Murder, Murder on the Wall

In this episode of Murder Murder on the Wall, Stacey and Kelly dive into one of Indonesia’s most notorious true crime cases: the death of 27-year-old Mirna Salihin and the conviction of her former college friend, Jessica Wongso.

In January 2016, Mirna met Jessica and another friend at Olivier Café inside Jakarta’s Grand Indonesia mall. She took a sip of Vietnamese iced coffee, said it tasted terrible, and was dead less than an hour later. Police said the coffee contained cyanide and accused Jessica of poisoning her—but almost immediately, questions emerged. There was no full autopsy, the chain of custody was messy, and CCTV never captured Jessica actually putting anything into Mirna’s drink.

Jessica was convicted of murder and sentenced to 20 years in prison, but the case—later examined in the Netflix documentary Ice Cold: Murder, Coffee and Jessica Wongso—remains deeply controversial. So what actually happened to Mirna Salihin? And was Jessica Wongso guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?

Before the cyanide coffee, Kelly brings us an amuse-bouche featuring Taylor Frankie Paul, MomTok, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, The Bachelorette and enough toxic friendship drama to make poisoned coffee seem almost refreshing.

Plus, we answer a listener question about the beauty products, treatments and trends everyone else swears by—but we’re still side-eyeing.

BEAUTY + A LISTENER QUESTION! at 1:40

Lyma Laser

TheraFace Depuffing Wand 

Omnilux Red Light Mask 

Huda Beauty Easy Baked Blurring Setting Powder

DAE Fairy Blaster Dry Texturizing Spray 

Too Faced Lip Injection Maximum Plump Hydrating Lip Plumper

Milk Make-up Hydro Grip Gel Tint 

Tula Skincare Spresso Energizing Eye Balm 

Ilia Eye Stylus Shadow Stick 

Stacey Sources: 

Wikipedia Murder of Mirna Salahin

Netflix Ice Cold 

PEOPLE.com 

Reddit/Casefile 

New York Times 

BBC

Sydney Morning Herald

Medium.com

The Guardian

CDC Cyanide

The Jakarta Post 

Grand Indonesia Mall

Bath & Body Works 

Kelly Additional Sources: 

Australian Broadcast News ABC

Australian Broadcast News

Australian Broadcast News

Kompas

Jakarta News

Season 2, Episode 5: Cari Farver: The True Story of Stalking, Catfishing and Murder 

In this episode of Murder Murder on the Wall, Stacey and Kelly dive into the shocking true crime case of Cari Farver, a Nebraska woman whose disappearance became one of the most disturbing stories of stalking, catfishing, obsession, identity theft, and murder in recent memory. What begins as a seemingly ordinary dating relationship quickly spirals into years of harassment, manipulation, and deception that left investigators—and everyone involved—struggling to separate fact from fiction.

Before unpacking the tragic murder of Cari Farver, we take a detour into the latest Bravo drama, breaking down the tangled relationship dynamics between Ciara Miller, West Wilson, and Amanda Batula from Summer House. Consider it the amuse-bouche before one of the most unbelievable love-triangle cases ever covered on the podcast.

Plus, all this discussion of people not being what they seem has us taking a hard look at some recent beauty purchases and asking an important question: are these products delivering on their promises, or are we being catfished, too?

Beauty: 

Danessa Myricks Yummy Skin Blurring Balm Powder 

Ultra Violette Sheen Screen Hydrating Sunscreen Lip Balm

Sarah Creal Today’s Highlights 12H Peptide Balm Luminizer 

Aesop Deodorant 

Aesop Solais Replenishing Hand Serum

KJH Brand Lip and Cheek Smudge Lively Pink

NudeStix Nudies All Over Face Blush

Also mentioned: The Loving Way Foundation 

True Crime Society: The Murder of Cari Farver

Findlaw: State vs. Golyar

ABC News

PEOPLE

Omaha KETV

The Des Moines Register

The Sun

Dateline Something About Cari 

Netflix Lover, Stalker, Killer

A&E Crime and Investigation

Crime and Investigation

Ugh, beauties—this is your warning: this episode is extremely dark.

