This week Emily is joined by Kelly Glass, Executive Editor of Black Parenting at Parents.com. Kelly admits that her never-ending divorce made some parts of lockdown easier and shares how she survived the summer of 2020 with two Black sons. Then Emily and Kelly talk skincare, sleeping bras, and why the media needs to do a better job of centering non-white families — something Kelly is tackling with her soon-to-launch vertical at Parents. Before they part ways, Kelly offers some sound advice to white parents who are afraid to talk about race. 

More from Kelly Glass:

Read Kelly’s stories at Parents.com

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This week, Emily talks with her old friend, The Rev. Ann Kansfield, whose book, "Be the Brave One: Living Your Spiritual Values Out Loud" is out December 14. Ann is a self-described "hyper extrovert" and is the first female and first openly gay FDNY chaplain. She was also the very first New York Times New Yorker of the year. Emily and Ann discuss parenting with ADHD, apologizing after a fight, and the surprising place Ann put a refrigerator during lockdown. Ann also gives Emily some words of encouragement for what is sure to be a very busy 2022 (also, how the hell is it almost 2022?!).

Buy Ann’s book on Amazon or at Bookshop (using these links helps support this show!).

For a signed copy, check out WORD, the bookstore where Emily and Ann met.

Learn more about Ann and support the Greenpoint Hunger Program at greenpointchurch.org.

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Meet Sascha Guinn Anderson, a communications consultant and Indigenous mother of three in Santa Fe, NM. Emily and Sascha talk about the division of labor now that their husbands have experienced being stay-at-home dads, Sascha’s successful run for school board, and how difficult it is to find bras for their post-breastfeeding boobs. Sascha shares her thoughts on Thanksgiving (which happens to be Emily’s all-time favorite holiday) and together, they come up with an easy way for parents to help combat stereotypes about Indigenous people at home and at school.

Shop Sascha’s book recommendations (and remember buying books via these links helps support this show, which is still just a labor of love):



Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/lists/better-books-for-thanksgiving

Amazon: https://amzn.to/3ClC6Ft

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https://saschaforsfps.com

https://instagram.com/saschaforsfps

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For the second installment of a two-part series on momfluencers, Emily is joined by her friend, Brittany Null — a single mom of three who makes a living posting lifestyle and family content, but doesn’t consider herself a momfluencer. Emily and Britt talk about Britt’s very public divorce, the pressure to present as okay during lockdown, and paying her kids for sponsored posts. After the break, they get into boob jobs and how being a Black mom on the Internet sometimes feels like being a Black mom at the playground. Oh, and Emily goes on a mini-rant about mommywine. 

Find Britt online: 

https://instagram.com/brittnull

https://www.youtube.com/brittsspace

https://www.brittsspace.com/

https://www.tiktok.com/@brittnull

Momfluencers (moms who influence) mentioned in this episode:

https://instagram.com/aprilathena7

https://instagram.com/samanthainperson

https://instagram.com/shaymone

https://instagram.com/influencingincolor 

Emily’s full-length mommywine rant:

https://theboozybungalow.com/enough-with-the-mommywine/

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For Part 1 of a two-part series on momfluencers, Emily is joined by Sara Petersen, author of the Harper’s Bazaar article, "Momfluencer Content Enrages Me. Why Can't I Look Away?" Emily and Sara talk about the unattainable "authenticity" of the most elite momfluencers, reveal which ones really got in their heads, and discuss the term "hate follow."

Follow Sara Petersen: 

http://sara-petersen.com/

https://twitter.com/slouisepetersen

https://www.instagram.com/slouisepetersen/

Sara’s momfluencer articles: 

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/a35266612/motherhood-instagram-influencers/

https://www.instyle.com/lifestyle/momfluencers-nostalgia-instagram

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a36595860/wellness-mommy-bloggers-and-the-cultish-language-they-use/

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/06/10531901/influencers-pyramid-schemes-mlms-beautycounter-momfluencers

Find the books mentioned:

Amazon: https://amzn.to/3EFpmeu 

Indie option: https://bit.ly/3CCB20R

Find the full list of momfluencers mentioned in this episode here: https://mothermotherpodcast.com/episode-4-momfluencers-with-sara-petersen

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It’s publication day for Michelle Woo’s "Horizontal Parenting: How to Entertain Your Kid While Lying Down" so Emily and Michelle talk about the book and the intense expectations for millennial moms to play with their children. Emily reminds Michelle how they know each other (it involves a baby fart catheter) and comes clean about the dirtiest place in her house. Also: Emily hosted a playdate and it wasn’t so bad! 

