The Will Spencer Podcast

In the nineties, David Ladwig was a white power skinhead. Today he's a husband, father and grandfather, active in prison ministry. And he's hearing the old jokes again, this time in church.

David grew up with an abusive, alcoholic father, professed Christ at twelve, joined the Marine Corps, and around 1994 started running with white power guys. He stayed for about six years. He didn't come in through philosophy. He had a lot of anger, and the movement gave it somewhere to go.

• How grievance lands on something already broken ("I started feeling like a victim because I'm white")
• The meetings that ran like a liturgy, and how the talk would "ramp, ramp, ramp"
• Street fights, and what he actually won
• Why the keyboard warriors stay home while young men end up with blood on their hands
• Why the jokes showing up in churches worry him
• What he'd say to his younger self, and why no man is a lost cause

Reach David Ladwig: [email protected]

My Fight Laugh Feast essay on genocide: [LINK]

Join the new Walk the Narrow book club (starts Nov 11): [LINK]

Black Sun book club on David Lane: [LINK]

Walk the Narrow by Raven's Anvil (our next book club)

Warrant for Genocide by Norman Cohn

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New season. The question that taught me what it means to be a man, why Christian men "hiding their power level" are lying, and my plan for this season, including the guests and our next book club.

It starts with a story from a men's initiation weekend I went through in 2013: a man in the middle of a silent room, a broken promise, and one question. "Number 34, what did you choose to do instead?" That question taught me what accountability and integrity are, and what it means to be a man.

Then I turn it on something I've watched grow all year: Christian men "hiding their power level." There's another word for it. It's called lying.

So here's the plan for this season. I've read more than four thousand pages on the far right this year, and now I'm going straight to the authors who wrote them. I lay out who I'm reaching out to, why many of them are on the left, the three questions you can ask any man you're worried about, and what a real repudiation sounds like. And I'm announcing our next book club: Walk the Narrow, by Raven's Anvil.

Let's get to work.

Join the Walk the Narrow book club (live sessions plus weekly office hours for paid subscribers): [LINK]

My interview with the former director of the ManKind Project's Chicago branch: [LINK]

Timothy Van Den Broek's sermon on John 8:44 (October 4, 2026): [LINK]

My podcast intro with Mark Musser: [LINK]

Every Man Gets Forged, my talk at New Saint Andrews College: [LINK]

My article for Christ Over All: [LINK]

Our Black Sun read-through: [LINK]

Executive Order 14401 (April 18, 2026): [LINK]

• Walk the Narrow by Raven's Anvil (our next book club)
• The Redeemed Man by Joel Beeke et al.
• Blood and Politics by Leonard Zeskind (new edition, introduction by Jerry Mitchell)
• Bring the War Home by Kathleen Belew
• Black Sun by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke
• It Came From Something Awful by Dale Beran
• The Beast Reawakens by Martin A. Lee
• Fascism: A Quick Immersion by Roger Griffin
• In Search of Anti-Semitism by William F. Buckley Jr.

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Season premiere. My full Disputatio lecture at New Saint Andrews College on the radicalization of young Christian men, antisemitism on the right, and how white nationalist ideas are entering the Reformed church.

On Friday, September 18, 2026, I spoke at New Saint Andrews College in Moscow, Idaho. The talk is titled "Every Man Gets Forged: On the Radicalization of Young Christian Men."

The talk covers two things. The first is the pipeline pulling young men, many of them professing Christians and conservatives, from an absent father through porn, video games, shame, and the Manosphere, until they blame the Jews for everything wrong in their lives. The second matters more: the old movement waiting at the end of that path, which traded the armband for a suit decades ago and is now tunneling into the Reformed church and conservative politics. It doesn't sound foreign when it arrives. It sounds like us.

This episode is the full talk, from the podium. Next week, I'll lay out what this season looks like and who I'll be sitting down with.

Let's get to work.

Mentioned in this episode:

• About Disputatio at New Saint Andrews College: [LINK]
• My article for Christ Over All, with the membership question for pastors: [LINK]
• New Saint Andrews granted permission to share the talk, but not the Q&A. You can watch the Q&A on their page here: [LINK]

Reading list from the talk:

• Blood and Politics by Leonard Zeskind (start here)
• Bring the War Home by Kathleen Belew
• Black Sun by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke
• It Came From Something Awful by Dale Beran
• Lost Boys by James Bloodworth
• Warrant for Genocide by Norman Cohn
• In Search of Anti-Semitism by William F. Buckley Jr.

