May 15, 2025

Motion for Vue (with Matt Perry)

1 hour 3 minutes

In this episode of DejaVue, Michael and Alex chat with Matt Perry, the creator of Motion (formerly Framer Motion), about animations in web development.
Matt talks about his journey from designing gaming magazines as a kid to becoming a full-time developer, sharing his experiences with ActionScript, jQuery, and how Motion was born. They discuss how simple and powerful Motion's API is, its ability to work with different frameworks, and how it stacks up against other animation libraries like GSAP and AnimeJS.

But the episode also covers a lot of open source aspects, such as the challenges of keeping Motion going!
Matt explains how Motion+ funds the development of Motion with one-time payments and time-gated (then publicly available) content, to support the project.

Enjoy the episode!

Our Guest

Matt Perry

Motion
Personal Website
Bluesky
Twitter

Chapters

(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue

(01:20) - How did you get into programming?

(05:18) - Adobe ActionScript

(08:33) - What is Motion (fka. Framer Motion)?

(12:21) - APIs and Limitations

(16:54) - Prerequisites for using Tools

(24:26) - The jQuery of web animations

(26:37) - The birth of Motion

(31:02) - Motion for Vue

(32:40) - Other "Motion for ..." adaptations?

(34:36) - Funding the project - Motion+

(40:00) - One-time Payment and Time-gating

(50:39) - Thoughts on other ways of monetizing Motion

(52:43) - Can AI replace animation libraries?

(57:41) - The difference between Motion and other libraries

(01:01:04) - Closing Thoughts

Links and Resources

ActionScript
ECMAScript
Popmotion
Motion
Motion Vue
Rick (Motion Vue maintainer)
Framer
DejaVue #054 - Open Source Sustainability (with Daniel Roe, Chad Whitacre & Rijk van Zanten)
GSAP
AnimeJS

Your Hosts

Michael Thiessen

Twitter
YouTube
Website

Alexander Lichter

Bluesky
YouTube
Website

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