Before she became Lady London, Zaire Stewart was a fly toddler exploring New York City’s unique beauty culture. At just three years old, she was being carted to Dominican hair salons, getting her hair washed and pressed by the same women she still visits today. Her mother kept her dapper in DKNY and Moschino as they traveled between the Bronx and New Jersey. Greatly influenced by the beauty and brilliance of the women in her family, an aunt with an interest in global politics and anti-apartheid messaging recommended her name; it’s no wonder Lady London is such a cultural force. In 2018, Lady London developed an interest in music, built on a foundational love of literature from childhood to college. Lady London joined Naked Beauty to talk about how she discovered she had presence and how she wielded it into a nearly decade-long career and fanbase of more than a million people.

During our conversation, we talked about how she learned to maintain her composure as a public figure and how her confidence can’t be shaken by industry execs or online trolls. Lady London shares that her confidence was well earned, as it took her some time to accept that she could be beautiful and smart without downplaying one or the other. We get some tips on how to model that self-assurance during the Show & Tell portion of the show, when Lady London demonstrates how not to be baited. Of course, we learn all about her beauty rituals, tips, and favorite perfumes. We got other advice from Lady London, including how she mentors women coming into the industry behind her, and what she’s learned from the hip-hop legend pouring into her. Lady London is a creative force, poet, rapper, executive producer, mentor, and hobby enthusiast. As we learn in this interview, with Lady London, there is always more than meets the eye.

Tune in as we discuss:

(0:00) Welcome Lady London

(2:20) Growing Up Nerdy In The Bronx and New Jersey

(3:25) Her Early Style Icons

(4:20) New York Beauty Culture

(6:45) Growing Into Beauty

(8:55) Discovering That She Had Presence

(12:35) Show & Tell: Tips For Not Being Baited

(20:10) Her Beauty Routine

(21:15) Getting Protein As A Pescatarian

(24:30) Makeup Routine

(26:20) Hair Care & Health

(31:15) Rejecting Male Perspectives On Beauty

(34:45) Female Rap Friendships

(36:25) Her Approach To Mentorship

(38:20) Committing To Perseverance

(42:30) Self-Care Practices

(44:45) What's On The Horizon

(45:20) When Lady London Feels The Most Beautiful

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Products Mentioned:

Bio-Oil

Bond No. 9 New York Fragrance Tasting Collection

Parfums de Marly Delina Eau de Parfum

Maison Francis Kurkdjian Gentle Fluidity

Mind Games Perfumer Extraordinaire Discovery Set

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In the second half of my conversation with  Kevin "KevOnStage" and Melissa Fredericks, we talk about all the ways they take care of themselves and one another. We cover therapy and how a combination of individual and couples therapy has helped them thrive in this season of their marriage. Before the pair were beloved by millions, they were a young couple searching for good marriage advice. They took what they learned and shared it with other couples during local gatherings at a BBQ joint, hoping they would all stay together. Their approach to learning and teaching out loud has only grown as they share this information on their own podcasts, a New York Times best-selling book, and here on Naked Beauty.

During our conversation, we discuss how the pair manages to be open with their audiences while also setting firm boundaries. Kev and Melissa also open up about how they push one another to be their best selves, and explain why they’ll never be the other’s “yes man.” While talking about grieving his brother, Kev revealed that it was Melissa who pushed him to work through his grief onstage and using comedy. Melissa was sure that he could challenge his art and build something beautiful, and given the positive reception to his shows, she was absolutely right. 

