Mr. Swift and Ivan Throne are brothers, philosophers, warriors, theologians, martial artists and students of religion and history.

Ivan is also the author of the bestselling book, “The Nine Laws”.

They're not just mind and muscle, brains and brawn. They are also heart and spirit, feeling and soul.

Which doesn't make them less dangerous, but more.

In our conversation we discussed more fascinating topics than I can list, including:

• The potential future paths of American civilization, following the chaos of the past 2 years

What I appreciate about hosting a podcast is that it gives me the opportunity to go deep into dialogue with men whose backgrounds and philosophies are nothing like my own.

And like all my favorite episodes do, my guests this week remind me that in the grand scheme I have so little to teach about masculinity, and so much to learn.

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