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Many faithful Christian parents today grieve for their adult children who have left the faith. They ask, "Where did we go wrong? What should we have done differently?" Carl and Todd discuss this important topic in this episode and encourage parents not to give up hope. 

"Parents have enormous impact on their kids' lives, even into adulthood. Even when there's been pain, a parent has enormous influence. See how best to leverage that for the soul of your child.  – Todd Pruitt

Thanks to P&R Publishing, we awarded copies of Wayward Children: Finding Peace, Keeping Hope to three of our listeners. Congratulations to Renee R. from Little Rock, AR, Karen G. from St. Peters, MO, and Mickie G. from Arab, AL!

When considering theology, you may think of confusing, lofty terminology that only concerns scholars and pastors. But really, theology is for anyone who wants to understand God better and learn more about the Bible. Carl and Todd welcome Jon Nielson, pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Wheaton, IL, to discuss his new book Knowing God's Truth.

Written to make systematic theology clear, meaningful, and practical, Nielson introduces systematic theology in this volume and guides readers through its application in their daily lives. Jon's highly accessible book is a valuable resource for those yearning for a deeper understanding of God and the Bible, including young people and newer believers.

"Systematic theology is important… it's recognizing that Scripture actually does give us a system of doctrine; that we're able to do systematic theology because the Bible gives us a unity of theology and so we're able to actually say, here's what the Bible says about God, about sin, about salvation, etc., etc. "  – Todd Pruitt

We are pleased to award three copies of Knowing God's Truth to our listeners, thanks to the generosity of our friends at Crossway. Congratulations to Rena C. from Florence, CO, Gary S. from Jackson, MS, and Jared W. from Spring, TX!

For many years, there was a lack of good Protestant literature addressing the transfiguration— a central event in the life of Christ. Thanks to Patrick Schreiner’s new book, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, that is no longer the case. Patrick is an associate professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and writes from a solid conservative Protestant evangelical perspective. So what is it that Protestants miss when we overlook the transfiguration? What is its significance and place in redemptive history, and how can it be applied?

“I think the transfiguration is this unique event where the humanity and the deity of Christ come together, where his humanity is transfigured or transformed, but his deity is also revealed. This reality [is] that we have the God-Man in one subject and one person, and both things are made evident at the same time.” – Patrick Schreiner

Be sure to tune in for this fascinating conversation on a much-neglected subject. You may gain a new perspective on the importance of this unique event in the life of Jesus and its practical application to our lives. And stay tuned to the end for barbeque recommendations in Kansas City!

We are pleased to award three copies of The Transfiguration of Christ to our listeners, thanks to the generosity of our friends at Baker Academic. Congratulations to Dawn W. from Clarkston, WA, David B. from Little Rock, AK, and Harry J. from Brenham, TX!

Show Notes:

Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary: https://www.mbts.edu/

Light on the Mountain: Greek Patristic and Byzantine Homilies on the Transfiguration of the Lord

Many of the best and brightest Protestant thinkers have converted to Roman Catholicism in recent decades. Some have found Protestantism shallow in doctrine, history, ethics, and worship. Chris Castaldo, co-author of Why Do Protestants Convert? sits down with Carl and Todd to discuss the psychological, theological, and sociological factors behind these conversions. 

As someone who has had conversations with those who have converted from Protestantism to Catholicism or, in some cases, Eastern Orthodoxy as well, very often in my conversations with them, theology is not the first thing. Oftentimes [there are] other issues that they will name first, like the historical rootedness or the reverence that they found or the beauty that they found in the Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox traditions.  – Todd Pruitt

Although many converts’ criticisms of contemporary Protestantism may be warranted, Chris points out that historic Protestantism contains the answers to these objections and the resources for a Protestant renewal.

Thanks to the generosity of the Davenant Institute, we had two copies of Why Do Protestants Convert? to give to our listeners. Congratulations for Jennifer W. from Southern Pines, NC and Nicholas R. from Plantation, FL!