This week, we cover the case of Ian Watkins, former lead singer of Lostprophets, and the shocking crimes that went unchecked for far too long. It’s a devastating look at celebrity, power, and how systems can fail to act—even when warning signs are repeatedly reported.

This is one of the most disturbing cases we’ve ever covered, involving serious crimes against children. Listener discretion is strongly advised.

If this topic is too much, we completely understand—feel free to skip ahead to our beauty segment at 1:21:44 (yes, it’s a long one).

Beauty: 

The Dr. Sturm Controversy in WSJ Mag

Trader Joes Hyaluronic Acid Serum

The Ordinary Hyaluronic Acid

The Ordinary Lash Serum 

Dermatologist-founded product line with years of research: 

SkinCeuticals

Sephora Brush Set 

KELLY LINKS

Vanicream

Squalane Oil

Laura Geller Spackle with SPF QVC

Laura Geller Spackle Hydrate Amazon

Emotional Support Chaos Cloths for Glasses

Wales Online 

Ian Watkins: Disgraced Lostprophets singer was ambassador for young people

NY Times: 

Child Pornography was Research, Says British Rocker 

The Independent:

BBC:

Ian Watkins Wikipedia 

Ian “H” Watkins Wikipedia 

KELLY SOURCES 

BBC

Ian Watkins Dies in Prison

Wikipedia

Ian Watkins

Judiciary Docs/Ian Watkins

BBC

 Joanne Mjadzelics Not Guilty

Social Work News

The Mothers who Chose the Monster

The Guardian

Police missed SOOOO Many Chances

Netflix has a new documentary about pro-cyclist, Moriah Wilson. Her amazing life and tragic end. We recycyled (get it?) our episode detailing a beautiful life cut short.

It’s a winding (gravel) road that Kelly and Stacey are going down this week covering the heartbreaking murder of elite pro cyclist Anna Moriah “Mo” Wilson - and the unbelievable escape of yogi Kaitlin Armstrong. Yes, Stacey knows that she says “Tour of France” instead of “Tour de France”. She just needs a trip to Europe to straighten things out, okay?

Our sources:

BikeRadar.com: Gravel Riding Explained by Katherine Moore

VTSports.com: Moriah Wilson: The Real Story by Lisa Lynn

VTSports.com: Moriah Wilson: Vermont’s Super Star Gravel Racer by Ian King 

CBSAustin.com Daily Trial Recaps by Jessica Taylor

Dailymail.co.uk  Killer Kaitlin Armstrong Snared by US Marshalls by Germana Rodriguez Poleo

KXAN.com Ahead of Armstrongs Trial, A Look Back by Kelsey Thompson, Sam Stark, Avery Travis Dalton Huey, Julianna Russ, Brianna Hollis, Jaclyn Ramkisson

CBSNews.com Fugitive Kaitlin Armstrong Caught by answering US. Marshalls ad for Yoga Instructor byJonathan Vigilotti

Also mentioned: 

Kinship Milk Tea

Mo Wilson Substack 

Mo Wilson Instagram 

At 41:31 it’s all things clean beauty - and an app that will change your life. Mentioned in this episode: 

Skin Trip Coconut Moisturizer

The YUKA App

Merit Beauty 

Rahua Classic Shampoo

Roz Milk Hair Serum

Biologique Recherche ISO-Placenta Regenerating Face Cream

Mrs. Meyer Clean Day Liquid Geranium Hand Soap

Ilia Beauty 

Kosas 

Dawn Original: Safe for Ducks!

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What happens when competitive cheerleading, small-town status, and obsessive parenting collide? In this episode of Murder Murder on the Wall, Stacey and Kelly dive into the infamous true-crime case of Wanda Holloway, the Texas mother who tried to hire a hitman to kill another mom — all to secure her daughter’s spot on the middle school cheerleading squad.

Known nationwide as the “Pom Pom Mom,” Wanda Holloway’s shocking plot turned a local Texas story into a national media spectacle in the early 1990s. What began as intense cheerleading rivalry in Channelview, Texas spiraled into a bizarre murder-for-hire scheme involving wiretaps, undercover recordings, and one of the strangest parental scandals in American true-crime history. 

