Dennis visits the downtown L.A. headquarters of N2N Bodywear to talk to the man who founded the company 20 years ago Andrew Makay. Andrew talks about the turquoise bikini he bought in Acapulco that started it all, the swimwear/underwear fetish that inspired the company, the mistakes he made when he was starting out, Chinese counterfeiters who are ripping him off, going from a storefront in West Hollywood to an online operation, the chore of naming stuff, the items that have always sold well, shipping orders to army and navy bases, and getting gushing emails from straight wearers--and their wives. He also talks about getting kudos from gogo boys, the short shorts that turned them on as a teen and still do today, why he hasn't jumped on the assless underwear trend, the fun of fashion shows and the power of Instagram. Other topics include: the mid-90's Xanadu party where Andrew and Dennis first met, his dream of being an innkeeper, his Broadway musical past, how he'd do on Project Runway, the farmer in the slingshot and how Cheyenne Jackson got it wrong. www.n2nbodywear.com