Show Notes:

Chris’ article on the state of the Roman Catholic Church:

https://mereorthodoxy.com/is-rome-a-true-church

Critical theory and its expression in fields like critical race theory, critical pedagogy, and queer theory are having a profound impact on our culture. Carl and Todd sit down with Neil Shenvi and Pat Sawyer, authors of Critical Dilemma: The Rise of Critical Theories and Social Justice Ideology, to discuss how contemporary critical theory’s ideas about race, class, gender, identity, and justice have dramatically shaped how people think, act, and view one another—in Christian and secular spheres alike.

As a robust meta-narrative worldview, critical social theory and its expansive expressions are categorically against biblical Christianity. – Pat Sawyer

While Neil and Pat acknowledge that critical theory can provide some legitimate insights into issues impacting our culture today and urge Christians to condemn racism and seek justice, racial healing, and unity, they argue that the false assumptions at the heart of critical theory pose a serious threat to both the church and society at large. 

Congratulations to Archibald D. from Monroe, NC, Wes W. from Glen Ellyn, IL, and Kristen S. from Cedar Falls, IA who were selected to receive a copy of Critical Dilemma, thanks to the generosity of Harvest House Publishers!

Show Notes:

Natasha Crane’s article, “Here Comes the He Gets Us Campaign Again: Why Its Portrayal of Jesus is Still a Problem: https://natashacrain.com/here-comes-the-he-gets-us-campaign-again-why-its-portrayal-of-jesus-is-still-a-problem/

Stand to Reason with Greg Koukl: https://www.str.org/

God in the Dock by C.S. Lewis: https://a.co/d/hNVsBWw

Back in 2013, Carl and Todd launched Mortification of Spin with their first episode, "Rock Star Pastors in Las Vegas," sharing a microphone in a small underground bunker. All these years later, they no longer share a mic, but they're still going strong, celebrating their 500th first-run episode. Joining them for this momentous occasion are their good friends, Kevin DeYoung and Matt Eusey. After reminiscing about the early days, the conversation turns toward the importance of meaningful friendships. The guys consider the benefits of friendship and the current challenges we face as these most vital relationships have undergone a dramatic transformation. 

It really is important to have friends. It's not a sufficient condition for being faithful in ministry, but I do think it is a necessary condition, and it's really important to have people to know who you really are and [to] joke with, but also be challenged by, and know that they are looking over your shoulder in a good way. – Kevin DeYoung

For best results, enjoy this special episode as a video podcast on YouTube.

In honor of the 500th episode, we selected three listeners to receive a box of Mortification of Spin swag. Congratulations to Chris T. from Dallas, TX, Sumit B. from Sammanish, WA, and Greg P. from Greenville, SC!

Show Notes:

Listen to "Rock Star Pastors in Las Vegas” :

Mortification of Spin on YouTube:

Mortification of Spin swag:

Mark Jones is back on the podcast today, chatting with Carl and Todd about his latest book, The Pilgrim's Regress: Guarding against Backsliding and Apostasy in the Christian Life. Vowing not to write another book for a long time because of the toll it takes on his life expectancy, Mark explains why he chose to address the uncomfortable topic of backsliding believers—and, to a lesser extent, apostasy—in his latest work. 

After Covid and all that it did to the church, there's a very serious need to confront what is an obvious pastoral issue for many pastors, and that is a lot of people have fallen away or become extremely lazy in their Christian living. - Mark Jones

An important topic infrequently discussed in many Reformed churches, Mark addresses backsliding in this serious, hopeful, and pastoral work informed by wise theologians of the past and present. 

P&R Publishing generously provided a few giveaway copies of The Pilgrim's Regress: Guarding against Backsliding and Apostasy in the Christian Life for our listeners. Congratulations to Sally E. from Woodstock, VA, Adam Z. from High Point, NC, and David S. from Martinsburg, WV!

For a copy of The Pilgrim’s Regress: https://reformedresources.org/the-pilgrims-regress-guarding-against-backsliding-and-apostasy-in-the-christian-life-paperback/

https://reformedresources.org/books/authors/mark-jones/

Personal Declension and Revival of the Soul by Octavius Winslow:

https://reformedresources.org/personal-declension-and-revival-of-religion-in-the-soul-paperback/

Holiness by JC Ryle:  https://reformedresources.org/holiness-its-nature-hindrances-difficulties-and-roots-hardcover/

The Deconstruction of Christianity

What exactly is deconstruction? The movement has been defined in many different ways. Today’s guests co-authored a book to clear up the confusion. Alisa Childers, author of Another Gospel?, and Tim Barnett, creator of Red Pen Logic, sit down with Todd and Carl to discuss the true nature of faith deconstruction, which is sweeping through our churches and is disrupting, dismantling, and destroying the faith of so many.