Buy Horizontal Parenting:

https://amzn.to/3GnRPqM

https://bit.ly/3pCtSpF

Products mentioned in this episode:

The Windi: https://amzn.to/3vI3rzM

The NoseFrida: https://amzn.to/3mgmu1f

Emily’s Eufy Robovac: https://amzn.to/3BeqR0Q

More Michelle Woo:

https://michellewoo.com

https://instagram.com/woopics 

https://twitter.com/michellewoo

https://forge.medium.com 

Articles mentioned in this episode: 

Put Your Needs Before Your Kid's Wants: https://lifehacker.com/put-your-needs-before-your-kids-wants-1822569198

Give Kids Your Undivided Attention — or No Attention At All: https://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/06/give-kids-your-undivided-attention-or-no-attention-at-all/

Why This Plastic Butt Straw Is the Greatest Baby Gadget of All Time: https://lifehacker.com/why-this-plastic-butt-straw-is-the-greatest-baby-gadget-1820605743

More Mother Mother podcast:

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https://twitter.com/thatemilyfarris

Questions? Comments? Want to advertise? Email [email protected].

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For the second episode, host Emily Farris interviews New Yorker cartoonist Emily Flake. Emily and Emily consider each other friends from the Internet — but this is their first time interacting in real life (well, as IRL as you can be when you’re halfway across the country from each other). They discuss the challenges of trying to be creative when your brain feels like it won’t work anymore, they bond over their shared fantasy of sneaking away from their families to write for a few weeks, and Emily (Farris) tells the story of her Internet-micro-famous inner-thigh bruise. 

Want more Emily Flake?

Find her online at https://www.emilyflake.com and https://www.stnells.com/

Follow her on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/eflakeagogo and https://www.instagram.com/stnells/

And on Twitter at http://twitter.com/emilyflake and https://twitter.com/StNells

Buy her book, "That Was Awkward": https://amzn.to/2YJitZz

And her other book, "Mama Tried": https://amzn.to/3ayggCY

And her other book, "These Things Ain’t Gonna Smoke Themselves": https://amzn.to/3FYuv2B

Want more Emily Farris? 

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And, as promised, images of The Bruise™: https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/17904645220559758/

Questions? Comments? Want to advertise? Contact Emily (Farris) at [email protected].

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This is Mother Mother bonus content: An excerpt from the original Mother Mother podcast pilot that Emily Farris recorded with Andrea Mallory back in the fall of 2020. 

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It's the very first episode of the long-awaited Mother Mother podcast! Host Emily Farris introduces the show and welcomes her friend Andrea Mallory — a tech executive and mother of two who quit her job at a certain video conferencing software company days before the Covid lockdown… to spend more time with her kids! Andrea admits to finding alone time in an unconventional place and Emily talks about the mom groups that helped her stay sane in quarantine. 

As promised, here's the link to Andrea's colorful bra band extenders: https://amzn.to/3FCdA5L

Learn more about Mother Mother and leave Emily a voicemail at https://mothermotherpodcast.com/

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You can also follow Mother Mother on Instagram at https://instagram.com/mothermotherpodcast and Emily at https://instagram.com/thatemilyfarris. 

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A new parenting podcast from the mom friends you need right now. Every week, writer Emily Farris and a special guest get real about motherhood — and no topic is off limits. Coming Tuesdays in October. 

Our theme song, "Mother Mother" by Tracy Bonham, is performed by Jocelyn Mackenzie with Harry Bolles (and is very legally used by Mother Mother).

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