Tune in as we discuss:

(0:00) Welcome Kev and Melissa

(1:05) Kev’s Skincare Routine

(3:45) Melissa’s Skincare Routine

(5:15) Melissa’s Monthly Facial Routine

(6:25) Why It’s Important To Discuss Their Relationship Publicly

(8:05) Setting Boundaries With The Public

(10:00) What Role Therapy Has Played In Their Lives

(12:00) On Choosing A Marriage Therapist

(17:30) Managing Grief Through Comedy

(20:05) How Melissa’s Support Influences Kev’s Comedy

(24:55) How They Practice Self-Care

(27:30) Melissa Rediscovering Literature

(29:50) When Does The Couple Feel Most Beautiful

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Products:

Dove Soap

La Roche-Posay Pure Vitamin C10 Serum

Murad Vita-C Glycolic Brightening Serum

Kennedy Ryan Novels

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   Kevin "KevOnStage" and Melissa Fredericks are the hardest-working couple in independent media. The pair has turned their natural humor and 20+ years of partnership and parenting into a creative empire. Military brats who spent their childhoods traveling the globe, the pair met in high school and quickly became friends. Both athletic and churchy, with a special love for FUBU, Kev and Melissa began dating and never looked back. Kev and Melissa joined Naked Beauty to talk about their early connection and how it has grown into the partnership loved by their audience of millions. During our conversation, we talked about what moving around so much taught them about adaptability and how it prepared them for the flexible creative careers they have now. We dived deep into 90s style, and what they remember most about their high school selves.  

No conversation with the Fredericks would be complete without hearing them discuss their process for chasing their ambitions across the country. Trading in a stable life and career for an uncertain future is no easy task, but the pair reminds us that there is no reward without risk. Kev and Melissa walk us through the details of their journey to Los Angeles and how they decided together when and how to make the cross-country move. Clearly that choice was the correct one as they’ve built television shows, a media app, joint and separate podcasts, and creative content that is always flowing. We cover the most surprising accomplishments and how they celebrate every single win, despite their busy schedules. We even played a fun game of “guess that beauty product,” and learned that Kevin definitely pays attention to Melissa’s makeup routine. Kev and Melissa are incredibly funny and talented individuals, but together, they are powerful.

Tune in as we discuss:

(0:00) Welcome Kev and Melissa

(2:10) Growing Up Military Brats

(2:45) What Moving Around Taught Them About Adaptability

(4:40) Did They Feel Beautiful Growing Up

(6:40) Beauty Diversity In The 90s

(7:20) High School Sweetheart Style

(9:15) Melissa's Nostalgic Hairstyles

(10:20) Individual Style Metamorphosis

(12:50) What Attracted Them To One Another

(15:55) Making The Decision To Chase Their Dreams In L.A.

(20:10) The Accomplishments That Most Surprised Kevin

(22:35) Melissa's Accidental Influencer Path

(26:04) Celebrating Every Single Win

(28:45) The Benefits Of Not Being Recognized In L.A.

(32:30) Why Red Carpet Posing Is A Skill

(36:55) Show & Tell: Beauty Product Guessing Game

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Shan Boodram is a certified sex educator, board-certified sexologist, and the leading figure in a new kind of sexual education. Wielding an MS in Psychology and a longstanding curiosity, Shan helps people move towards greater intimacy between their partners and themselves. Born and raised in a predominantly white neighborhood in Canada, Shan’s initially poor experiences with sex led her to educate herself on how to prevent these kinds of experiences from occurring again. She built on this curiosity and self-education with professional training and a growing desire to build a new kind of sex ed. Shan joined Naked Beauty with her usual candor, granting us access to her personal experiences with desire, intimacy, sex, and pleasure. During our conversation, Shan made it clear that her goal isn’t just to get people talking about sex, but to take back their power from dominant narratives about sexual development and education to empower ourselves.

Shan walks us through how her loving relationship with her husband exposed her to unconditional love she didn’t realize she was missing. She offers couples tips on how to have a fruitful sex life while managing the responsibilities of long-term partnership, parenting, and the daily drudgery of life. We covered the more unpleasant side of relationships, like how couples can move away from resentment and towards repair. Shan also provided us with specific examples that we can employ immediately to have better sex with ourselves and our partners. Shan even offered a live demonstration of her favorite sex positions and toys that are sure to please. 