Connect:

• Substack: [LINK]
• Men's mentorship: [LINK]

After three months away, I'm back with an update.

Our son Isaiah was born at home on May 4, and I spent the summer being a dad instead of doing interviews. I don't regret a minute of it. In this short episode I catch you up on where I've been, what happened while I was gone, and why new interviews start after Labor Day.

Thank you for the messages and the prayers. They meant more than you know.

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A brief personal update from Will: our son Isaiah was born on Monday morning. Mom, baby, and big sister are all doing well. Praise God.

New episodes will resume in a week or two. Thank you for your patience, and for your prayers.

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Hitler Hated Christ has spent the better part of a decade compiling primary historical sources documenting Adolf Hitler's hostility toward Christ and Christianity, and refuting the Holocaust denial and revisionism circulating in dissident-right and online hyper-nationalist Christian spaces.

He runs the Substack Hitler Hated Christ, the YouTube channel @NotOurGuy, and engages daily on X under the same name. He works under a pseudonym for reasons that should be obvious after listening.

In this conversation we build an affirmative case for the historical reality of the Holocaust. Not to score points. Not to call everyone a Nazi. To assemble the documents, speeches, diaries, and photographs into a picture so clear that the memes don't survive contact with the evidence.

We trace Hitler's racial antisemitism from Mein Kampf through Nazi state policy, examine the means, motive, and opportunity behind the Holocaust, and address the most common denialist talking points head-on. We also discuss the spiritual cost of doing this work, why the "Hitler was a Christian Prince" myth has gained traction among self-identified Christian men, and why pastors who launder this material no longer deserve the title.

If you care about young men and the future of the church, this material is essential listening.

Why People Deny the Holocaust and How We Know It Actually Happened

https://youtu.be/xDwgd1YUQM8?si=6DtmCf9YlvMdulJq

MartinezPolitics and David Cole

https://youtu.be/MgPcx5tNZW8?si=RpH2pABe38krEOQu

Stone Choir and the Big Lie Lies

https://youtu.be/SFz5pDQdOp0?si=F5H4NelaqjhOYNDO

• Why "Hitler was a Christian Prince" is a lie that doesn't survive contact with Mein Kampf
• The pantheistic worship of nature underneath Nazi racial ideology
• How the gassing motif appeared in Nazi rhetoric fifteen years before the camps
• The 1933 Law for the Prevention of Offspring with Hereditary Diseases
• The Wannsee Conference and the architecture of the Final Solution
• Why "liquidation" in the Goebbels diaries means exactly what it sounds like
• The "extermination ghetto" as an internal Nazi administrative category
• How David Irving conceded gassings and mass killing — and what's left of denialism after that
• Why Holocaust denial in Germany is rare among neo-Nazis (they don't deny it; they celebrate it)
• The spiritual cost of engaging this material, and why the body of Christ is essential to it

Hitler Hated Christ on Substack — https://hitlerhatedchrist.com

YouTube — @NotOurGuy

X — @not_our_guy

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Something has been poisoning the conservative movement for thirty years. It's in the podcasts, the reels, and the content you consume every day. And there is a documented trail from a forged document designed to justify genocide straight to your Spotify subscriptions. Black Sun Session 7.

In this episode, Will Spencer covers Chapter 14 of Black Sun — Conspiracy Beliefs and the New World Order — tracing the line from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion through Bill Cooper and David Icke into the conspiracy content millions consume today. He asks the question nobody in the conspiracy world wants to answer: what has it actually produced?

Purchase Black Sun by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke

Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0814731554

• What has the conspiracy world actually produced?
• Bill Cooper, Behold a Pale Horse, and the Protocols reprinted in full
• David Icke, entryism, and the New Age transmission belt
• The Protocols weaponized conspiracy thinking into antisemitism
• Cooper's explicit calls for violence
• QAnon, the QAnon Shaman, and the storm that never came
• The Islam-far right alliance: Iraq then, Iran now
• Tucker Carlson, Russell Brand, and the killing of Charlie Kirk
• COVID as the floodgate for thirty years of conspiracy infrastructure
• Ron Paul vs. Alex Jones: two models of questioning authority
• The conspiracy worldview as a prison: self-sealing, fruitless, endless
• Blurry Creatures, Haunted Cosmos, and conspiracy as mainstream entertainment
• Will's testimony: twenty years in the New Age conspiracy world
• The theological exit: afraid men don't build

Exiting the New Age

If this episode hit close to home, Will's course breaks down the New Age worldview from the inside, including how conspiracy beliefs function as a spiritual counterfeit.

