In episode 69, Chris and Emma talked with Lian Brook-Tyler, shamanic healer, teacher of unity, podcaster, and co-founder of the Be Mythical podcast. In this rich and wide-ranging conversation, we dive into the intersections of mysticism, neurodivergence, spirituality, transformation, and awakenings—connecting these profound experiences to Dabrowski’s theory of positive disintegration.

We explore:

* How neurodivergence can shape mystical and spiritual experiences.

* The connection between shamanic practices, inner work, and positive disintegration.

* The importance of doing the work of inner transformation and embracing the unknown.

* The parallels between psychological and spiritual frameworks in understanding human development.

Lian’s mythical journey truly began when she was ruptured open to Spirit with the sudden death of her father—which led to her mysteriously recovering from 15 years of chronic pain, panic attacks and anxiety. That inexplicable transformation inspired her to leave a leadership role in the corporate world to immerse herself in discovering what creates pain and struggle, and conversely, how to create a life overflowing with love, magic, beauty and truth

Lian also shares how her work at Be Mythical, together with co-founder Jonathan Wilkinson, supports old souls and visionaries on initiatory journeys of self-discovery, using myth and ancient wisdom to find purpose and truth. Their work, Be Mythical, is an alchemy of ancient ways for modern days. It weaves together eclectic wisdom teachings and natural traditions such as rewilding, magic and animist spirituality, embodiment, and self-illumination into a soul-led, heart-centred, sovereign path of reclaiming your wildness, actualising your deepest gifts, to live fully and die complete.

Here is the Tree of Life image Lian discussed during the episode.

Links from this episode

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Be Mythical podcast

Be Mythical episodes we mentioned:

* “Over-excitability”: A more truthful and constructive perspective on neurodivergence? (episode with Chris)

* How to know if you're really "Doing The Work"? Sara J. Sanderson interviews Lian Brook-Tyler

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