(0:00) Welcome Shan

(3:55) Navigating Beauty In Predominantly White Spaces

(6:55) Novels That Shaped Her Early Understanding Of Intimacy And Sex

(12:40) Masturbation & Self-Pleasure

(18:25) Her Favorite Sex Toys

(23:50) Tapping Back Into Self-Intimacy

(33:20) Shan's Pre-Intimacy Ritual

(40:00) Incompatible Sex Drives In Relationships

(41:25) Managing Her Shifting Sex Drive During Pregnancy

(42:50) Conversations Couples Should Have About Sex

(45:25) Moving From Resentment To Repair

(48:20) Lightning Round: Easy Sexual Upgrades

(54:25) Show & Tell: Sexual Positions Demonstration

(01:05:57) When Shan Feels The Most Beautiful

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Dr. Poucher All Over Balm

FENTY Beauty Hydra Vizor Sunscreen

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Kayla Nicole began training in gymnastics at only 5 years old. What started as fun and playful sessions quickly developed into a disciplined regimen of focus. She learned all about the type of commitment it takes to become a competitive athlete by focusing on diet, exercise, and training. She used that early dedication to carry herself through Pepperdine University's prestigious broadcast journalism degree program and into a massive media career that spans genres. Her early media icons were leading ladies in everyone’s favorite romcoms, including the Toni Braxton, with whom she had a chance to perform. These moments aren’t serendipitous; they are the culmination of Kayla’s incredible use of social media to show people her personality and well of talent. 

Kayla always knew that she belonged in front of the camera, helping people tell their stories. She got practice in both, working in retail and modeling in L.A. During our conversation, we talked all about her incredible discipline and how it informs everything from her daily workouts to her pursuit of media success. We also chat about what it was like growing up in a family of women, headed by a glamorous matriarch who believes in self-care. We discuss the alluring red carpet events and how support from a therapist helped her surmount a season of depression. Our conversation is candid and funny, and it mirrors the Kayla Nicole her audience has grown to love.

Tune in as we discuss:

(0:00) Welcome Kayla

(7:40) Kayla’s Gym Routine

(11:35) Early Beauty Icons

(12:55) Cosmetic Enhancements 

(16:20) Skincare Routine

(23:50) Haircare In The Gym 

(25:45) On Battling Clinical Depression

(31:25) Meeting & Performing With Toni Braxton

(38:20) Pre-Red Carpet Beauty & Style Prep

(40:30) Makeup Routine

(50:10) Making Friends As An Adult

(52:10) When Kayla Feels The Most Beautiful

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Products Mentioned:

Skincare:

ELEMIS Pro-Collagen Cleansing Balm

Kate Sommerville ExfoliKate Intensive Exfoliating Treatment Scrub

Rhode Glazing Milk

Sunday Riley C.E.O. Glow Face Oil

Summer Fridays Jet Leg Mask Moisturizer

Makeup:

Anastasia Beverly Hills Perfect Eyebrow Pencil

Born This Way Ethereal Light Smoothing Concealer

Laura Mercier Translucent Loose Setting Powder

Maybelline Master Precise All Day Liquid Eyeliner Makeup

Danessa Myricks Yummy Skin Blurring Balm Powder

Danessa Myricks Yummy Skin Water Powder Serum

DIOR Forever No-Transfer 24H Wear Matte Foundation 

Makeup Forever Limitless Brown Lip Liner

FENTY Beauty Gloss Bomb Heat Volumizing Lip Gloss

Jackie Aina Forvr Mood “She Was Here” Eau de Parfum

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Toni Bravo is the CEO of Blush and an influencer powerhouse. Based in Los Angeles, the California native has built a loyal community well into the millions because of her impeccable taste and advocacy for inclusivity in the beauty industry. Toni joined Naked Beauty to talk about her life before a viral blush try-on video changed everything. She shared what it was like to grow up as a fraternal twin in the sunny and very diverse Long Beach. We talked about her early forays into filming and editing herself and her family at just nine years old, simply for the love of storytelling. She detailed how influential the women in her life were to shaping the way she saw the beauty in herself and the world around her. It’s precisely this love of telling intimate stories that have shaped her POV into the one beloved by so many. 

