It was silent for a while on the DejaVue front. Now, Alex and Michael get back to it for.. yet another episode?
Hear more about why it took so long and what the future plans of the podcast are.

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Chapters

Your Hosts

Alexander Lichter

• Bluesky
• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

Michael Thiessen

• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

In this special episode of DejaVue, Alexander and Michael are joined by Daniel Roe and Sébastien Chopin to discuss the recent acquisition of NuxtLabs by Vercel. Questions like "Was Nuxt just sold", "How much influence has Vercel", and "What is Vercel excepting from the deal" are answered.
If you wonder what impact the deal has on Nuxt, you as a user and developer, as well as the open-source community, you should tune in! 

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Our Guests

Daniel Roe

• Bluesky
• Web
• YouTube
• Twitch

Sébastien Chopin

• NuxtLabs
• Nuxt
• Personal Website
• Bluesky

Chapters

Links and Resources

• Announcement on NuxtLabs.com
• Skew Protection Nitro Issue
• Daniel Roe's Reddit AMA
• The Future of Nuxt GitHub Discussion
• Pooya's Nitro Announcement

Your Hosts

Alexander Lichter

• Bluesky
• YouTube
• Website

Michael Thiessen

• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

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👉 Don't forget to join ViteConf on October 9-10 in Amsterdam

In this episode of DejaVue, Michael and Alexander look into the major release of Vite 7, including the move to ESM-only, dropping Node 18 support, and adopting the Baseline browser target.
They also discuss the evolving Environment API, upcoming changes in Rolldown-Vite, new Vite dev tools, and more.

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Chapters

• (00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue

Links and Resources

• Vite Announcement post
• require(esm) in Node
• tsdown
• obuild
• fdir PR
• DejaVue #E058 - The History of Nuxt and NuxtLabs (with Sébastien Chopin)
• DejaVue #E051 - Vite Inside Out (with Matias "Patak" Capeletto)
• Vite DevTools Preview (screenshot)
• Vite Plugin Vue 6.0 (not beta anymore)

Your Hosts

Alexander Lichter

• Bluesky
• YouTube
• Website

Michael Thiessen

• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

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Big news in the Nuxt ecosystem. While you out there already know what has been announced - some of us didn't. Luckily, Daniel Roe, Head of the Nuxt team joins this DejaVue episode and discusses the highly anticipated "double trouble": Not one, but two major versions for Nuxt are on the horizon.
After over a year of delays, Daniel reveals the strategic decision to release Nuxt 4 in less than a month from now, followed by Nuxt 5 which will include the long-awaited Nitro 3 integration and significant Vite improvements.
The episode covers the smooth migration experience early adopters reported already, the philosophy behind careful breaking changes, and how the team plans to maintain a yearly major release cycle moving forward.

Enjoy the Episode!

Our Guest

Daniel Roe

• Bluesky
• Web
• YouTube
• Twitch

Chapters

• (00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue

Links and Resources

• Roadmap to v4 blog post
• DejaVue #E043 - The Year in ReVue (with Daniel Roe)
• DejaVue #E044 - Our Predictions for Vue and Nuxt in 2025 (with Daniel Roe)
• DejaVue #E013 - The Road to Nuxt 4 (with Daniel Roe)
• Daniel's PR migrating Elk
• Nuxt 4 Migration Guide
• DejaVue #E003 - Nitro: The Next Generation Server Toolkit
• Srvx
• Michael's Nuxt Release Date Comic
• Alex' Nuxt 4/5 video

Your Hosts

Alexander Lichter

• Bluesky
• YouTube
• Website

Michael Thiessen

• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

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Join Alex and Michael with special guest Sébastien Chopin, creator of Nuxt.js and CEO of NuxtLabs, to learn more about the origins and evolution of the Vue-based meta framework. Sébastien shares valuable lessons from open source, how he came to create Nuxt.js in the first place and which challenges came with it.

In the second part of the episode, they cover Sébastien's company NuxtLabs - from its inception over to taking Venture Capital and products, such as NuxtHub or Nuxt UI Pro.