“Sadly, because of the Biblical illiteracy in our culture, because we live in a mic-drop world where someone just makes a claim and then they drop the mic and walk away as if they won an argument…that’s why these things are so persuasive, and they get so many likes and so many shares and such a following.” – Tim Barnett

Alisa and Tim will help you understand what deconstruction is, where it comes from, why it is compelling to some, and how it disorients the lives of so many, as well as how to think through the main issues and explore wise and loving ways to respond from a biblical worldview. Don’t miss this important conversation. 

Tyndale Press provided a few giveaway copies of The Deconstruction of Christianity: What It Is, Why It’s Destructive, and How to Respond for our listeners. Congratulations to our winners: Ed C. from Jacksonville, FL, Jean S. from Wellington, OH, and Noah G. from Minneapolis, MN!

Show Notes:

To purchase a copy of Alisa and Tim’s book: https://reformedresources.org/the-deconstruction-of-christianity-what-it-is-why-its-destructive-and-how-to-respond-softcover/

Red Pen Logic: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmIwZDSKSeNboqWKtgX7UrA

Tim’s website:  https://www.str.org/tim-barnett

Alisa’s Website: https://alisachilders.com/

Originating as lectures delivered at the University of Durham over 80 years ago, The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis is a classic and one of the most debated of his extraordinary works. Lewis sets out to persuade his audience of the importance and relevance of universal values such as courage and honor in contemporary society. 

Listen in as Carl and Todd discuss why Christians today have much to learn from reading Lewis’ astonishingly prophetic and insightful lectures.

“I think what Lewis was doing, and probably was not fully aware he was doing, was putting his finger on what would manifest itself as the underlying problem of the modern world, which is the complete collapse of the notion of human nature: what it means to be a man, what it means to be human.”  – Carl Trueman

Intervarsity Press provided a few giveaway copies of The Medieval Mind of C.S. Lewis by Jason Baxter for our listeners. Congratulations to our winners: Robin F. from Trumann, AK, Andrew M. from Savage, MN, and Ben G. from Livonia, MI.

Intervarsity has also provided a discount code for our listeners. Enter IVPPOD20 at check-out to get 20% off Jason’s book and all other titles at ivpress.com, plus free shipping!

Show Notes:

The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis: https://a.co/d/6SnPqL2

After Virtue: A Study in Moral Theory by Alasdair MacIntyre: https://a.co/d/2UDT4Wf

After Humanity: A Guide to C.S. Lewis’ The Abolition of Man by Michael Ward: https://a.co/d/4ZSIAgF

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Tom Rudelius had science and an Ivy League pedigree—why did he need God? Immersed in his physics studies at Cornell, he never thought much about God until his brother, a new convert to Christianity, challenged him to explore faith. Tom joins Carl and Todd to discuss his new book, Chasing Proof, Finding Faith, where he traces his journey to unexpected faith, through subsequent doubt and anxiety.

“I think that what God really wants from us is that we would give him our allegiance, even in the midst of our doubts. And I think that’s the sort of faith that God really calls us to – the sort of faith that says, ‘God, I will take your side, even amidst the doubts. I will choose to give you my life and to follow you, even if I’m questioning.’” 

Though he never found absolute proof of God or Christianity, he ultimately concluded that the existing evidence for both is compelling and compatible with science. Tune in to this fascinating conversation, and find out why Carl compared him to Martin Luther!

Thank you to Tyndale Press for providing a few giveaway copies of Chasing Proof, Finding Faith for our listeners. Congratulations to our winners: Joseph S. from West Chester, PA, Barbara S. from Lancaster, PA, and Michael C. from Evansville, IN!

Show Notes:

Tom recommends this book for those who are interested in investigating Christianity:

Letters from a Skeptic: A Son Wrestles with His Father's Questions about Christianity