Toni doesn’t hold back when it comes to the realities of being a successful and full-time content creator, especially when advocating for dark-skinned Black women’s access to high-quality beauty. I was very interested to learn how she maintains strong brand relationships without compromising the truth about product efficacy. She details the commitment and self-trust one has to have to succeed, because your point of view is everything. During our conversation, Toni talked about her interest in product development and why she isn’t limiting herself in anything. Toni also blessed us with a quick tour of her favorite products, from skincare, to haircare, and of course blush! We covered her recent Architectural Digest feature and the intentional design choices that went into making her home, hers.  

Tune in as we discuss:

(0:00) Welcome Toni

(2:15) Growing Up A California Girl 

(8:01) What It Takes To Be  A Content Creator

(10:30) Dealing With Being Recognized In Public

(12:30) The Mental Toll Of Seeing Yourself All The Time

(17:18) What Her Rare Beauty Internship Taught Her

(25:22) Her Top Five Favorite Blushes

(28:40) Toni’s Go-To Lip Combo Tutorial

(37:50) Building Her Dream Home

(39:15) Her Beauty Inspirations

(40:00) Toni's Aunt is Grace Jones

(43:12) Favorite Skincare, Haircare, and Beauty Products

(46:42) When Toni Feels The Most Beautiful

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Products Mentioned:

Blush:

Tower28 Downtown Dauqiri 

Tower28 Sunset Shirley

Danesssa Myrick’s Primadonna

Rhode Date Cake

Rhode Sun Soak

NARS Exhibit A

HAUS Labs Acai Sky

HAUS Labs Glassy Tangelo

NYX Buttermelt 

Milani Baked Blush 

Lip Products:

Benefit Dark Cherry Lip Stain

Summer Fridays Lip Stain

Marviano Brick Mocha

RHODE Toast

Wallace Daisy Pink Lipgloss 

Skincare:

The Outset Gentle Micellar Antioxidant Cleanser

Tower28 SOS Gel Cleanser

Prequel Facial Gleanser Cleanser

Panoxyl 4% Cleanser

Rhode Caffeine Reset Mask

Perfume:

Balmain Rouge

Orabella Salted Muse

Orabella Eternal 

Clothing:

Damson Mader Striped Pajamas

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Nour Tayara joined us to talk about his innovative and 100% plastic-free beauty brand, AORA. Before he became a co-founder and CEO, Nour was learning about the power of beauty culture to connect and spark conversation among his community in Beirut. During our conversation, he shared how he found his place in Lebanon’s underground queer scene and shaped his life’s motto to be kind and engaging to everyone, wherever you are. We talk about how Nour supplemented his scholarship by taking guerrilla marketing jobs and how they changed his mind about his electrical engineering major. Nour explains how an incredibly high test score landed him an internship and ultimately a full-time role at L'Oréal, where he worked for 13 years. We cover how, in those 13 years, Nour learned the good, the bad, and the ugly about what it takes to run a legacy beauty brand.

As Nour’s role and responsibilities evolved, he learned more about the waste and overconsumption plaguing the industry. Always prepared to innovate, he pitched a plastic-free brand to his management, which was promptly rejected. While reeling from a series of difficult events, Nour shared that a four-month break in Mexico City ultimately led him to his co-founder. The pair were aligned on building a brand that celebrates Mexican culture and is 100% plastic-free. Join us for an incredible conversation about what happens when you stay open to possibilities for your future and your principles are immovable. Nour details what it means to him to bring color to the clean beauty movement, why Mexico has always been a lifeline, and what it feels like to disrupt an industry. 