Eventually, the NuxtLabs CEO also outlines how they handle sponsorships of maintainers, and what the future holds for Nuxt and NuxtLabs.

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Our Guest

Sébastien Chopin

• NuxtLabs
• Nuxt
• Personal Website
• Bluesky

Chapters

• (00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue

Links and Resources

• Nuxt
• Intro to Nuxt Layers
• Nitro
• Reactivue
• inclusion-vapor
• DejaVue #E044 - Our Predictions for Vue and Nuxt in 2025 (with Daniel Roe)
• Volta
• Nuxt UI *
• Nuxt Governance
• Nuxt Studio
• NuxtHub
• Laravel Vapor
• Cloudflare
• DejaVue #E051 - Vite Inside Out (with Matias "Patak" Capeletto)
• Strapi

Your Hosts

Michael Thiessen

• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

Alexander Lichter

• Bluesky
• YouTube
• Website

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In this episode of DejaVue, Michael and Alex chat with Matt Perry, the creator of Motion (formerly Framer Motion), about animations in web development.
Matt talks about his journey from designing gaming magazines as a kid to becoming a full-time developer, sharing his experiences with ActionScript, jQuery, and how Motion was born. They discuss how simple and powerful Motion's API is, its ability to work with different frameworks, and how it stacks up against other animation libraries like GSAP and AnimeJS.

But the episode also covers a lot of open source aspects, such as the challenges of keeping Motion going! 
Matt explains how Motion+ funds the development of Motion with one-time payments and time-gated (then publicly available) content, to support the project.

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Our Guest

Matt Perry

• Motion
• Personal Website
• Bluesky
• Twitter

Chapters

• (00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue

Links and Resources

• ActionScript
• ECMAScript
• Popmotion
• Motion
• Motion Vue
• Rick (Motion Vue maintainer)
• Framer
• DejaVue #054 - Open Source Sustainability (with Daniel Roe, Chad Whitacre & Rijk van Zanten)
• GSAP
• AnimeJS

Your Hosts

Michael Thiessen

• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

Alexander Lichter

• Bluesky
• YouTube
• Website

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In this episode of DejaVue, Alex and Michael are joined by Jared Wilcurt, UI architect and open source contributor, to get knee-deep into the world of testing in Vue.js, especially Snapshot Testing.

Jared shares his journey from React frustration to Vue enthusiasm, and explains how he identified gaps in Vue's testing ecosystem that led to the creation of his Vue 3 Snapshot Serializer library.
No matter if you are a testing novice, wondering why you should bother with tests at all, or an experienced developer looking to improve your snapshot testing workflow, this episode got something for you - from reducing test noise, improving readability, and gaining confidence in your Vue applications and components.

Discover how snapshot testing complements traditional assertion-based tests and why it might be the missing piece in your testing strategy.

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Our Guest

The Jared Wilcurt

• Vue 3 Snapshot Serializer
• Website
• Bluesky
• Twitter

Chapters

• (00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue

Links and Resources

• Riot JS
• Vue Indy Meetup
• Vue Doxen
• Old Jest Snapshot Serializer
• Vue Test Utils
• Testing Library Vue
• Playwright
• Vue 3 Snapshot Serializer
• DejaVue #E043 - The Year in ReVue (with Daniel Roe)

Your Hosts

Michael Thiessen

• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

Alexander Lichter

• Bluesky
• YouTube
• Website

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In this episode of DejaVue, Alex sits down with James Garbutt, open source maintainer and lead of the e18e initiative. James shares his journey from writing web scrapers as a teenager to maintaining critical JavaScript libraries like parse5 or Chokidar and eventually co-creating the ecosystem performance initiative.

The conversation is then all around e18e, which aims to improve performance across the JavaScript ecosystem through three pillars:

• Cleaning up dependency trees
• Speeding up popular packages
• Creating lighter alternatives to bloated libraries

James explains how the community-driven approach has produced impressive results all across the web development landscape.

Learn about real-world examples of performance improvements, including replacement packages like tinyglobby and nano-staged, and discover how to contribute to e18e even if you're new to open source. James shares also insights on balancing between backward compatibility and performance, bundling dependencies, and also shares future plans for e18e in 2025.

