Did you know there were Muslims who fought on the side of the Anzacs in World War I, some even in Gallipoli? That ill-fated campaign has become a defining story of contemporary Australia, but we’re still learning new things about who was there and what that means for us. Also, meet the first ever Muslim to serve as a chaplain in the Australian Defence Force.

Dr Dzavid Haveric is an adjunct research fellow at the Centre for Islamic Studies and Civilisation, Charles Sturt university. He is the author of ANZAC Muslims: An untold story, and the forthcoming book, A history of Muslims in the Australian military from 1885-1945: Loyalty, patriotism and contribution, which unearths the tales of Muslim Australians who’ve served in the defence forces.

Imam Majidih Essa is the first permanent Muslim chaplain to the Australian Defence Forces. He serves with the Royal Australian Navy.

More info:

• Dzavid's book, A History of Muslims in the Australian Military from 1885 to 1945: Loyalty, Patriotism, Contribution is now available from Cambridge Scholars Publishing
• Hear more about Muslims from early colonial Australia on Soul Search: The Muslim Cameleers: The lives and legacies of Australia's little-known outback pioneers
• Mentioned in this episode is The Minefield: Do we know what the result of the Voice referendum means?