https://willspencer.co/exit

• Black Sun — Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke
• Behold a Pale Horse — Bill Cooper
• The Robots' Rebellion — David Icke
• Warrant for Genocide — Norman Cohn
• The Plot — Will Eisner
• A Rumor About the Jews — Stephen Eric Bronner
• Nazi Ecology — Dr. Mark Musser
• Antisemite and Jew — Jean-Paul Sartre
• Libido Dominandi — E. Michael Jones
• The Archaic Revival — Terence McKenna
• None Dare Call It Conspiracy — Gary Allen
• Secret Societies and Their Power in the 20th Century — Jan van Helsing
• The Illuminatus Trilogy — Robert Anton Wilson
• The Turner Diaries — William Luther Pierce

The Book Club is a private reading group where we work through serious books slowly and carefully — not for hot takes or outrage, but for Christian spiritual and intellectual formation.

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Christopher Kuehl has spent nearly two decades watching how Christians lose their bearings over the question of Israel and the Jewish people.

Christopher has traveled to more than thirty countries, lived in Israel multiple times, worked as a photographer for Sony and Rolling Stone, and founded four technology companies. He is currently earning his master's degree in theology and serves as COO of Restore7 and founder of Present Witness, a ministry addressing modern theological questions around Israel, the Jewish people, and the church.

Christopher is the author of Is God a Zionist? Finding God's Story in a World Obsessed with Israel.

In this conversation we explore why good men and women lose their minds over the Jewish question, how antisemitism captures its adherents and becomes the gravity around which everything spins, and why the modern state of Israel has become a theological flashpoint the church cannot afford to handle carelessly. We also discuss the shared pre-Jesus seeking path that led both Christopher and me through Burning Man, ayahuasca, and the New Age before we found Christ — and why the New Age cannot syncretize the Old Testament.

If you've watched friends or family fall into obsessive antisemitism, or you're trying to make sense of Israel theologically, this conversation offers a framework for thinking clearly.

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• The scapegoating pattern across history
• Why October 7th was a break point for the church
• How antisemitism captures and consumes its adherents
• The New Age connection to modern antisemitism
• The shared pre-Jesus seeking path through Burning Man, ayahuasca, and the New Age
• What the church fathers assumed about Jewish exile — and why 1948 changed everything
• E. Michael Jones and the online anti-Jewish movement
• Sartre's Anti-Semite and Jew and the character of obsession
• Non-dispensational Zionism and the voice of many waters
• Jewish people coming to Christ through New Age seeking in Israel
• Why the Old Testament is the one thing the New Age cannot syncretize
• Christianity becoming "trendy" without addressing the Jewish question

Is God a Zionist? Finding God's Story in a World Obsessed with Israel — Christopher Kuehl

https://www.presentwitness.org/igaz

Buy "Is God A Zionist?" on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GNP65L8N

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This isn't Reformed. It's a prison cell. A convicted murderer rewrote the Beatitudes with Thor's hammer, ran a publishing house from federal prison, and his ideas are now circulating in Reformed Christian spaces. Black Sun Session 6.

In this episode, Will Spencer covers Chapter 13 of Black Sun by historian Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke — Nordic Racial Paganism — and traces the direct line from white supremacist ideology into the modern Reformed world.

Three figures anchor the chapter. Wyatt Kaldenberg, who called Christianity the theology of self-hatred and said the Holocaust should be celebrated, not denied. Jost Turner, a Vietnam vet who built a National Socialist commune in Northern California where he practiced swastika-posture yoga directed by a supposedly immortal Himalayan guru toward white racial evolution. And David Lane — convicted murderer, author of the 14 words, who died in prison serving 190 years and whose 14 Word Press published the first English edition of Miguel Serrano's esoteric Hitlerist theology.

Will documents how the number 1183 — modeled on Lane's 1488 — appeared on Christmas ornaments alongside Stephen Wolfe's book cover, produced by Ethan Holden of the Jolly Brawler. He addresses the silence of Reformed pastors and influencers who have never asked why these men feel at home in their orbit. And he walks through Carl Jung's 1960 warning that the weakness of orthodox Christianity creates the conditions for the pagan Wotan archetype to erupt again.

