I started a threadapalooza on natural law, Kave responded with some thoughts on natural law conflicting with itself, and now I have recorded some thoughts on what I think natural law means and why I think it doesn't. All of this is quite inspired by what David Friedman wrote on property rights.

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In this episode I try to talk though one of my top go-to frameworks for thinking through what to do when my kids are doing stuff that doesn’t work for me, or them, or the family.

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It was great having Shea back on to finish up our conversation from the other week! We talked somewhat more about the Less Wrong rationality stuff, and also hit some other topics like Shea’s issues with libertarians, why he’s against altruism, how consciousness works, and what he thinks about LLMs.

He mentioned two books, The Ominous Parallels and The Open Society and Its Enemies.

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This podcast came out of a twitter conversation Ruth and I had, and we ended up comparing notes about a lot of our parenting tactics and approaches, including how to not be too stressed while having kids.

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I was going to record with a guest today, but we ended up rescheduling, so instead I talked about some things I think about attachment theory and object permanence.

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When Emmett and Shea were disagreeing about the red pill blue pill twitter poll thing, I suggested that maybe they could have a voice conversation about it, and then we did!

I wouldn’t say we really resolved things, but as far as I can tell we had fun talking to each other for a few hours about stuff like:

* epistemology

* Objectivism

* how perception works

* the free energy principle

* how much framing effects matter

* things that would make us change our votes

* creating new property rights

* etc

Hope you enjoy if you listen!

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Here’s the original poll:

Poll question from my 12yo: Everyone responding to this poll chooses between a blue pill or red pill.

* if > 50% of ppl choose blue pill, everyone lives

* if not, red pills live and blue pills die

Which do you choose?

The original plan was to talk to Emmett Shear about it, but he ended up being late, so first we talked to each other. This is not the promised second half to the Shea episode! That is still coming at some point.

I’m going to post the followup to this where we talk to Emmett next.

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Jonah and I talked a bunch about developmental models, especially Susan Loevinger’s, using AI to do research about those models, what interests Jonah in studying them, and how it may make sense to think of LLMs in terms of developmental stages.

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I recorded a short episode with just me with a bit of a rant about how I think about the “does intrinsic motivation drive out extrinsic motivation” parenting discourse.

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My guest today canceled (for a great reason), so I talked about some stuff that’s been on my mind lately, including:

* how I have been feeling about the election

* a couple of more predictions

* a little about what I’ve been reading

* how I’m relating to having young kids these days

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