Tune in as we discuss:

(0:00) Welcome Nour

(2:10) Why Beirut Has An Incredible Beauty Culture

(4:45) Middle Eastern Grooming for Men

(11:27) Nour’s Accidental Start At L’Oreal

(22:30) Buzzword or Buzzworthy In Clean Beauty

(33:00) What It Really Means To Be Plastic Free

(41:30) Exclusive News: AORA Beauty Is Launching On Sephora.com 

(45:13) Why We Should All Be Reaching For More Color

(46:10) Top Three Must-Visit Locations in Mexico City

(49:30) AORA Makeup Being Used For Bad Bunny’s Halftime Show

(53:55) How Bad Bunny Upends Machismo Culture

(55:35) The Future Of The Beauty Industry

(01:05:30) Easy Lifestyle Upgrades

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Products Mentioned:

Moma design store lamp

Sophie Pavitt Mandelic Cleansing Serum

Sophie Pavitt Screentime Sunscreen

Dieux Forever Eye Mask

Dieux Deliverance 3-in-1 Serum

Dr. Idriss Major Fade Disco Block Sunscreen

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Dr. Carl Truesdale joins Naked Beauty to talk about how he became the go-to plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills. During our conversation Dr. Truesdale shared how his scientist and artist parents influenced his early interests, and ultimately his career. As a child he was a science nerd who attended science camp, and a gifted portrait artist. He was always interested in finding the beauty in people’s faces, an interest that would never leave him. While in medical school, Dr. Truesdale was faced with more limited perspectives on beauty and technique that prioritized Eurocentric features. Dr. Truesdale shared with us that he made it his mission to challenge these dated perspectives and provide his clients of color with high quality service that does not fundamentally change what they look like, and ultimately, who they are.

Dr. Truesdale is best known for his natural-looking procedures, especially deep plane face lifts, but our conversation covers many procedures. We get the scoop on facelifts filler, buccal fat removal, fat transfers, rhinoplasty, lip lifts and more. Dr. Truesdale generously explains how many of these procedures work, and what he takes into account before agreeing to perform them on his patients. We also talk about his interest in social media, and why dispelling disinformation online about medicine and science is so important to him. We also discuss the treatments he dislikes, when he’ll reject patient requests, and the signs that tell him a patient should be recommended to therapeutic services pre-treatment. Dr.Truesdale has changed his industry and we are so excited for you to hear how he changed what was possible in his field. 

Tune in as we discuss:

