On today's Global Exchange Podcast, Colin Robertson is joined by Ambassador Tom Pickering and former U.S. official Atman Trivedi to discuss their latest piece in Foreign Affairs: "The International Order Did Not Fail the Pandemic Alone."

Participants bios:

- Tom Pickering is a career ambassador who has represented the U.S. abroad for 40 years and last served the U.S. government as under secretary of state for political affairs. https://www.brookings.edu/experts/thomas-pickering/

- Atman Trivedi is the Managing Director of Hills & Company, an adjunct fellow of the Pacific Council, and is a former official at the U.S. Department of Commerce. https://www.pacificcouncil.org/about/network/profile/atman-m-trivedi

Host Bio:

- Colin Robertson (host): Vice President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.

Links:

- Pickering & Trivedi, "The International Order Did Not Fail the Pandemic Alone," Foreign Affairs, https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/world/2020-05-14/international-order-didnt-fail-pandemic-alone

Recommended Readings:

- William Burns, The Back Channel, https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/561709/the-back-channel-by-william-j-burns/

- Susan Rice, Tough Love, https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Tough-Love/Susan-Rice/9781501189975

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Recording Date: 28 May 2020.

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Produced by Jay Rankin. Music credits to Drew Phillips.