Before we get to the crime, we do our best to unpack the mom-group drama that unfolded in Ashley Tisdale’s viral essay about being excluded from a celebrity mom group.

Why does motherhood sometimes bring out such intense social competition - ie the worst in us? And how does that pressure spiral into behavior that feels straight out of middle school?

Buckle up, moms. This one’s for you. 

Beauty: 

Skinceuticals HA Intensifier 

Hanni The Fatty Moisture Stick

Cadence Travel Containers 

SAIE Make Up Setting Spray

NYX Make Up Setting Spray 

Fara Homidi Essential Lip Compact 

 Biolage Conditioner

Shark Flex

Texas Monthly — The Cheerleader Mom Plot

New York Times — Texas Woman Accused in Cheerleader Plot

People Magazine — The Pom Pom Mom Case

The Atlantic — coverage of the Channelview case

HBO Documentary — The Texas Cheerleader Murder Plot

Good Morning America interview with Shanna Harper

MMOTW Episode #21 Port Arthur Massacre

We are re-releasing this episode in light of the horrific events at Bondi Beach in Australia and Brown University in Rhode Island. 

We first released this episode in March of 2025. Since then, there have been approximately 330 mass shootings in the United States. 

We are headed way down under to Australia today. Tasmania, to be exact. According to all my Google images, this island off the southern end of Australia is stunning, with beaches, bays, and quorkas. We are not a travel podcast, so we are not covering all of Tasmania’s tourist destinations, but we will talk about a horrific day at one of them. Port Arthur, where on April 28th, 1996, a man committed the worst mass murder in Australian history. We will also tell you why that doesn’t happen anymore. Hint: It’s gun laws. We don’t have those in America. 

It is not all dark and dreary on MMOTW. We get into some real blah reviews of some Oscar Glam. YAWN and awful. Don’t worry, we were in our sweats while judging. 

Stacey will explain what mummification means, and then we have some banging beauty tips. All by women-owned beauty brands for Women’s History Month! Don’t forget to keep making history! Now, more than ever.

Sources:

Stanford study

Casefile Podcast 

Wikipedia Port Arthur Massacre

Britannica

Wikipedia NFA

Sydney Morning Herald

Criminal Minds

Wikipedia Martin Bryant

News and Beauty

1:07

Gene Hackman Betsy Arakawa

Katie Jane Hughes KJH Make-up

Spectrum Brushes

Pat McGrath Red Lip

SuperGoop

MMOTW Episode #21 Port Arthur Massacre

We are headed way down under to Australia today. Tasmania, to be exact. According to all my Google images, this island off the southern end of Australia is stunning, with beaches, bays, and quokkas. We are not a travel podcast, so we are not covering all of Tasmania’s tourist destinations, but we will talk about a horrific day at one of them. Port Arthur, where on April 28th, 1996, a man committed the worst mass murder in Australian history. We will also tell you why those don’t happen there anymore. Hint: It’s gun laws. We don’t have those in America. 

It is not all dark and dreary on MMOTW. We get into some real blah reviews of some Oscar Glam. YAWN and awful. Don’t worry, we were in our sweats while judging. 

Stacey will explain what mummification means, and then we have some banging beauty tips. All by women-owned beauty brands for Women’s History Month! Don’t forget to keep making history! Now, more than ever.

Sources:

Stanford study

Casefile Podcast 

Wikipedia Port Arthur Massacre

Britannica

Wikipedia NFA

Sydney Morning Herald

Criminal Minds

Wikipedia Martin Bryant

News and Beauty

1:07

Gene Hackman Betsy Arakawa

Katie Jane Hughes KJH Make-up

Spectrum Brushes

Pat McGrath Red Lip

SuperGoop

Anastasia

Vitner's Daughter

Wonder Valley

Joanna Czech

Saint Jane

In this episode of Murder, Murder on the Wall, Stacey and Kelly dive deep into the true story of Meredith Kercher, the 21-year-old British exchange student murdered in Perugia, Italy in 2007. While most true-crime coverage focuses on Amanda Knox, this episode shifts the narrative back to Meredith—her life, her personality, and the details of her final days.

