For decades Karen Elson has been a defining face in the world of fashion — gracing every major fashion magazine and runway. But Karen’s uber-successful career in fashion is only one of her many hyphens. Since childhood, she has been writing music, using her lyrics to make sense of the world and transform daily life into poetry. In this episode of More Than One Thing, Karen talks with me about moving through fear, the gift of not fitting in, and finding the courage to follow her creative path, no matter how winding.