Purchase Black Sun by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke

Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0814731554

• Why every successor to Hitler rejected Christianity
• Kaldenberg, Turner, and Lane: three faces of Nordic racial paganism
• David Lane's 14 Word Press and the Serrano connection
• Wotan as a substitute Yahweh — father god without the cross
• Biblical Christianity vs. the Übermensch mind
• 1488 to 1183: from white supremacists to Reformed Christians
• The Holden brothers, Stephen Wolfe, and Pastor Brian Sauvé
• Carl Jung's 1960 warning about the Wotan archetype
• Warrant for Genocide announcement and next book club
• Nazi Ecology and the paganization of Germany
• Volkishness in Reformed circles
• Francis Parker Yockey and culture distortion theory
• Steve McNallen and the Asatru Free Assembly fracture
• David Lane's biography, the 14 words, and the rewritten Beatitudes
• Joel Webbon and the 14 words in the Reformed world
• Jung's Wotan essay and the eruption of the archetype
• The volkisch problem: why you can't scrape off the paganism

• Black Sun — Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke
• Warrant for Genocide — Norman Cohn
• The Plot — Will Eisner
• A Rumor About the Jews — Stephen Eric Bronner
• Antisemite and Jew — Jean-Paul Sartre
• In Search of Anti-Semitism — William F. Buckley Jr.
• Nazi Ecology — Dr. Mark Musser
• Is God a Zionist? — Christopher Kuhl
• Autobiography of a Yogi — Paramahansa Yogananda
• The Golden Chain: Esoteric Hitlerism — Miguel Serrano
• Temple of Wotan — Ron McVann
• Behold a Pale Horse — Bill Cooper
• The Lightning and the Sun — Savitri Devi
• Might is Right — Ragnar Redbeard

The Book Club is a private reading group where we work through serious books slowly and carefully — not for hot takes or outrage, but for Christian spiritual and intellectual formation.

Learn more and join here:

https://www.willspencer.blog/7a2894cd

Website: https://willspencer.co

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Stuck on something you can't fix on your own? I mentor Christian men one-on-one for 12 weeks. We start with three hours where I mostly listen, then weekly calls and daily access to me in between, under the authority of Scripture. If you're serious, book a call: https://willspencer.co/mentorship

Exiting the New Age (course, $29): https://willspencer.co/exit

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Dr. Brian J. Crawford is the Director of Digital Evangelism for Chosen People Ministries and the author of The Scandal of a Divine Messiah: A Response to Maimonidean and Kabbalistic Challenges to the Incarnation. This is part two of two.

In part one, Brian shared his 20-year journey from a beach in Tel Aviv to the streets of Orthodox Brooklyn. In this episode, we get into his book — and the two philosophical traditions that have walled Jewish people off from considering Jesus as Messiah for centuries.

The first is Maimonides, the towering 12th-century Jewish philosopher who used Aristotelian logic to argue that it is metaphysically impossible for God to take on human flesh. The second is Kabbalah, the Jewish mystical tradition rooted in Neoplatonism and Gnosticism, which argues the incarnation is redundant because everything is already divine.

Brian explains how both traditions imported Greek philosophical ideas into Judaism — often without realizing it — and how those ideas, not the Hebrew scriptures, became the real foundation for Jewish objections to Jesus. In this conversation we discuss:

• Why Orthodox Jews consider the incarnation idolatrous
• How Maimonides used Aristotle to argue God cannot become man
• How Kabbalah's Neoplatonic mysticism makes the incarnation redundant
• The hidden Greek philosophical foundations of Orthodox Judaism
• How the New Testament uses Greek categories without importing Greek errors
• Why Brian kept the New Testament out of the first two-thirds of his book
• The incarnation as the singular crossover between God and the world
• How the book has been received by Orthodox Jewish readers
• Brian's current PhD work on Maimonides' 13 Principles
• Book recommendations for Reformed Christians on Israel

Reformed Christian men. Every other Tuesday on Zoom.

$90/month, 3-month commitment. Starts with a screening call.

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Chosen People Ministries — https://chosenpeople.com

Chosen People Answers — https://chosenpeopleanswers.com

About Messiah — https://aboutmessiah.com

The Scandal of a Divine Messiah — https://chosenpeopleanswers.com/the-scandal-of-a-divine-messiah/

Support Brian's ministry — https://chosenpeople.com/pray4brian

• The Scandal of a Divine Messiah — Brian J. Crawford
• Future Israel — Barry Horner
• The Guide for the Perplexed — Maimonides
• Against Heresies — Irenaeus

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Stuck on something you can't fix on your own? I mentor Christian men one-on-one for 12 weeks. We start with three hours where I mostly listen, then weekly calls and daily access to me in between, under the authority of Scripture. If you're serious, book a call: https://willspencer.co/mentorship

Exiting the New Age (course, $29): https://willspencer.co/exit

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