We break down the real timeline, what happened in the Perugia cottage, and the conviction of Rudy Guede, who was ultimately found guilty of her murder. If you're searching for who killed Meredith Kercher, the truth about the Amanda Knox case, or background on the 2007 Perugia murder, this episode delivers a clear, compassionate, fact-driven retelling.

We also give you our favorite fall skincare and makeup recommendations—the products we’re obsessed with and why they're magic for your cold-weather routine.

🎙️ Episode Highlights

🔪 True Crime Deep Dive: The Murder of Meredith Kercher

💄 Beauty + Skincare Segment (Fall Edition) - 1:19:34

We share the must-have products that saved our skin post-Halloween chaos:

Sources:

Meredith Kercher Case File Library 

BBC: Why the new Amanda Knox TV Drama is Misguided

Meredith by John Kercher

Casefile Case 270 Meredith Kercher

Wiki Meredith Kercher

It’s well into the school year but Stacey and Kelly are feeling very academic. New clothes, new pens. Sometimes green pens that get left behind at a crime scene. In this episode, we try to unpack how schools - specifically colleges and universities - have become fraught with tragedy. Like how none of us can unsee or unfeel the 2022 murders of four University of Idaho students who have heartbreakingly become the Idaho Four. Then we tell the story of Annie Le - a graduate student at Yale University whose murder should never be forgotten. Annie disappeared four days before she was supposed to marry her college sweetheart. Instead of walking down the aisle, she was brutally murdered by yet another violent man with an inferiority complex. It’s a theme, beauties, and we’re not happy about it. To make up for it, we’re giving you a beauty segment that, in the words of Queen Rihanna, is like diamonds in the sky. Or on our faces. And our nails. Shine bright like a diamond, beauties. This is a rough one. 

Sources

The Idaho Four: An American Tragedy

Yale Daily News

Rochester EDU

NYTimes

Oxygen

NH Register

Yale Alumni

BEAUTY/FASHION 55:38

Brightwood Skin

Dr. Idriss

Phoebe Philo

Slik Nik Nails (Stacey) IG

Phouk Nails (Kelly)  IG

COS Tote

Nour Hammour Jacket

MMOTW SEASON TWO! Episode 1 The Murder of Gail Katz

HEY! We are back! We renewed ourselves for Season 2! Get ready, Beauties!

This week we’re diving into the chilling case of Robert Bierenbaum, the handsome, charming New York plastic surgeon who seemed to have it all—a thriving career, a love of flying planes, and a picture-perfect marriage. But behind the polished surface was a dark and violent truth. When his wife Gail Katz vanished without a trace in 1985, friends and family were left searching for answers… and the truth about Robert would take years, a torso,and a roving gang of ex girlfriends dishing the dirt before Robert was brought crashing back to earth.

Don’t worry, we are still going to give you the plot of a whole entire movie from 2006. We are even going to be wheeling the beverage cart out and serving up some And Just Like That  and SATC fun stuff (RIP Carrie and the gang)

Can you help us get season 2 soaring?? Please like, share, review, repeat. Tell all your friends and neighbors and give us a follow, ya’ll.

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News and movies

Unfaithful

16 Candles

Also..Jake

1:08

Iconic Looks SJP

Take me out to the ballgame

I am sorry I slept with your husband Dior

He broke up with me on a POST-IT Cute Lob

One Word: "Versace" SATC and AJLT

Hair Number 4 Super cute and curly bob. Only when side parted!

Cinnabon Perfection

Beauty: All the menopauses

Evening Wear Night Cream

The Full Monty

The Power Move-Serum

Violet Grey

Dr. Loretta Sunscreen

Barrier Screen Cream

Tightening Eye Cream

Micro-peel pads

What is Ectoin?

20/20 Do No Harm

Murder By Medic

Wiki

The Sun

The New Yorker

NYTimes

The NY Post 

ABC

Since Karen Read is repeating, we thought it would be a good time to repeat one of our first episodes. In episode 3, practically still in the womb, we dove right into one of the most polarizing and controversial cases in the history of ever. Or at least in the Northeast.