(3:45) Growing Up A Science Nerd

(5:05) His Background As A Portrait Artist

(6:20) How He Saw Himself Growing Up

(7:25) Challenging Norms About What It Means To Be Beautiful

(8:50) How Plastic Surgery Helps People

(9:45) The Privilege Of This Work

(10:55) How Aging Changes Our Faces

(11:35) If The Collagen Hype Is Legitimate

(13:15) Aging More Rapidly At Certain Periods In Our Lives

(15:15) What A Deep Plane Facelift Entails

(16:40) Why Lip Lifts Are So Interesting

(19:50) Avoiding Overfilling and Over-Injecting

(21:00) Thoughts On The Lack Of Integrity In The Plastic Surgery Industry

(22:25) The Rising Popularity of Blepharoplasty

(23:50) The Value Of Buccal Fat Removal

(25:55) Why Fat Transfers Are The BBL of The Face 

(27:00) Fat Transfer Under The Eye Versus Filler

(27:30) How Long Filler Can Actually Last

(28:35) Lower Face Jowling

(29:39) Why He Doesn’t Love KYBELLA

(30:05) Why Brow Lifts Are Effective Procedures

(31:17) How Rapid Weight Loss Affects The Face

(36:20) Unlearning Eurocentric Teaching Models

(36:45) Why He’s Vocal On Social Media

(38:25) Procedures He May Get Done One Day

(39:25) Thoughts On Ethnic Rhinoplasty

(41:08) The Best Way To Determine How We’ll Look As We Age

(42:15) Red Flags From Patients

(46:10) Advice to Upcoming Plastic Surgeons

(47:15) Self-Care and Gratitude Practice

(50:15) When He Feels Most Beautiful 

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Some creatives are truly in a league of their own and this guest has always stood out as someone pushing aesthetic boundaries all while being incredibly thoughtful. Artist, singer, designer, muse, creative director, and Tumblr icon KESH has never been too interested in adhering to the typical standards of beauty. She effortlessly rocks red eyeliner and gemstones on her nose, treating her face as a canvas for true self-expression. This level of “divine creativity” as KESH puts it, is what made me - along with so many others - fall in love with her. From spray painting the back of her classmates’ uniforms in Croydon, to collaborating with American Apparel, to creative directing a Good American shoot with TLC, tune in as we discuss KESH’s creative journey, inspirations, use of beauty as a form of armor and so much more. Enjoy! 

Links to Products/Resources Mentioned: Simi Haze Eye Gems, Lady Vengeance (2005), TLC for Good American (directed by KESH) 

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Hope Giselle joins us to talk about her incredible journey to becoming a sought-after activist and speaker. Hope began her advocacy work fighting for inclusion and access for herself as an undergraduate at Alabama A&M University. Hope founded the university’s first LGBTQ+ organization and later became the first openly trans woman to earn a Master of Fine Arts from the university. She has since built a decade-long career as an activist, author, speaker, and nonprofit founder (AllowMe). Hope has proven that nothing is off limits to her, and she has committed her life’s work to ensuring the same for all others. During our conversation, we talked about the incredible life she’s built fighting against marginalization, and how she manages to look so good doing it.

During our conversation, Hope told us what it was like growing up in Miami and having others project their beliefs about her gender and sexuality onto her at five years old. We talked about how growing up surrounded by her stylish Caribbean family of Cuban and  Haitian descent shaped her ideas about femininity and womanhood. She shared that her journey of defining and redefining herself was difficult, but at 19, a video of Janet Mock opened up new possibilities for her life. Hope talked about the most eye-opening aspects of her transition, especially at an HBCU that skews conservative about gender and sexuality. We have an incredible conversation about why there is sometimes a struggle among cis women, with being in community with our trans sisters, and how we might overcome those barriers. Hope brilliantly outlines the dangers trans people face each day, and the tangible ways we can all fight transphobia and transmisia. Of course, there was beauty talk, about the ways that the LGBTQ+ community has shaped the beauty industry across time. She also gave us her entire skincare, body care, and makeup routines.

Tune in as we discuss:

(00:00) Welcome Hope Giselle

(4:35) What Being Caribbean Taught Hope About Gender Presentation

(8:15) Early Introduction To Definitions of Queerness and Gender Identity

(10:45) How Janet Mock Introduced Her To Transness

(17:45) The Struggles Of Being In Community With Cis Women

(26:10) Facing Violence After Being Outed

(30:40) What Keeps Her In The Professional Activism Space

(36:58) Why Hope Wants Accomplices, Not Allies

(40:55) How To Support Trans People In Your Everyday Life

(47:20) How Queer and Trans People Have Shaped The Beauty Industry

(47:35) Trans Icons Across Time

(55:35) Her Skincare Routine

(58:39) Her Bodycare Routine

(1:00:43) Favorite Makeup Products

(1:04:04) Her MAC Classics 

(1:05:49) Hair Journey

(1:12:15) When She Feels The Most Beautiful

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Products:

Face:

The Ordinary Granactive Retinoid 2% Emulsion

Salt Water Vanilla Body Butter

TIRTIR Ceramic Milk Ampoule

Drunk Elephant B-Hydra™ Intensive Hydration Serum with Hyaluronic Acid

Good Molecule Daily Moisturizer 

Olay Super Serum

Innisfree Green Tea Seed Hyaluronic Serum

Body:

Sol de Janeiro Limited Edition Cheirosa 71 *out of stock

Lush Golden Egg Glitter Mist Spray

Makeup:

TIRTIR Foundation

About Face The Performer Foundation

YSL Lipstick

ONE/SIZE Oil Sucker Spray

ONE/SIZE Powder Melt Glass Setting Spray

MAC Lip Pencil Chesnut

MAC Time Check Lotion

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