Enjoy the episode!

Our Guest

James "43081j" Garbutt

• e18e
• Website
• Bluesky

Chapters

• (00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue

Links and Resources

• Parse5
• Doom in TypeScript
• Flappy Bird in TS
• LitElement
• Speeding up the ecosystem blog post series by Marvin Hagemeister
• e18e issue overview
• e18e Discord
• minizlib install size improvements
• Storybook dependency tree reduction
• e18e module replacement repository
• Anthony Fu's node_modules inspector
• Publint by Bjorn Lu
• Umbrella CLI
• nano-staged (instead of lint-staged)
• npm-run-all2
• eslint-import-plugin-x (instead of eslint-plugin-import)
• tinyglobby (instead of any other glob lib like globby/fast-glob)
• fdir
• Vite Devtools announcement
• Bundling dependencies (and when not to do it)
• A lighter Nuxt CLI

Your Hosts

Alexander Lichter

• Bluesky
• YouTube
• Website

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Join hosts Michael Thiessen and Alexander Lichter for a special episode of DejaVue - a fascinating panel discussion on open source sustainability with three open source enthusiasts: 

• Daniel Roe (Nuxt Team Lead),
• Chad Whitacre (Head of Open Source at Sentry), and 
• Rijk van Zanten (CTO and co-founder of Directus).

The panelists dive deep into what sustainability truly means in open source and get deep into the weeds of different licensing models, debating whether open source functions as a gift economy, and discuss the challenges of project governance.

The panel also discusses important questions about leadership structures in open source projects, the role of companies in funding development, and practical ways everyone can contribute to making the ecosystem more sustainable - whether financially or through other meaningful contributions.

Enjoy the episode!

Our Guests

Daniel Roe - Nuxt Team Lead  

• Bluesky
• Web 

Chad Whitacre - Head of Open Source at Sentry  

• Bluesky
• Twitter
• Web

Rijk van Zanten - CTO and co-founder of Directus  

• Bluesky
• Twitter
• Web

Chapters

• (00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue

Links and Resources

• Mastering Nuxt*
• xkcd on standards
• Jacob Kaplan-Moss: Paying Maintainers is Good
• Sentry
• Directus
• Nuxt
• BSL
• Fair Source 
• MIT
• AGPL
• OSI
• BDFL
• Nuxt Governance
• Open Source Steward in the CRA
• Daniel Roe: Contributing to Nuxt
• Open Source Pledge

Your Hosts

Alexander Lichter

• Bluesky
• YouTube
• Website

Michael Thiessen

• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

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Nuxt 3.16 dropped and it's packed with goodies! In this episode, Alex and Michael break down all the cool stuff in this release that'll make your Nuxt development smoother.

They dive into the new command to initialize a Nuxt application, the performance-game-changing lazy hydration support that'll boost your app's performance, and named layer aliases (that you've been waiting for). Plus, huge performance improvements, better error messages with Nitro 2.11 and debugging improvements that'll save you hours of head-scratching.

But wait, there's more! The duo also geeks out over Nuxt UI v3, which (surprise!) now works with plain Vue.js too - not just Nuxt. Learn how it leverages Tailwind v4, introduces a sweet CSS variables-based design system, and builds on Reka UI primitives for better accessibility. And somehow, a discount code for Nuxt UI Pro* *cough DEJAVUE cough* gets snuck in there too!

Enjoy the episode!

Chapters

• (00:00) - Intro

Links and Resources

• Mastering Nuxt is out now!*
• Nuxt UI* 
• Get 20% OFF Nuxt UI PRO* with discount code DEJAVUE

• Nuxt 3.16 blog post
• Vue implementing Lazy Hydration
• Nuxt Lazy Hydration PR
• Lazy Hydration in-depth
• More about Nuxt Layers
• Revamping data fetching in Nuxt PR
• Nitro 2.11
• Youch
• Harlan's PR to speed up module resolution
• OXC PR
• Rolldown-vite
• CodSpeed
• Tailwind Variants

Your Hosts

Alexander Lichter

• Bluesky
• YouTube
• Website

Michael Thiessen

• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

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