Motive: Mr Lyttle Meets Mr Big

Motive: Mr Lyttle Meets Mr Big

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  • Conviction 02 | Poo Sticks

    There's fear and confusion after a child says 'I don't like Peter's black penis'. A second accusation causes the investigation to be ramped up.

    To see more images and details about Peter Ellis and the series, vist the website here.

    A child's comment to his mother that he 'doesn't like Peter's black penis' leads to Peter being suspended by his shocked supervisor and sets off the first depth charge beneath the community surrounding the creche

    Were children being sexually abused there, could anxious parents get accurate information from their sons and daughters, and who might be responsible?

    Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    50 min
  • Conviction 01 | Peter's Black Penis

    Who was Peter Ellis, the childcare worker at the centre of the accusations and how did he come to work there? Meet people with many different connections to what was to become New Zealand's most notorious child sexual abuse case.

    This series was first released on 29 September 2023.

    To see more images and details about Peter Ellis and the series, vist the website here.

    Who was Peter Ellis, the childcare worker at the centre of the accusations and how did he come to work there?

    To set the scene, we meet people with many different connections to what was to become the most notorious child sexual abuse case in this country's history.

    Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    55 min
  • Introducing: Conviction: The Christchurch Civic Creche Case

    What really happened at the Christchurch Civic Creche in the late 1980s and early 1990s? Was Peter Ellis wrongly convicted or should we believe the children. Listen to RNZ's new podcast and make up your own mind.

    To see more images and details about Peter Ellis and the series, vist the website here.

    In the early 1990's Aotearoa's garden city Christchurch was torn apart by accusations of child sexual abuse at a creche owned by the City Council.

    The story begins when a four year old boy makes the comment "I don't like Peter's black penis".

    This comment would propel 30-year-old childcare worker Peter Ellis into a nightmare which saw him spend seven years in prison for crimes he says he did not commit.

    Yet the children and families who accused Ellis are adamant he committed the crimes and that the results of his actions will be with them forever.

    Both sides of this story are convinced of their version of events. But three decades on the ripples from this case are still being felt right across New Zealand.

    This 12-part podcast has all the details from one of New Zealand's most controversial child abuse cases, from the people who were there.

    Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    3 min
  • Introducing: Motive - RNZ's true crime podcast super feed

    While it's the end of Nark, it's not the end of RNZ's true crime podcasts - welcome to RNZ's latest super feed called Motive. Dedicated to all things true crime, keep following this podcast feed to get episodes every Tuesday from RNZ's true crime back catalogue, as well as brand new shows as they get released. Listen out for award winning series like Conviction, Gone Fishing, Mr Lyttle Meets Mr Big and more right here in this podcast feed.

    Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    2 min
  • Nark 17 | Faith

    You've reached the final episode of Nark, but it's far from the end of the story.

    Mike Wesley-Smith looks at all the pieces uncovered during his investigation, all the bits still missing and discovers the hopes Suzanne Young and Julie Appelgren hold for resolution.

    Read more stories and see images from Nark on the RNZ website


    Special thanks to everyone who helped bring this podcast to life, especially Julie Appelgren and Suzanne Young.

    And thanks to Ngā Taonga and Mediaworks for some of the archival audio.

    AI was used to recreate the voice of Ross Appelgren. The only words used were those he wrote or said during his lifetime.

    If you have any further information on this case, please email [email protected]

    Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    59 min
  • Nark 16 | Fire and Fallout

    For years after the trials of Ross Appelgren, Ernie* had lived a quiet and crime-free life in Australia. But his domestic bliss didn’t last and the fallout resulted in a trans-Tasman diplomatic row. In this episode, Ernie* answers some of Mike’s lingering questions.

    *Names have been changed as they have name suppression or to protect their identity

    Read more stories and see images from Nark on the RNZ website


    Special thanks to everyone who helped bring this podcast to life, especially Julie Appelgren and Suzanne Young.

    And thanks to Ngā Taonga and Mediaworks for some of the archival audio.

    AI was used to recreate the voice of Ross Appelgren. The only words used were those he wrote or said during his lifetime.

    If you have any further information on this case, please email [email protected]

    Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    1 hr 2 min
  • Nark 15 | A Confession

    Five years after the death of Darcy Te Hira, two prison guards are quietly minding their own business when an inmate drops a bombshell. A confession that puts Ross Appelgren’s guilty verdict back in question.

    Read more stories and see images from Nark on the RNZ website


    Special thanks to everyone who helped bring this podcast to life, especially Julie Appelgren and Suzanne Young.

    And thanks to Ngā Taonga and Mediaworks for some of the archival audio.

    AI was used to recreate the voice of Ross Appelgren. The only words used were those he wrote or said during his lifetime.

    If you have any further information on this case, please email [email protected]

    Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    39 min
  • Nark 14 | Second Thoughts

    Mike Wesley-Smith puts Ross Appelgren’s claims of innocence under the microscope in this episode. While much of what Mike’s uncovered so far puts question marks over Ross’ guilt, there are bits of the story that point to him being the killer.

    Read more stories and see images from Nark on the RNZ website


    Special thanks to everyone who helped bring this podcast to life, especially Julie Appelgren and Suzanne Young.

    And thanks to Ngā Taonga and Mediaworks for some of the archival audio.

    AI was used to recreate the voice of Ross Appelgren. The only words used were those he wrote or said during his lifetime.

    If you have any further information on this case, please email [email protected]

    Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    59 min
  • Nark 13 | The Jack Up

    Ernie*, who had been living in Australia while Ross fought for his freedom, is back in court for the retrial. But as you’ll discover, he didn’t exactly come easily. And if you think you know how the story of Ross’ retrial ends – you’re in for a surprise.

    *Names have been changed as they have name suppression or to protect their identity

    Read more stories and see images from Nark on the RNZ website


    Special thanks to everyone who helped bring this podcast to life, especially Julie Appelgren and Suzanne Young.

    And thanks to Ngā Taonga and Mediaworks for some of the archival audio.

    AI was used to recreate the voice of Ross Appelgren. The only words used were those he wrote or said during his lifetime.

    If you have any further information on this case, please email [email protected]

    Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    51 min
  • Nark 12 | Quashed

    Ross Appelgren’s conviction is quashed, he begins rebuilding his life cementing a new future with his love – Julie. But his trials are not over – literally. In this episode we return to court for Ross’ retrial and hear the gobsmacking story of the inmate who flipped.

    Read more stories and see images from Nark on the RNZ website


    Special thanks to everyone who helped bring this podcast to life, especially Julie Appelgren and Suzanne Young.

    And thanks to Ngā Taonga and Mediaworks for some of the archival audio.

    AI was used to recreate the voice of Ross Appelgren. The only words used were those he wrote or said during his lifetime.

    If you have any further information on this case, please email [email protected]

    Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    1 hr 9 min

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