Kevin Weisner and Lukas Bentel are the Chief Creative Officers of MSCHF, the subversive Brooklyn-based art collective known for “drops” like the Big Red Boots, Key4All, Tax Heaven, Satan Shoes and more. They join us to discuss their new book, "Made By MSCHF", the importance of creative antagonists, defending Rothko, never having KPIs, virality is cheap and hating on golf.

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