No, really it does.

In this episode we discuss a series of articles recommended by friend-of-the-show Darren Hemmings in this substack post.

As the title suggests, we consider the ethics of AI music from two separate angles.

And finally we look at the increasing dominance of standup comedy in the ecosystem of live events.

I will never stand being accused of cynical ragebait!

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00:00 Intro

03:58 Changes in the business of social media

08:08 dBridge Substack post

16:35 Is algorithmic influence any different to human influence?

19:44 Why musicians hate the press

24:52 Dance music deserves to be destroyed by AI

35:03 The success of standup comedy

41:37 Transgressive comedy vs music

51:48 Conclusions

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What does the new age of oligarchy mean for the future of art and the cultural sector?

And what can we learn from previous era of extreme inequality?

Weighty question on this episode of the podcast...

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00:00 Intro

02:30 Elon, Tesla, and SpaceX

07:23 The Gilded Age

10:34 Andrew Carnegie

27:27 Busting the Trusts

31:24 Help needed now

36:36 How left wing are you?

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Corporate money is the wellspring of great art... discuss!

Also, the demise of Nina, Juno Download, and eventually Subvert.

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00:00 Intro

03:18 Money and art

11:04 Downloads are dead

23.33 Conclusions

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Carl Craig is a producer, DJ, and label owner from Detroit. 

A feature-length documentary, Desire: The Carl Craig Story, is available to stream now. 

Listen to the reissue of 'Meditations' LP.

We discuss the history of Detroit music, the development of techno, the influence of other areas of popular culture on dance music, and the breadth of his musical experiences from playing guitar in bands as a teenager to being a current artist-in-residence at Michigan State University.

This is a conversation with a true legend who does not disappoint! 

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00:00 Intro

02:00 The documentary

07:15 Judging artists' work

14:08 Jungle and the UK rave scene

20:29 Breakthrough and early material

25:20 Popular culture and dance music

31:55 Collaboration and solo work

35:48 Bring back guitars

41:55 The Electrifying Mojo

54:46 Techno and Motown

01:01:58 Frankfurt vs Berlin

01:08:50 Black music and diversity

01:19:47 Artist in residence at MSUFCU

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The bulk of this episode is a deep dive on the Live Nation / Ticketmaster situation.

We look at the system of practices that has developed since the merger in 2010, the recent ruling, and the possible future arrangements in a world where the ruling (currently subject to appeal) is put into practice.

But separately, we also discuss why the Chaotic Good marketing approach is actually a good thing for music...!

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00:00 Support the podcast

03:00 Is Chaotic Good actually good?

07:28 Ticketing

31:41 Closing

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This week on Music Not Diving we decouple from the Youtube feed and get into the ongoing debate around AI. Sceptics like Ed Zitron have come to prominence with their doubts about the viability of business models of the big AI firms, but in music Suno is busily destroying artistry and the effect of the general LLMs has upended other bits of the industry too.

So what does this all mean?

And we also learn about the ceiling of the Rolls Royce Phantom and what that might mean for vintage mix consoles.

Bob Lefsetz piece on the Indie Alliance: lefsetz.com/wordpress/2026/03/31/the-indie-alliance/

Shawn's referenced piece: firstfloor.substack.com/p/the-majors-are-ushering-in-an-era

Ted Gioia referenced piece: www.honest-broker.com/p/four-steps-to-hell

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00:00 Intro

02:00 Future of the pod

06:50 The Indie Alliance

12:30 Major labels and AI

15:00 AI scepticism

20:17 New Suno model

29:20 Rolls Royce and music

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What does the music industry have in common with Swiss watches? Quite a lot, as we discover on this solo episode of the podcast...

The latest Morgan Stanley Swiss watch industry report can be viewed here.

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00:00 Intro

05:52 The current landscape

10:08 Volume vs luxury

14.07 The key players

19.11 How the successful acts do it

24.32 Can listeners pick up the slack?

27.10 The real problem

30.20 Conclusions

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Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Centre with two of the most important people in the contemporary techno scene in India. This is part II...

Sanil Sudan, aka FILM, is one of the best electronic producers to come out of India. Based in New Delhi, he has been involved in all aspects of the scene over the past decade and more: DJing, promoting parties, running one of India’s first booking agencies (UnMute), as well as making beats as FILM and other aliases including the techno-focused Tyrell Dub Corp. '

We discuss his production process, differing approaches to studio techniques including classic synths and sampling, hidden resources to be found on Youtube, the challenges facing Indian producers, the development of a distinctive Indian sound, as well as his time spent in Berlin as part of the Border Movement Residency (BMR) program. 

This is a great conversation with a big talent operating in a difficult environment. Get involved! 

Check out El Sid mixes on Soundcloud. 

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00:00 Intro

03:10 FILM

06:11 From pro-gamer to promoter

08:30 The "No more parties in Delhi" experiment

11:45 Learning Music Theory mid-Career

15:45 AI Slop and the value of human emotion

17:54 The cultural necessity of sampling

22:00 Studio talk

27:00 The Berlin border movement residency

32:30 Post-COVID clubbing & Spotify fatigue

37:30 The corporatisation of Boiler Room

41:45 Forging an authentic Indian sound

49:10 The global hustle for Indian DJs

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Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Centre with two of the most important people in the contemporary techno scene in India. 

Kohra is a key figure in the modern iteration of techno in India. His label, Qilla Records, has been one of the most important outposts for Indian producers since 2011. And as a DJ, he has established himself as a similarly important voice across clubs and festivals both in India and on the global circuit. He's also a very interesting guy with a lot to say on the state of the scene right now, and also the history.

We discuss the scene in India compared to Europe and the US, the development of techno culture in India, the advance of western dance music brands into Asia, today's challenges in running labels, and his history in different areas of music.

This conversation is a great insight into the workings of the scene in India... get involved!

Part II will air next week.

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00:00 Intro

02:45 Kohra

07:30 Local scenes

14:00 Western club brands in India

21:30 Politics and boycott culture

27:50 Kohra's journey into music

33:35 Production

42:08 Spending time in Melbourne

44:40 Jalebee Cartel

47:10 Running Qilla Records

53:30 Future of the scene in India

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